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#46 - Andrei Kostitsyn 2009-10


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30+ goals this year, you wait. Out from under the shadow of Kovalev will emerge our new puckhandling guru: A.K.46!!!!

Yep, without Kovalev he really shines. Last season I believe he was over a point per game in the games he played away from Kovalev.

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Andrei's production is really going to depend on the ice time he gets as much as the quality of his linemates. Last season, he was even with Kostopoulos for even-strength ice time (!). If he earns a spot on the top line and Martin shows patience with him, I'll go out on a limb and say that 60 points is the bare minimum we should expect. However, if he winds up on the second line with Plekanec, he'll probably end up somewhere in the 50-60 point range.

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Andrei's production is really going to depend on the ice time he gets as much as the quality of his linemates. Last season, he was even with Kostopoulos for even-strength ice time (!). If he earns a spot on the top line and Martin shows patience with him, I'll go out on a limb and say that 60 points is the bare minimum we should expect. However, if he winds up on the second line with Plekanec, he'll probably end up somewhere in the 50-60 point range.

You realize that Cammalleri will probably play with Pleck? A Kost, Pleck and Cammaleri could be a very good line.

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Andrei's production is really going to depend on the ice time he gets as much as the quality of his linemates. Last season, he was even with Kostopoulos for even-strength ice time (!). If he earns a spot on the top line and Martin shows patience with him, I'll go out on a limb and say that 60 points is the bare minimum we should expect. However, if he winds up on the second line with Plekanec, he'll probably end up somewhere in the 50-60 point range.

I would agree with the above. With the right linemates, icetime & help from the new coach, I think 40 goals is not out of the question. He had a few absolutely dominant streches last year. Maybe this year he can find consistency.

I think Martin may be the key. Under him we saw Hossa, Havlat & others groomed into the players they are today. Martin has gained a reputation as a coach who can bring out the best in his youngsters. Lets hope that continues and applies not only to AK but also to guys like Patches, Dags & Lats.

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Andrei's production is really going to depend on the ice time he gets as much as the quality of his linemates. Last season, he was even with Kostopoulos for even-strength ice time (!). If he earns a spot on the top line and Martin shows patience with him, I'll go out on a limb and say that 60 points is the bare minimum we should expect. However, if he winds up on the second line with Plekanec, he'll probably end up somewhere in the 50-60 point range.

The big problem in terms of a potential AK bust out is the fact that he's rather unlikely to end up on the 1st PP unit. We know Cammalleri, Gomez and Markov are absolute first unit locks. As of right now, Spacek and Gionta have to be the front runners, Gionta is the right handed shot that everyone craves on the PP and he plays pretty well in front of the net.

I'm not saying Andrei shouldn't be on unit 1, just that I'd be surprised if he was and without the first unit I think he's going to be very hard pressed to break 55-60 points.

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You realize that Cammalleri will probably play with Pleck? A Kost, Pleck and Cammaleri could be a very good line.

What is your statement based on? I haven't heard anything about Cammalleri playing with Plekanec. I know Martin said a few things in July, but that's a long way from training camp. IMO it's silly to sign a stud like Cams and then play him with your second-line center, but that's just me. We'll see how things shake out.

I think Martin may be the key. Under him we saw Hossa, Havlat & others groomed into the players they are today. Martin has gained a reputation as a coach who can bring out the best in his youngsters. Lets hope that continues and applies not only to AK but also to guys like Patches, Dags & Lats.

I hope so. Martin did a good job with guys like Hossa who were willing to play a two-way game, but butted heads with more one-dimensional players like Spezza. Let's hope Andrei fits into the system.

The big problem in terms of a potential AK bust out is the fact that he's rather unlikely to end up on the 1st PP unit. We know Cammalleri, Gomez and Markov are absolute first unit locks. As of right now, Spacek and Gionta have to be the front runners, Gionta is the right handed shot that everyone craves on the PP and he plays pretty well in front of the net.

I'm not saying Andrei shouldn't be on unit 1, just that I'd be surprised if he was and without the first unit I think he's going to be very hard pressed to break 55-60 points.

Yeah, good point. I hadn't thought of that. To me, AK replaces Gionta on the first unit no question. Yes, he's a left-handed shot, but he's bigger, stronger, and showed in 07-08 that he can be very effective as a net presence on the power play.

If AK doesn't get the first-unit PP minutes, though, people need to temper their expectations in terms of his overall production, which probably won't exceed 55-60 points, as you noted.

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I think A.Kost can run a PP from the top of the circle, just like Kovy used to do. He's got magic hands, a good shot and has enough experience to really start dictating the play in their end. Cammalleri is our PP finisher (didnt he have almost 20 ppg's last year?) same with Spacek on the point. I think A.Kost will flourish this year into an all-round player.

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What is your statement based on? I haven't heard anything about Cammalleri playing with Plekanec. I know Martin said a few things in July, but that's a long way from training camp. IMO it's silly to sign a stud like Cams and then play him with your second-line center, but that's just me. We'll see how things shake out.

I hope so. Martin did a good job with guys like Hossa who were willing to play a two-way game, but butted heads with more one-dimensional players like Spezza. Let's hope Andrei fits into the system.

Yeah, good point. I hadn't thought of that. To me, AK replaces Gionta on the first unit no question. Yes, he's a left-handed shot, but he's bigger, stronger, and showed in 07-08 that he can be very effective as a net presence on the power play.

If AK doesn't get the first-unit PP minutes, though, people need to temper their expectations in terms of his overall production, which probably won't exceed 55-60 points, as you noted.

Martin said he intended to play Gomez and Gionta toguether, but not to play Cammalleri with them. Doesn't really matter if he said that in july, since it's all we got as of now, as for feedback from the coach. Yes he might change his mind, but it looks like he intends to start training camp and most likely the season, with Plecaneck centering Cammalleri.

And I think the logic is not to put all of our egs in the same basket and to have two scoring lines, instead of one. Way harder for the opposition to defend against that than an one-trick poney.

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Andrei has every reason to have a good season given the bag of tools he was born with.

But he may very well butt heads with Martin given his style doesn't really cater to a defense first mindset. I hope he mentally prepared himself well before the season starts to playing a system as opposed to this offensive laisser faire approach that Carbonneau liked to utilize. Who knows, for all we know this may be what Andrei actually needs.

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Yeah, good point. I hadn't thought of that. To me, AK replaces Gionta on the first unit no question. Yes, he's a left-handed shot, but he's bigger, stronger, and showed in 07-08 that he can be very effective as a net presence on the power play.

If AK doesn't get the first-unit PP minutes, though, people need to temper their expectations in terms of his overall production, which probably won't exceed 55-60 points, as you noted.

I would rather Andrei K too, but I just think it will be Gionta to start because he's a right handed shot. It's not like I don't think Gionta is capable but if it were up to me we'd forget about Gionta's past with Gomez and glue him and Plekanec together. Both good skaters, both solid 2 way players with good offensive abilities.

Andrei K should be with Gomez at all times IMO.

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What would be even more interestign is if Martin toyed with Akost on the point for the PP.

He needs to be first line LW or second line RW at the end of the day, and given the most opportunity to suceed behind Cammy.

Well if what Martin said is true, that both Cammalleri and Gionta will be playing RW this season then there's basically no chance Andrei plays on the right side, so he will likely be a LW.

I agree Andrei K would be quite interesting on the point but I think Martin plays things more by the book and we'll see a Markov - Spacek PP unit. If the PP is dreadful and we get desperate it may happen.

He's going to be a top 6 forward, there's no question. He'll either be 1st line LW or 2nd line LW.

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Well if what Martin said is true, that both Cammalleri and Gionta will be playing RW this season then there's basically no chance Andrei plays on the right side, so he will likely be a LW.

I agree Andrei K would be quite interesting on the point but I think Martin plays things more by the book and we'll see a Markov - Spacek PP unit. If the PP is dreadful and we get desperate it may happen.

He's going to be a top 6 forward, there's no question. He'll either be 1st line LW or 2nd line LW.

I forgot about Gionta, brain cramp.

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I forgot about Gionta, brain cramp.

Cammalleri has spent basically his whole wing career on the left side though, and I think the move to the right side would benefit Andrei more so I don't see why Martin doesn't try Cammalleri Gomez Andrei K.

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Cammalleri has spent basically his whole wing career on the left side though, and I think the move to the right side would benefit Andrei more so I don't see why Martin doesn't try Cammalleri Gomez Andrei K.

I know. I dont understand Martin's statement. I mean Cammy split his time in LA between being a centre and a left winger. he spent virtually his whole time in Calgary as a LW...why all of a sudden are we calling him a "natural RW"?

Is that because he was drafted as a RW? I mean Markov was drafted as a forward...is Martin going to move him back to forward? Very odd.

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Well if what Martin said is true, that both Cammalleri and Gionta will be playing RW this season then there's basically no chance Andrei plays on the right side, so he will likely be a LW.

I agree Andrei K would be quite interesting on the point but I think Martin plays things more by the book and we'll see a Markov - Spacek PP unit. If the PP is dreadful and we get desperate it may happen.

He's going to be a top 6 forward, there's no question. He'll either be 1st line LW or 2nd line LW.

I don't mean to sound lazy, but can you dig up an article that quotes Martin saying this? I've searched, and all I've been able to find is Cammy saying he expects to be playing on the left wing on Gomez's line (this was July 1st) once training camp starts. All I've heard on the situation is information from other peoples POV and paraphrased quotes, and don't feel comfortable discussing this situation without reading Martin's exact words.

If anyone has it, then it would be helpful, as someone has told me that Martin didn't say that Cammy would necessarily be playing on the right wing.

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I don't mean to sound lazy, but can you dig up an article that quotes Martin saying this? I've searched, and all I've been able to find is Cammy saying he expects to be playing on the left wing on Gomez's line (this was July 1st) once training camp starts. All I've heard on the situation is information from other peoples POV and paraphrased quotes, and don't feel comfortable discussing this situation without reading Martin's exact words.

If anyone has it, then it would be helpful, as someone has told me that Martin didn't say that Cammy would necessarily be playing on the right wing.

http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/277888.html

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