Habcup Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=23552 Ilya Kovalchuk> This strong start definitely makes the chances of Ilya re-signing stronger than ever before. Ilya loves Atlanta and I have been told countless times that "he is not Hossa" and if he feels the team is moving towards becoming competitive he will sign long term. I am told that there is very serious talk in Montreal that the Habs are preparing to throw the bank at Ilya if they can. One source has always iterated to me that not taking on Lecavalier's salary may have had more to do with the possibility of Kovalchuk. Not certain, but that sentiment is out there in the hockey insider universe. I did not know we had cap space to absorb a $7.5MM hit (approx) ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSD Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=23552 Ilya Kovalchuk> This strong start definitely makes the chances of Ilya re-signing stronger than ever before. Ilya loves Atlanta and I have been told countless times that "he is not Hossa" and if he feels the team is moving towards becoming competitive he will sign long term. I am told that there is very serious talk in Montreal that the Habs are preparing to throw the bank at Ilya if they can. One source has always iterated to me that not taking on Lecavalier's salary may have had more to do with the possibility of Kovalchuk. Not certain, but that sentiment is out there in the hockey insider universe. I did not know we had cap space to absorb a $7.5MM hit (approx) ???? lol we dont...thats how you know this is false... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordanjordan Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 lol we dont...thats how you know this is false... Well take into account that Hamrlik's salary is 5.5 mil, if we could trade Hamrlik for picks and than work a couple small deals, this would be plausible. Re-signing him would only be an extra million more probabley so i dont think MTL would have too hard of a time. Let's say we would have to trade for him, now that would be a bigger problem as im sure there are other teams with the cap space and better assets to send to ATL than what MTL would be willing to give. So lets just hope it goes to free agency instead so that way we have a fighting chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs1119 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 By next season, if he were to come over to us, it's basically Hamerlik and Pleks salary. Who you'll get to centre the 2nd line is anyones guess, but it is doable to fit 7.5 - 8 mil under the cap for a long term deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 By next season, if he were to come over to us, it's basically Hamerlik and Pleks salary. Who you'll get to centre the 2nd line is anyones guess, but it is doable to fit 7.5 - 8 mil under the cap for a long term deal. We still need to resign Price. I think we have 13 players signed next year for 45 million, we could obviously waive Hamrlik but I just don't see the intelligence behind another large contract upfront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 L. O. L. Don't get me wrong... Kovalchuk is one of the best players in the league, and he would be a phenomenal addition to this team... But it's not happening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avsgirl621 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 L. O. L. Don't get me wrong... Kovalchuk is one of the best players in the league, and he would be a phenomenal addition to this team... But it's not happening! After a bad loss, you know the trade rumours always start heating up big time. So far today I have heard Brad Boyes, Kovalchuk and of course the ubiquitous Cam Barker rumours. The only one I think might be legit is Barker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarker78 Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Well if he was interested in signing here I would try to remove the salaries of Hamrlik,The Kostitsyn bros,and Gill or Mara and there you have it you have enough money for Kovalchuk plus something else. Until then even if we are going to be a top 8 team I would play Weber and Subban as much as possible with the big club so they are ready to log serious minutes by next year.Then of course Obyrne will be reay as soon as he comes back from injury. They could have a team like this. Kovalchuk-Camalerri-Plekanec Pacioretty-Gomez-Gionta Latendresse-Lapierre-Moen Pyatt-Chipchura-Stewart Laraque Markov-Spacek Subban-Mara or Gill(whoever they don't get rid of) Obyrne-Gorges Weber Price Halak or ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordanjordan Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 After a bad loss, you know the trade rumours always start heating up big time. So far today I have heard Brad Boyes, Kovalchuk and of course the ubiquitous Cam Barker rumours. The only one I think might be legit is Barker... Well let's just speculate that the Kovalchuk rumour came from a good source. So if ATL does not trade him thinking they might sign him themselves and yet it goes to free agency, whose to say he won't sign here? When i first read the rumour i figured that "throwing the bank" at Ilya meant if he becomes a free agent the habs will pay top dollar to get him. i dont think "throwing the bank" means trading assets. So i assumed it meant $$$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarker78 Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Well let's just speculate that the Kovalchuk rumour came from a good source. So if ATL does not trade him thinking they might sign him themselves and yet it goes to free agency, whose to say he won't sign here? When i first read the rumour i figured that "throwing the bank" at Ilya meant if he becomes a free agent the habs will pay top dollar to get him. i dont think "throwing the bank" means trading assets. So i assumed it meant $$$$. No it doesn't mean trading assets but we will have to get rid of a few assets to clear enough cap space to sign him.IMO it's worth it for a top level player like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgib21 Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 No it doesn't mean trading assets but we will have to get rid of a few assets to clear enough cap space to sign him.IMO it's worth it for a top level player like him. Sorry,but we have no "assets" ,unless you want to give up Price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickThaHitman42 Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=23552 Ilya Kovalchuk> This strong start definitely makes the chances of Ilya re-signing stronger than ever before. Ilya loves Atlanta and I have been told countless times that "he is not Hossa" and if he feels the team is moving towards becoming competitive he will sign long term. I am told that there is very serious talk in Montreal that the Habs are preparing to throw the bank at Ilya if they can. One source has always iterated to me that not taking on Lecavalier's salary may have had more to do with the possibility of Kovalchuk. Not certain, but that sentiment is out there in the hockey insider universe. I did not know we had cap space to absorb a $7.5MM hit (approx) ???? ... 7.5M... yeah this is fake, why would we break our team down just to get 1 player, we got gomez, who holds one of the biggest contracts in the NHL, i don't think we can handle Kovalchuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssfffs Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 GET HIM NOW!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koreysecord1992 Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 I don't believe this will happen or that it's even in the works, but Gomez-Kovalchuk-Cammalleri....now that's a top line to salivate over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruinsnation Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 the bruins are the front runners for this guy ,acording to tsn they have 4 1st round picks and some good young talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiLla Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 the bruins are the front runners for this guy ,acording to tsn they have 4 1st round picks and some good young talent And how do the Bruins squeeze $7.5M under the cap? Didn't they just let Kessel go because of cap problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 And how do the Bruins squeeze $7.5M under the cap? Didn't they just let Kessel go because of cap problems? It's easy. The make a trade offer for him at the end of the season, before the deadline. Then you only have to worry about a small percentage of the cap problem. Next year he goes UFA and Boston has a real solid chance at winning the Cup with him in the lineup for the post-season. Ta-da! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiLla Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 It's easy. The make a trade offer for him at the end of the season, before the deadline. Then you only have to worry about a small percentage of the cap problem. Next year he goes UFA and Boston has a real solid chance at winning the Cup with him in the lineup for the post-season. Ta-da! Fair enough, as a rental player they have a fat chance of landing him. I don't see him staying in Beantown without Boston having to trade at least two regular players away though. Unfortunately, there's no chance on Earth he'll end up playing for the Habs. We've got to resign Price and Plekanec and therefore cannot afford taking on another $7-8M in salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA_Champion Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 If he cares about winning then he doesn't have much of a reason to pick Montreal over Atlanta. We're comparable this year and they have a superior farm system and youth corps. We have absolutely nobody comparable to Bogosian and Kane. If he cares about money then he'd probably rather pay ~40% income tax than ~50% income tax. I can't see him picking Montreal over Atlanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 If he cares about winning then he doesn't have much of a reason to pick Montreal over Atlanta. We're comparable this year and they have a superior farm system and youth corps. We have absolutely nobody comparable to Bogosian and Kane. If he cares about money then he'd probably rather pay ~40% income tax than ~50% income tax. I can't see him picking Montreal over Atlanta. Get outta here with your reality. We like to dream! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarker78 Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 If he cares about winning then he doesn't have much of a reason to pick Montreal over Atlanta. We're comparable this year and they have a superior farm system and youth corps. We have absolutely nobody comparable to Bogosian and Kane. If he cares about money then he'd probably rather pay ~40% income tax than ~50% income tax. I can't see him picking Montreal over Atlanta. [/quote If he has a dream to play for the greatest organization in sports history he will sign here.Don't give me we can't win because no one has seen this team play enough yet.Maybe he wants to hoist a cup with the greatest sports team ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoopII Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 L. O. L. Don't get me wrong... Kovalchuk is one of the best players in the league, and he would be a phenomenal addition to this team... But it's not happening! I second that. Love to see it happen, but not counting on it. Hockey "insiders" always throw around big names and Montreal in hopes of attracting readers. My gut feeling is that this is just another 'slow day at the office' story. If he has a dream to play for the greatest organization in sports history he will sign here.Don't give me we can't win because no one has seen this team play enough yet.Maybe he wants to hoist a cup with the greatest sports team ever. Your love of your team is showing However, if you're in Toronto, Or Boston, Or Ottawa, Or Detroit... Their fans make the same statements and feel the same way about their team. What their fans DON'T do is make an issue over language or call for the headsman's block after every poor showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sens27 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I think you will see the KHL throw the bank at kovalchuk before you see the habs do. Anyways i dont think montreal will have much money to throw around with some of our current contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiLla Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Maybe we'll trade Gionta for Kovalchuk at the trade deadline if he doesn't re-sign in Atlanta, although this would probably mean we'd have even more trouble signing UFAs in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterWolf37 Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 We can't afford the 10 million a year he wants, plus he just does not play well at the bell center. everyone is upset about Gomez at 7.5 ml imagne 10 mil for Ilya? and it would have to be for 10 years at least. We haave a better chance of getting some of the rockets DNA and cloning him, wait for 19 years then put him on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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