ChiLla Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 No way am I giving up on the season.As good as Markov is,he's not as great as people make him out to be.If one player's injury is going to cost us the season,then we weren't much of a team to begin with I'm not ready to give up the season either but you can pretty much take any team in the league minus their No1 Dman that happens to anchor their PP and what you've got is trouble. Try Washington without Greene, Boston without Chara, Chicago without Campbell or Vancouver without Bieksa. The Penguins wouldn't have made the playoffs last year after losing Gonchar IMO, if it wasn't for the fact that they have the two best centers in hockey on their roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 This sucks, however, we can't let it become an excuse for the season. No single injury should completely derail a team. Of course, we will be weaker without Markov. But if we miss the playoffs because of a single injury, we wouldn't have done anything there anyways. No matter how good the player, every team needs to be able to manage an injury. If your team is that fragile that all your hopes are in one player, you don't deserve the cup. All players face injuries, and in the playoffs our best dman could go down at any point. Our team needs to learn that they can win without Markov, now is a better time to learn that lesson than in March. If they can't win without him, our team was too weak to begin with. Good teams can win through adversity, will Montreal or will they just sit there feeling sorry for themselves? Best of luck getting better Andrei, we'll miss you and hope to see you back as soon as possible. But at the same time the team needs to move on and not just use this injury as an excuse to write off the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiprusoffk Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I don't care how "deep" our D is this year. Markov can not be replaced. That being said, barring another major injury????? we can still make the playoffs in the bottom seeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekHockeyCoach Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 We have (on paper) a much more well-rounded defense this year though. The question is going to be whether we can translate into wins. In my best Gerard Butler Impression: I remember in 2001-02 when everyone said "you wont make the playoffs- your best player (Koivu) is out for the season, maybe for ever (cancer)." Well, he came back for the final 3 games to find a team that managed to just squeak into the playoffs & then upset Boston in the first round. How did we do it that year? Well a fellow by the name of Jose won the Hart & Vezina. If we want to win this year, we're going to need other players to step up. Im not trying to put pressure on anyone, but maybe this is Carey's year to show he truly is a thoroughbred as Gainey called him. Perhaps guys like Gomez will break 90 points & live up to his contract - or Gionta will show 48 goals wasn't an aberration & that he is worth every penny we signed him for. Maybe Obyrne & Gorges will show they are much more than 3rd pairing dmen, maybe AK and Pleks will have their 'breakout seasons." Maybe a young dman like Subban or Weber will come up & take the league by storm. As terrible as this (losing Markov) is, sometimes its these 'catastrophes' that push a team to do better. Lets hope the team comes together & makes it so. We are HABS! Thankfully, we have a great coach who will do everything he can to pick up the pieces & make this team work within a system. How refreshing it was last night to see our coach say "Well, we have things we have to work on and do better" after a WIN. Something we havent seen for a loooooooong time. A lot of "ifs" there bud but you're right. It is much different than last year. We do have a lot of character guys and our defense did get better (even though it didn't show last night). While Markov is irreplaceable at this stage, it might make everyone else work harder to compensate for the loss and that will work to our favour. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js2 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 So how many games should we expect to win during the next four months? 3, maybe 4 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 So how many games should we expect to win during the next four months? 3, maybe 4 games? We're Hab fans. We expect to win them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianMike Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY dear lord WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY????? wake me up from this nightmare. Everyone was so excited 24 hours ago for this fresh start NEW HABS era....NOT the way it should begin without our #1 man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubby31 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY dear lord WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY????? wake me up from this nightmare. Everyone was so excited 24 hours ago for this fresh start NEW HABS era....NOT the way it should begin without our #1 man. Holy smokes....just found out the baddddddddddddddddddddd news Great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddienmike Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 OH YE OF LITTLE FAITH Where are your hearts,of course its a setback to have Marky injured,but its not the end of the world, we still have a defence and a lot of guys with guts who want to come up and show their skill, O Byrne really did well last night he has size and guts, come its just one game there are another 81 to play lets worry about this after game 41, I really don't know how you can call yourselves fans when you have you have so little faith, WE ARE THE HABS doesn't that mean anything, we can do anything we can prevail other teams have done it in the past so have we so where is your faith come on GO HABS GO WE BELIEVE IN YOU :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSD Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 ok ok i know this isnt good news...but hell be back by december...also, we still managed 2 ppgs last night and i dont think markov factored in on either...we still have spacek, hammer, mara who can all pass and shoot the puck...the team still pulled out the win without him last night...unlike last years leafs game we were down 3-2 and came back to win 4-3 last night...lets not count the team out after one game...we'll be ok... ps. doesnt this clear the way for pk or weber...we'll be ok everyone we will be ok...onward...to game 82!!...only 81 more to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombiosis Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Man oh Man that is bad news... Unfortunately, without Markov our chances to make the playoffs are slim. Hopefully the "4 months" will miraculously be only 6 to 8 weeks... what a major bummer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssfffs Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I'm really sad to hear about this. This is disappointing news I believe in our team though. Markov was out but they stepped up and still won the game. We need Hamrlik back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid-Soldier Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 That's really bad news for us. I think we can manage, but the D is gonna have to really step up. Markov is no doubt our best D man, so this is quite a low blow at the beginning of the season. However, i'm glad its now and not closer to playoffs. Get better soon Andrei! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strollerhnjhjjhjkind Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Without Markov... Habs stats... look like... 4-19-2 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubby31 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 OH YE OF LITTLE FAITH Where are your hearts,of course its a setback to have Marky injured,but its not the end of the world, we still have a defence and a lot of guys with guts who want to come up and show their skill, O Byrne really did well last night he has size and guts, come its just one game there are another 81 to play lets worry about this after game 41, I really don't know how you can call yourselves fans when you have you have so little faith, WE ARE THE HABS doesn't that mean anything, we can do anything we can prevail other teams have done it in the past so have we so where is your faith come on GO HABS GO WE BELIEVE IN YOU This is bad news....period. Get healthy soon Markov....we need you back in the line-up....ASP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcammalleri Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Jorges will need to take Markov's role defensively. Weber on the PP. we'll need to play 7 blue liners to not expose Weber in defensive situations. Jorges-Spacek O'Byrne-Hamrlik Gill-Mara Weber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee-X Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I'm not ready to give up the season either but you can pretty much take any team in the league minus their No1 Dman that happens to anchor their PP and what you've got is trouble. Try Washington without Greene, Boston without Chara, Chicago without Campbell or Vancouver without Bieksa. The Penguins wouldn't have made the playoffs last year after losing Gonchar IMO, if it wasn't for the fact that they have the two best centers in hockey on their roster. It's funny you say that, as Bieksa missed 47 games last year with.... you guessed it, a calf laceration. Vancouver did great while he was gone... I seem to remember them winning like 10 in a row around Januray last year, didn't they? Anyways, Bieksa is no Markov, but last year's Canucks was an example of a team that most people thought was doomed at the beginning of the year. They came together with a lot of guys stepping up, which is what I hope we can do. If it's any small consolation, I can think of one (very) small postitive about Markie being out: it should help Canada out against the Russians in the Olympics. At the the same time though, I feel bad that Markov has to miss the Olympics... so maybe that's not even a positive after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefooligan5 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 This sucks, however, we can't let it become an excuse for the season. No single injury should completely derail a team. Of course, we will be weaker without Markov. But if we miss the playoffs because of a single injury, we wouldn't have done anything there anyways. No matter how good the player, every team needs to be able to manage an injury. If your team is that fragile that all your hopes are in one player, you don't deserve the cup. All players face injuries, and in the playoffs our best dman could go down at any point. Our team needs to learn that they can win without Markov, now is a better time to learn that lesson than in March. If they can't win without him, our team was too weak to begin with. Good teams can win through adversity, will Montreal or will they just sit there feeling sorry for themselves? Best of luck getting better Andrei, we'll miss you and hope to see you back as soon as possible. But at the same time the team needs to move on and not just use this injury as an excuse to write off the season. I agree in theory but look at what we're talking about here. The habs are a complete unknown at this point and time. They have a new coach with a brand new system and whole slew of new players so making predictions seems asinine. But based on the fact that we have some good players and that we'll actually have a system as opposed whatever it was carbo brought to eh table most people are predicting this team as being an 8th place team. I completely agree and if we didn't make the playoffs prior to markov's injury I wouldn't have been surprised either. It's a difficult thing to bring all these new guys together and with fingers crossed hope things work out. So if the team is actually an 8th place team and that team just lost their number 1 D-man who had the econd most points in the league among D-men last year, even a marginal change in the team's effectiveness will put them out of the playoffs what with the battle for 8th in the east being so tight. So we're not tnecessarily talking about a complete derailment (such as the detroit red wings missing the playoffs because they lost lidstrom) we're talking about losing a very good player's production on a middle of the road team. It will be next to impossible to make up for Markov's numbers. It'c completely rationale to expect this will have a negative effect on the team. But even when Markov returns who knows how effective he will be after 4 months of latency. Personally I wasn't expecting playoffs this season so I'm not too, too disappointed over the loss of Markov. Obviously I hope he makes a full recovery because the team needs him in the long run. But if anything I am sort of excited to see what the habs can learn accomplish in the wake of this loss. This may force them to come together more quickly and make them stronger in the for the end of the season. We'll just have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortwinkler Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Four months? He's certainly suffering a lot more injuries each season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habcore Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 :( is all I got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Four months? He's certainly suffering a lot more injuries each season. 1 very fluky injury this year, 1 last year on a questionable hit, played all 82 games in 07-08. Come on. This guy logs a ton of minutes in all situations and plays against the oppositions best players night in night out. He's had 2 injuries in last few years and this recent one was VERY fluky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefooligan5 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Four months? He's certainly suffering a lot more injuries each season. To be fair, the four months still only equals one injury. He's not awarded multiple injuries per month or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innis_Mor Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Just hoping to make the play-offs now ... and go from there .... Then again, the Habs won without him last night! Then again, they were playing the Laffs .... _____________ Drat and double drat. _____________ How do Hab players keep getting cut by skates (well, two now, anyways). _____________ Reports are two to four months. I like 2 best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiLla Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 It's funny you say that, as Bieksa missed 47 games last year with.... you guessed it, a calf laceration. Vancouver did great while he was gone... I seem to remember them winning like 10 in a row around Januray last year, didn't they? Anyways, Bieksa is no Markov, but last year's Canucks was an example of a team that most people thought was doomed at the beginning of the year. They came together with a lot of guys stepping up, which is what I hope we can do. If it's any small consolation, I can think of one (very) small postitive about Markie being out: it should help Canada out against the Russians in the Olympics. At the the same time though, I feel bad that Markov has to miss the Olympics... so maybe that's not even a positive after all Fair enough, the Canucks might not have been the ideal example. Or they're actually the perfect example to follow, depending on how you look at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee-X Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Fair enough, the Canucks might not have been the ideal example. Or they're actually the perfect example to follow, depending on how you look at it I'm going to go ahead and take the positive outlook... since i don't think I could handle the negative one right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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