babinator77 Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Well, there are two ways to look at it. He's way behind in his development given the amount of time he's been in the NHL or he's way ahead in his development given how young he was when he came into the league and his age presently (22). It's not like any other prospects of ours have "taken off" at that age either. Andrei Kostitsyn only managed to break-out after having 50-60 games on our 1st line in 2007-2008. I believe he was 23-24 at the time. I really do believe that Guillaume could have a great year if given the opportunity. 25 goals is not out of the question, if you ask me. again, fair enough and i hope you're right that, given the opportunity, he will perform up to his potential. personally, i've never really seen his potential to be a top-6 player, not even when he was one, but with a devastating season behind us and marked improvement in spurts last year, i hope your predictions come true. the problem i have with saying he's ahead of the curve given how young he was when he came into the league is that making the big club implies that you're already nhl ready - which clearly he wasn't. i suppose i can't blame him for the expectations that were placed on his shoulders much too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 again, fair enough and i hope you're right that, given the opportunity, he will perform up to his potential. personally, i've never really seen his potential to be a top-6 player, not even when he was one, but with a devastating season behind us and marked improvement in spurts last year, i hope your predictions come true. the problem i have with saying he's ahead of the curve given how young he was when he came into the league is that making the big club implies that you're already nhl ready - which clearly he wasn't. i suppose i can't blame him for the expectations that were placed on his shoulders much too early. I agree that he wasn't ready when he entered the league and that he should have been in Hamilton. However, what's done is done, I suppose. Anyway, if the debate remains Prospal hypothetically signing with Montreal and taking a top-6 spot away from a younger player I am saying "No way, Jose." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babinator77 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I agree that he wasn't ready when he entered the league and that he should have been in Hamilton. However, what's done is done, I suppose. Anyway, if the debate remains Prospal hypothetically signing with Montreal and taking a top-6 spot away from a younger player I am saying "No way, Jose." right. back on topic. i suppose it would be worth it to give lats his shot at the lw position (but isn't he a rw?) than to leave only cents in cap space. i just believe our team would be that much better with two solid top two lines...i can agree, however, that prospal isn't my ideal candidate but the dollars make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 right. back on topic. i suppose it would be worth it to give lats his shot at the lw position (but isn't he a rw?) than to leave only cents in cap space. i just believe our team would be that much better with two solid top two lines...i can agree, however, that prospal isn't my ideal candidate but the dollars make sense. I believe Gui is a LW. He played LW last season on a line with Lapierre and Kostopoulos. He also shoots left-handed, which more often than not (in North American, anyway) means he will be playing LW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babinator77 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I believe Gui is a LW. He played LW last season on a line with Lapierre and Kostopoulos. He also shoots left-handed, which more often than not (in North American, anyway) means he will be playing LW. that's what i thought too but i have a poor memory and most sites have him listed as a rw. maybe that explains his development issues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vive-latendresse Posted August 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Well Lats is a RW lol http://canadiens.nhl.com/team/app/l_fr?pag...mp;service=page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracie12 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Well Lats is a RW lol http://canadiens.nhl.com/team/app/l_fr?pag...mp;service=page Dont tell him then, as he spent most of last year playing on the LEFT side of Lapierre. Besides, LW, RW - its so moot these days. Cammy can play LW/RW/C A Kostitsyn can play LW/RW Gionta can play LW/RW I think thats why we're seeing wingers called "top 6 wingers" or "top 6 forwards" these days rather than the old school "left wing" leaving little movement in their position. If I were Bob Gainey/Jacques Martin I would start my year with the plan to play Gomez-Gionta-Cammy-AK-Pleks-Lats as my top 6. If this didnt seem to work after some games, i would look at moving around my roster a bit - and then - and only then - would I consider trading players. I appreciate that right now you can sign a guy like Prospal without having to give someone up, but to be honest, in today's cap based league, you're almost better off trading someone (and his salary) than just signing someone fresh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Yeah, can we drop the whole is Latendresse LW or RW thing? He shoots left, and thus, is more likely to play left wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren19 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 If I'm not mistaken, Prospal hasn't played center since he was in Ottawa...so we really don't need another winger...the bus is full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicochetII Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I just wanted to point out a couple of things in response to some posts in this thread. Prospal did not have a good year (for him) last season, but he isn't far removed from the more than adequate production of the previous season (70+ points in around 80 games if I remember correctly). Even at 40 points, for $2M or less, I don't consider that a bad investment. I would expect him to put up more along his Philly/Tampa numbers in a second line role, and if he does that at that price, that's a steal. If he picks up where he left off last season, it's perfectly acceptable, I just wouldn't want him to be our primary choice for the second line. Latendresse has been used as a left winger for too long for me to consider him a right winger, regardless of what he is listed as. I personally believe he "should" be lined up on the right wing and have been saying so since last season. Which wing he will end up on is up in the air, but if we are going to expect better production from him, I would prefer to see him on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habcup Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Why do we need another top-6 winger who is 1, 2 or 3 notches below elite level? There is currently one spot available for Pacioretty, Latendresse, D'Agostini and SKostitsyn to compete over, perhaps that is too much in Gainey's opinion. I totally agree. However, I think a little less of Prospal than you. Our rookies need a chance and I think they will likely play better that Prospeal would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jHABSxie12 Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 IMO, i think this rumour is the rumour thats most likely gonna to come true. Marleau is dropping, Frolov has been quiet for a while now, and Fernandez already denied the rumour in some other website. Plus, Prospal is not being offered by any other team, so i hope he jumps on the opportunity to become a HAB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habcup Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 IMO, i think this rumour is the rumour thats most likely gonna to come true. Marleau is dropping, Frolov has been quiet for a while now, and Fernandez already denied the rumour in some other website. Plus, Prospal is not being offered by any other team, so i hope he jumps on the opportunity to become a HAB. NNNOOOOOOO!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellows_mtl Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 IMO, i think this rumour is the rumour thats most likely gonna to come true. Marleau is dropping, Frolov has been quiet for a while now, and Fernandez already denied the rumour in some other website. Plus, Prospal is not being offered by any other team, so i hope he jumps on the opportunity to become a HAB. Since Gainey has been GM, I have never seen a rumor actually become reality. Gainey keeps his cards close to his chest and always seems to pull a trade that noone seen coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brysonom27 Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Since Gainey has been GM, I have never seen a rumor actually become reality. Gainey keeps his cards close to his chest and always seems to pull a trade that noone seen coming. Tanguay is the only one I can remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy4life_mtl Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 I totally agree. However, I think a little less of Prospal than you. Our rookies need a chance and I think they will likely play better that Prospeal would. I agrre aswell our rookies need the chance to play and i think that they have would have a longer future in montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB655 Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Since Gainey has been GM, I have never seen a rumor actually become reality. Gainey keeps his cards close to his chest and always seems to pull a trade that noone seen coming. Talking about cards, Gainey would be a great poker player: 1 - You never know what he's going to do! 2 - He's great at bluffing (Last year when he said his best move was Guy Carboneau and then he fired him ) 3 - He's a gambler (Gomez, Gionta,etc...) 4 - He seems innocent and not capable of many things but then he puts something on the table that nobody was even thinking about (This summer off-season... I remember everybody saying that Bob never makes big changes.) 5 - He has the face (No emotion at all!) PS: Sorry for my bad English guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiapo Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Talking about cards, Gainey would be a great poker player: 1 - You never know what he's going to do! 2 - He's great at bluffing (Last year when he said his best move was Guy Carboneau and then he fired him ) 3 - He's a gambler (Gomez, Gionta,etc...) 4 - He seems innocent and not capable of many things but then he puts something on the table that nobody was even thinking about (This summer off-season... I remember everybody saying that Bob never makes big changes.) 5 - He has the face (No emotion at all!) PS: Sorry for my bad English guys! Huh? Your English looks perfect... reading your post through my glasses. No need to apologize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsinottawa Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Since Gainey has been GM, I have never seen a rumor actually become reality. Gainey keeps his cards close to his chest and always seems to pull a trade that noone seen coming. A good example being Lang. What a gem he turned out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastian_mtl Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 PS: Sorry for my bad English guys! Yeah, looks good to me. I've seen MUCH worse on here!! Sometimes it's very frustrating, and painful to try and read. But hey, that's the joys of being a Montreal fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate-the-great_mtl Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 A good example being Lang. What a gem he turned out to be. Actually Lang turned out better than alot of us hoped for, then had his achilles cut in half, then bye bye, season went to crap after that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsinottawa Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Actually Lang turned out better than alot of us hoped for, then had his achilles cut in half, then bye bye, season went to crap after that I forgot that internet has no tone. I loved Lang, and to be honest, am somewhat upset we didn't sign him to a one year deal. At the very least he could mentor Pleckanec on how to be a proper 2nd line center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-K-46 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 wouldnt mind prospal but wouldnt sykora or even tanguay be better then prospal as a winger for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate-the-great_mtl Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 wouldnt mind prospal but wouldnt sykora or even tanguay be better then prospal as a winger for us not prospal, not at all, he doesnt fit in with the new look, he is overrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 wouldnt mind prospal but wouldnt sykora or even tanguay be better then prospal as a winger for us I would look at Sykora before I would consider Prospal. He was getting paid $2.500 last season. It's possible he could be had for similar money that we were "offering" Prospal. I am still opposed to taking away that top-6 spot from one of our youngsters, but Sykora seems like a real team guy. I would offer him a contract before offering one to Prospal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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