SteenIsThaFuture Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Yeah, Higgins will bounce back for sure after the horrible year he had and I believe he'll be a good fit for the Rangers. He's only signed for one year though, right? Might be difficult to sign him next year if he bounces back and scores 20+ again. As for Gaborik, well, I seriously don't know. The guy has had so many injuries in his career already, I'm just not convinced he's made for the NHL. Of course he's a game braker but what gives if he misses 30+ games every year or in a worst case scenario, he'll be out for the playoffs. The Gomez contract is a joke, no clue what Sather was thinking back then. He still is a very good player though and I believe he'll thrive under Martins. Maybe it's a win-win scenario for both teams, I guess only time will tell. Gaborik's fragility is overblown, in 8 seasons hes played 70+ games 4 times and 60+ games 6 times. 07 was bad and last year was horrible, but hes not the "Mr. Glass" everyone makes him out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catt-_mtlc Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 As a ranger fan, I disagree when you say you rather have Gomez over Gaborik. Marian is an elite player, a player who single handedly can win you a game and Gomez is not of that caliber. That said, I also was always a big fan of Gomez, and I thought he would have maybe broke out this year if he would have centered Gaborik. But after him failing to click with perhaps the greatest european to play the game (aka Jaromir Jagr) who knows. And since you would not have been able to get gaborik without giving up one of our big 4 contracts, than I cant have everything I wish for lol. Anyway I just didnt think anyone would have taken gomez's contract and when gainey did i was shocked. We also got a pretty good player back the other way in chris higgins who should score alot of goals under torts system. Well I'm sure you've seen him play more than I have. I remember seeing him play a few times when he was on the Devils and he fit right into the defensive style of play similar to what we'll be playing this season. Chemistry is everything in hockey, if playing with Jagr can't elevate your game play obviously something was wrong there. The fact is acquiring Gomez was the reason why we attracted the free agents we did. He can't be that bad if players signed here just because they wanted to play with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyfanusa Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 i agree with most of what everyone here is saying. scott gomez is a very good player and he DEFINITLY is a number 1 center in my opinion. to be honest i do not know what went wrong here in new york. i watch every single ranger game and on some nights gomer would look unstoppable out there with his dazzling puck handling skills and speed, then on some nights he would look horribly defensively and seemed like he was many times fighting a confidence issue. was it the insane contract he signed? was it the pressure of playing in ny? who knows, but he is a player that leaves a bit of a sour taste in my mouth because i know he could have been a way better ranger then he was. he was an underachieving ranger for sure, but so many are to be fair to gomer. as for gaborik, if healthy he will do wonders for the rangers. remember the rangers have been an extremly offensively challenged teams the past couple of seasons and if it wasnt for our elite goaltender........................................ Yeah, Higgins will bounce back for sure after the horrible year he had and I believe he'll be a good fit for the Rangers. He's only signed for one year though, right? Might be difficult to sign him next year if he bounces back and scores 20+ again. As for Gaborik, well, I seriously don't know. The guy has had so many injuries in his career already, I'm just not convinced he's made for the NHL. Of course he's a game braker but what gives if he misses 30+ games every year or in a worst case scenario, he'll be out for the playoffs. The Gomez contract is a joke, no clue what Sather was thinking back then. He still is a very good player though and I believe he'll thrive under Martins. Maybe it's a win-win scenario for both teams, I guess only time will tell. yes chris higgins signed only for one year so far. im hoping he has a great season and we resign him. chris higgins is a top 6 foward in my eyes and hopefully he shows it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King-of-Kings95 Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 GREAT FOR THE HABS! THEY SHOULD SIGN HIM IF HE ACCEPTS 3.5 MILLIONN AT THIS POINT GETTING RID OF HAMRLIK WOULD MAKE THE HABS FLEXIBLE AGAIN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catt-_mtlc Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 i agree with most of what everyone here is saying. scott gomez is a very good player and he DEFINITLY is a number 1 center in my opinion. to be honest i do not know what went wrong here in new york. i watch every single ranger game and on some nights gomer would look unstoppable out there with his dazzling puck handling skills and speed, then on some nights he would look horribly defensively and seemed like he was many times fighting a confidence issue. was it the insane contract he signed? was it the pressure of playing in ny? who knows, but he is a player that leaves a bit of a sour taste in my mouth because i know he could have been a way better ranger then he was. he was an underachieving ranger for sure, but so many are to be fair to gomer. as for gaborik, if healthy he will do wonders for the rangers. remember the rangers have been an extremly offensively challenged teams the past couple of seasons and if it wasnt for our elite goaltender........................................ I sure hope it wasn't the pressure because if he thought the pressure was intense in NYC he hasn't seen anything yet. Wait till the French media gets a hold of him if he doesn't produce. The huge contract probably had something to do with it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357908_1475251331 Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Id take Gomez over Gaborik, at the same price, any day of the year. Gomez has the potential to hit 80-90 points but on an off year should give you close to 70 even on an abysmal year this past season he scored almost 60. Gaborik may have the potential to hit 100 but is made of glass & you'd be lucky to get 40 games out of him. There's also been speculation that many times he's been "injured" he could have played hurt (ie. without further injury, just pain) and has chosen not to. Thats not something I particularly want in a player on my team. i'd just add the unsubstantiated rumor that naslund is going to modo- having left with a year on his contract. (?) the whole thing just points to some stress for the rangers that possibly could have been avoided, and to my mind will affect gaborik, and the team, and the ex-team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracie12 Posted August 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Gaborik's fragility is overblown, in 8 seasons hes played 70+ games 4 times and 60+ games 6 times. 07 was bad and last year was horrible, but hes not the "Mr. Glass" everyone makes him out to be. He played almost full seasons his first 3 years. In 03 or so, when he was given bigger minutes, his injury problems started. I remember fans/media in minnesota asking the staff whether it was better to "let him play less minutes & stay healthy, or play 1st line minutes & get injured all the time" After that point, he had only one mostly injury free year - (07-08) and put up good numbers. I dont think the moniker "made of glass" is unfair. Take away those first three years, when he was playing a lesser role he will NEVER get with a contract like he's just signed - and he's played 272 out of a possible 410 games. Thats anaverage of 54 games a season for the past 5 years. Pretty fragile if you ask me. I do wish him well, I just wouldnt be willing to take the risk on him for that kind of money with today's salary cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyfanusa Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 i agree the gaborik signing at that price is quite a risk, but it is a risk worth taking given that the team had absolutely no offense. if marian is healthy then lundqvist will not have to win every single game by a shutout or a score of 2-1. if it wasnt for that goaltender we have back there i dont know what would have been of that team last season and the year before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-K-46 Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 i think he'd look great with the caps ovie-bakstrom-semin zherdev-nylander-knuble pretty scary top 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracie12 Posted August 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 i agree the gaborik signing at that price is quite a risk, but it is a risk worth taking given that the team had absolutely no offense. if marian is healthy then lundqvist will not have to win every single game by a shutout or a score of 2-1. if it wasnt for that goaltender we have back there i dont know what would have been of that team last season and the year before. Based on the ranger's current roster, Gaborik, with his current deal, is likely a better risk than Gomez at his current deal. For the habs, its the opposite. Hopefully both will flourish in their new environments & do well. On the habs, I do think Gomez has good linemates to click with...on the Rags, Im not sure WHO gabby is going to feed from... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicalhab Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 i think he'd look great with the caps ovie-bakstrom-semin zherdev-nylander-knuble pretty scary top 6 Yes...so scary that it is not something to over!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsology Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Well, he's gone now...off to the KHL. Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babinator77 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Well, he's gone now...off to the KHL. Source no surprise there... i'm curious to see what they're paying him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Yeah, I am absolutely not surprised at all. I guess if that's what he wants to do, he's free to go there and play! A lot more respectable than the actions of Hudler and Radulov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsology Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Yeah, I am absolutely not surprised at all. I guess if that's what he wants to do, he's free to go there and play! A lot more respectable than the actions of Hudler and Radulov. Agreed, but it sucks to be losing such talents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Agreed, but it sucks to be losing such talents... There's plenty of talent left in the NHL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Anti-Senator Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 The KHL is forking out huge salaries in Yankee greenbacks while their gate receipts are in rubles. It is one big house of cards with no foundation. It is only a matter of time before the whole thing collapses under its own contradictions. Until that happens however, NHL teams are taking a huge risk drafting Russian prospects in the higher rounds. There are a great number of talented North Americans and Western Europeans that NHL teams should focus on in the higher rounds. From a Canadiens perspective, if they draft a Russian earlier than the 4th round in the coming years that prospect had better be NHL ready when they do so. Otherwise, in all likelihood it will be a wasted pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy-piton Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 zherdev has signed with yulaev salavat ufa (khl)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 zherdev has signed with yulaev salavat ufa (khl)! Figured this would happen. If this was July 1 he may have stayed in the NHL but with so many teams now done with their major spending this seemed like a foregone conclussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianMike Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Well, he's gone now...off to the KHL. Source noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracie12 Posted August 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Figured this would happen. If this was July 1 he may have stayed in the NHL but with so many teams now done with their major spending this seemed like a foregone conclussion. Im sure the rangers were banking on this. Let a player go & he heads off to sign in Russia - one thing. Let a player go & then he signs with a rival & has a great season - watch out for your fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteenIsThaFuture Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Zherdev signing false. http://www.beyondtheblueshirts.com/2009/08...h-the-khl-club/ John Glennon of The Tennessean spoke to Zherdev’s North American agent Rollie Hedges this evening, and Hedges confirmed that Zherdev has not signed anywhere. Glennon also confirmed with Nashville Predators general manager David Poile that he has been in touch with Zherdev’s agent. Other juicy quotes in the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialboyMikey Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 imagine radulov and zherdev together! thatd be lethal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianMike Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Zherdev signing false. http://www.beyondtheblueshirts.com/2009/08...h-the-khl-club/ John Glennon of The Tennessean spoke to Zherdev’s North American agent Rollie Hedges this evening, and Hedges confirmed that Zherdev has not signed anywhere. Glennon also confirmed with Nashville Predators general manager David Poile that he has been in touch with Zherdev’s agent. Other juicy quotes in the article. great news!! imagine radulov and zherdev together! thatd be lethal! even if Zherdev signs with Nashville (YAWN) Radulov isn't even there anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 "Zherdev to the Habs (E3)." Guaranteed... By tomorrow morning. Seriously though, Zherdev is an interesting talent. We really don't have enough cash to even consider him at this point, but he is a very interesting talent, none-the-less. I hope he stays in the NHL and has a good season just to show everyone that he does have the skill and work ethic to succeed in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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