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Hi,

Just curious. Is this current roster the lowest showing of French Canadian players ever to play for Les Habitants?

I can only count 3: Lapierre, Laraque, Latendresse.

I realize time has changed, gone are the days of french superstars on the team like Plante, Richard, Béliveau, Lafluer, Lamaire, Cournoyer, Lapointe, S.Savard, Richer, C. Lemiuex, Turgeon, Roy, D. Savard, Mario Roberge.....

Feel free to add to my list of your favorite French Canadian HAB players of the past.

Here's looking at you kid - Louis Leblanc

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Mathieu Carle(i think)

Cedrick Desjardins(i think)

Dany Masse

Olivier Fortier

Mathieu Darche

Gabriel Dumont

None of the above will play for the Habs this year IMO..It almost seems that BG did what he did this season in spite of what the French Media have been harping on for quite some time

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Who cares? Most people in Quebec speak English anyway. I don't see why language matters...at all. It's not like they only speak Russian.

Exactly. Who cares?

You dont see people in Calgary getting all upset because there are so few Albertans on the team - heck most US based teams dont have more than a few americans, let alone players from that state.

Frankly, Im happy that current habs brass has enough guts to try to ice what they feel is the best team - regardless of their birthplace. Would I like to have players like Lecavalier or Bergeron or Gagne? Sure - but it sure isnt because of the language they speak or the province they were born in.

Its 2009 should this not be a moot point by now??

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Who cares?

Personally I dont care, but It's still an issue for many people in Quebec...Such as many ''reporters'' from RDS. <_<

The most important thing is to have a competiting and hard working team, whatever where the players are from.

Most people in Quebec speak English anyway.

I'm not sure... Good luck if you wanna be served in english somewhere else than in the big cities ;)

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Again I'll be the cynic whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Maybe it's 2009 and it's not right but the language factor, the Quebec factor, still has significance. The French fans want French players. It doesn't have to be the entire team but we can always use a few French Canadien players. There's nothing wrong with that, for a number of reasons. First, the french fans and media relate to french players more; they get more excited and pumped and less down on the team, and that's a good thing. Second, it adds to our identity, our position in sports and the hockey world in general; we are "Le Bleu, Blanc et Rouge", we are Les Canadiens, not the Canadians. Finally, there is the home town/home province effect which hopefully equates to the French players wanting to give everything for the fans and the team. If you believe that players like the Rocket, Boom Boom, Cournoyer, the Pocket Rocket, Lafleur, and others did not play harder because they were Quebec players playing in front of Quebec fans, you are dead wrong.

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Again I'll be the cynic whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Maybe it's 2009 and it's not right but the language factor, the Quebec factor, still has significance. The French fans want French players. It doesn't have to be the entire team but we can always use a few French Canadien players. There's nothing wrong with that, for a number of reasons. First, the french fans and media relate to french players more; they get more excited and pumped and less down on the team, and that's a good thing. Second, it adds to our identity, our position in sports and the hockey world in general; we are "Le Bleu, Blanc et Rouge", we are Les Canadiens, not the Canadians. Finally, there is the home town/home province effect which hopefully equates to the French players wanting to give everything for the fans and the team. If you believe that players like the Rocket, Boom Boom, Cournoyer, the Pocket Rocket, Lafleur, and others did not play harder because they were Quebec players playing in front of Quebec fans, you are dead wrong.

If the team succeeds, only the idiots in the French media continue to complain about a lack of French-Canadian players on the team. It's only when they falter that people start looking for excuses, and moan about stupid things such as the ethnicity of the players. I'd rather build a team using the best players available, as opposed to what the fans and media think should constitute the roster.

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**Sigh** I can't believe this is even a thread...This is why MTL has the roughest fans to deal with...It shouldn't matter where the players are from...What SHOULD matter is where they'll lead us...And looking at the players brought in, I think this team can go deeper in the playoffs than any other previous team post Patrick Roy era.

Another thing that bothers me is how people are harping on size...Gionta, Camelleri and Gomez are all bonafide scoring line NHL players...That is what's MOST important. Let these players at least play some games together before we decide they're pieces of crap and Gainey's an idiot, like most pundits are already coming to the conclusion of.

People are going to have to learn to deal with the folowing facts: Beyond Hossa (who signed a ridiculous deal with Chicago); and the Sedins (Who had no intentions of leaving Vancouver); the next best scoring forward available was Mike Camalleri...And Bob Gainey landed him and made over the entire team, I feel for the better...Size and nationality be damned, this team is better equipped to compete in both regular and post season.

The days of Rocket Richard and Jean Beliveau ended many moons ago and until we move on from that point, this team will continue to struggle not only with identity, but with it's ability to win as well...This team finally has some NHL calibre winners and I for one am looking FORWARD in every sense of the word.

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I think we have more Italians than French - Pacioretty, D'Agostini, Gionta, Camillieri...... :lol:

That works for me....whistling the Tarantella..........

I remember in 93 when we won the Cup on an episode of Coaches Corner Don Cherry was making a point about how at that time we had more Candians on our team than anyone and that is one of the reason why we were winning....not saying I agree...just pointing it out.....

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IN THE OLDER DAYS THE FRENCH PLAYERS WHO WOULD PLAY FOR US WOULD BE REALLY GOOD AT THEIR POSITION, NOW A DAYS THERE ARE STILL PLAYERS LIKE LECAVALIER, ST. LOUIS, GAGNE, BRIERE, BERGERON OUT THERE BUT THE PLAYERS THAT THE HABS HAVE ARENT THAT GOOD, THEY ARENT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING CONSIDERED AS GOOD PLAYERS. I HAVE A FEELING THAT THEY WERE ONLY PLAYING FOR THE HABS CAUSE THEY WERE FRENCH AND THAT THE HABS WANT TO KEEP THE FRENCH PRIDE IN THE TEAM, IF WE GOTTA DO THAT I'D RATHER CREATE A QUEBEC TEAM AND PUT THEM ALL IN THERE. PEOPLE LIKE BRISEBOIS, LARAQUE AND OTHERS SHOULDNT EVEN HAVE BEEN IN THE TEAM FIRST OFF. I LIKE WHAT GAINEY IS DOING TO THE TEAM, I DONT HAVE NOTHING AGAINST QUBECOIS CAUSE I AM FROM QUEBEC AND I LOVE ALOT OF QUEBECOIS PLAYERS, I JUST HATE THE FACT THAT THE HABS STORE ALL THE NON-SKILLED QUEBECORS IN THE TEAM.! THATS JUST MY OPINION...

VIVE LES CANADIENS!!!!

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the most important thing is that the Canadiens WIN. now they haven't been winning much lately, so many feel we need Quebecois players, and if they help us win, i agree.

but when they went for Briere, he wanted no part of the team, and went to Philly. even Lecavalier didn't seem too interested in being traded here last season before his no trade clause kicked in. it is possible Quebecois players don't want to come here seeing as they will either be the hero or the goat, most likely revolving titles on a game to game basis, and feel there will be too much pressure.

if that pressure disappears, then maybe the Canadiens can attract higher quality Quebecois players.

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IN THE OLDER DAYS THE FRENCH PLAYERS WHO WOULD PLAY FOR US WOULD BE REALLY GOOD AT THEIR POSITION, NOW A DAYS THERE ARE STILL PLAYERS LIKE LECAVALIER, ST. LOUIS, GAGNE, BRIERE, BERGERON OUT THERE BUT THE PLAYERS THAT THE HABS HAVE ARENT THAT GOOD, THEY ARENT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING CONSIDERED AS GOOD PLAYERS. I HAVE A FEELING THAT THEY WERE ONLY PLAYING FOR THE HABS CAUSE THEY WERE FRENCH AND THAT THE HABS WANT TO KEEP THE FRENCH PRIDE IN THE TEAM, IF WE GOTTA DO THAT I'D RATHER CREATE A QUEBEC TEAM AND PUT THEM ALL IN THERE. PEOPLE LIKE BRISEBOIS, LARAQUE AND OTHERS SHOULDNT EVEN HAVE BEEN IN THE TEAM FIRST OFF. I LIKE WHAT GAINEY IS DOING TO THE TEAM, I DONT HAVE NOTHING AGAINST QUBECOIS CAUSE I AM FROM QUEBEC AND I LOVE ALOT OF QUEBECOIS PLAYERS, I JUST HATE THE FACT THAT THE HABS STORE ALL THE NON-SKILLED QUEBECORS IN THE TEAM.! THATS JUST MY OPINION...

VIVE LES CANADIENS!!!!

Patrice Bergeron probably wouldn't want to be a Hab, since he was a Nordiques fan growing up.

I don't know why everyone's wondering why language matters. It's not the language, it's where they're from. I love having home town Leaf players (yes, I'm a Leafs fan). Matt Stajan has always been my favorite, and having guys from Southern Ontario like Matt Stajan, Tie Domi, Curtis Joseph, Doug Gilmour, Gary Roberts, etc is always great. I love to see guys who grow up wanting to be a Leaf getting to play in Toronto. I don't know why Quebecois wouldn't want the same... besides, I've always loved Martin St Louis and Simon Gagne.. knowing Philly's cap situation, if I was Bob Gainey I would've gone after that... of course, if I was Brian Burke, Ken Holland or Glenn Sather I would've gone after that. Did I mention Simon Gagne is awesome?

Anyways, having home town players is always really cool. By the by, Calgary has six Albertans.

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the most important thing is that the Canadiens WIN. now they haven't been winning much lately, so many feel we need Quebecois players, and if they help us win, i agree.

but when they went for Briere, he wanted no part of the team, and went to Philly. even Lecavalier didn't seem too interested in being traded here last season before his no trade clause kicked in. it is possible Quebecois players don't want to come here seeing as they will either be the hero or the goat, most likely revolving titles on a game to game basis, and feel there will be too much pressure.

if that pressure disappears, then maybe the Canadiens can attract higher quality Quebecois players.

There needs to be pressure. Whenever I hear of a guy (*cough* Nash *cough* Lecavalier) who sign long term deals in nothing markets when they know they could get as much money with their home town teams in Canada, that shows a lack of character. They don't have the balls to deal with the media. Rick Nash lives in Toronto in the off-season, it can't be the city, Columbus has sucked for years, so it can't be the organization. Toronto has $25 million coming off the books next summer, so it can't be the money. He got scared at the idea of the Toronto media, and Vincent Lecavalier did the exact same thing when re-signing in Tampa. If they had any balls, we'd be watching Nash and Lecavalier duke it out in the greatest rivalry in hockey.

I have more respect for guys like Komisarek, Kessel, Cammalleri, Gomez, etc who sign somewhere BECAUSE of the pressure and expectations.

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There needs to be pressure. Whenever I hear of a guy (*cough* Nash *cough* Lecavalier) who sign long term deals in nothing markets when they know they could get as much money with their home town teams in Canada, that shows a lack of character. They don't have the balls to deal with the media. Rick Nash lives in Toronto in the off-season, it can't be the city, Columbus has sucked for years, so it can't be the organization. Toronto has $25 million coming off the books next summer, so it can't be the money. He got scared at the idea of the Toronto media, and Vincent Lecavalier did the exact same thing when re-signing in Tampa. If they had any balls, we'd be watching Nash and Lecavalier duke it out in the greatest rivalry in hockey.

I have more respect for guys like Komisarek, Kessel, Cammalleri, Gomez, etc who sign somewhere BECAUSE of the pressure and expectations.

Well said...I will gladly quote this for truth...And I agree, I have much more respect for the guys we've acquired because they know full well that they're walking into a pressure cooker, that is still reeling from one of it's most disappointing season's in the club's 100-year history...And yet they still gladly signed and welcomed the forthcoming pressure of both the media and fan expectations.

There have certainly been mixed reviews of the changes made by Bob Gainey...I've believed all along that Gainey has made over the team for the better...We have a better calibre of player overall (No disrespect intended to the players who left)...And we have a better chance of going further in the play-offs with the quality of the players we've signed.

I said this in a previous post and I will say it again to re-assert my position: I do not care where the players are from, I only care where they take us...And as I see it, the players we've acquired reguardless of origin, can better take us to the cup than the players we had before...As far as Quebecquois players go...The Cup gets awarded to the best TEAM, not the best collection of Francophones.

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