ewraras Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Souray is better than anyone the Habs have on the blueline right now. Anyone. Better than Gorges, better than Mara, better than Gill, better than Bergeron and O'Byrne. He adds size, toughness, leadership and accountability to a team that is lacking in EVERY ONE of those departmants. Make the deal Gainey and bring Sheldon home. Souray is not better than Hamrlik. Souray is not better than Gorges. Souray is not better than O'Byrne. Souray isn't even better than a one-legged Markov. Sorry sport, but I'll take defensemen that can actually play defense over a pylon with a big shot any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I, ugh... Well... you see... DON'T want to trade Sergei anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiLla Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Souray? Yikes. What's the point of that trade anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habcup Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Souray? Yikes. What's the point of that trade anyway. To slowdown our defense. We are not slow enough yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptWelly Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Plus minus is an extremely meaningful stat when you're talking about a player that averaged between 25-30 mins per game. Its significant especially when you're a plus player on a terrible team (which Souray was). While Markov was a minus player on an average team last year. He had 4 Fighting Majors last year. Thats 20 Pims right there for you. I don't have a break down of every PIM after that but to have a player with 78 PIMS is rather small for the style of game that Souray plays. Souray has had injuries in the past but he's playing right now while Mr Markov is on the sidelines. Souray isn't as good as Markov defensively thats a given. Very few are. Souray is an offensive threat from the blueline, a legitimate goal scoring threat, and a guy who will make things happen on the powerplay. He plays physical and he looks after teammates something which Markov doesn't do at all... Again they bring two completely different styles to the table but each is important, thus the apples and oranges comment. Leadership, size, grit, toughness, accountability. Souray has them all and its exactly what the Habs need. Do you honestly think he's not better than anyone currently playing on the Habs blueline? (Markov being hurt is not playing). I thought that +/- was only calculated during even strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanFromAB Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I can't even believe we're talking about Souray. It looks like Plek and Cammy are a pair. It looks like Gomez and Gionta are a pair. We need some talented size for these guys. Dustin Penner would be a tremendous acquisition. If we could swap the Kostitsyns and Laraque (Oiler fans love Laraque) and whatever else they need within reason to do this deal I would do it asap. Andrew Cogliano = another small center we don't need. Sergei Kostitsyn-Gomez-Gionta Cammy-Plek-SomeonewithTalentandSize=Andrei Kostitsyn I fixed it for you! I would never trade the Kos Bros for anyone right now. Leave this team alone right now....especially do not trade with the Oilers, they don't have anything that we could use! Markov is back soon, Hammer is playing great! Our scoring is coming, we are capatalizing on chances! This rumour is dead, long dead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rondalsf Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I fixed it for you! I would never trade the Kos Bros for anyone right now. Leave this team alone right now....especially do not trade with the Oilers, they don't have anything that we could use! Markov is back soon, Hammer is playing great! Our scoring is coming, we are capatalizing on chances! This rumour is dead, long dead! Souray? - you are kidding right? No more trading let's move forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekHockeyCoach Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Since there is no longer a rumour of moving Sergei, this topic is closed. The discussion can be continued in the If I were GM thread. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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