Trade Deadline Discussion

[Ramadolly]

Phaneuf is another Komisarek with scoring potential. He can hit and can score. And for $6.5million? Are you nuts? He's not as good as Hamrlik defensively.

Phaneuf would be a welcome addition to any lineup including ours.

[Montreal-Gnomes]

Phaneuf would be a welcome addition to any lineup including ours.

No. He is not welcome. Too expensive for what he brings. He's also a dirty player who lays out a lot of cheap shots, which leads to a demoralized team with a sense of guilt like the Calgary Flames - who are on a losing streak because of it.

[Bastian_mtl]

Phaneuf would be a welcome addition to any lineup including ours.

Would be great, but what do you think we'd hafta give up for him?? Obviously at least 1 first rounder (perhaps other picks as well), most likely at least 1 prospect....Plek? Kostitsyn Bros.? Hamrlik?

Imagine....Markov / Phaneuf.....then maybe in a few years.....Subban / Phaneuf

[FormalWare]

Would be great, but what do you think we'd hafta give up for him?? Obviously at least 1 first rounder (perhaps other picks as well), most likely at least 1 prospect....Plek? Kostitsyn Bros.? Hamrlik?

Imagine....Markov / Phaneuf.....then maybe in a few years.....Subban / Phaneuf

1) The Flames badly need a playmaker tp feed Iggy; Joker ain't cutting it. Pleky would fit the bill, nicely. 2) The Flames need a capable backup to Kipper--esp. if he's to have anything left in the tank for the playoffs, after starting for Finland in the Olympics. Halak would be perfect (or perhaps Flames would demand Price; no deal, I'd say).

In addition to Dion, Habs might expect some modest additional compensation--which they could turn around and deal for a 2nd/3rd-line centreman. Gomer would, of course, have to centre Cammi for the rest of this season--his chance to step up and earn half his salary.

[Montreal-Gnomes]

Trade Phaneuf to Toronto Leaf where he can join Komisarek in a tag team cheap shot duo and help them for their run for Hall.

[pistol-pierre]

i predict gainey will sit back and watch again this year. we all know he does not want to trade price. if anything i see halak going for a 2nd rounder. same thing we seen with huet. but never know he might surprise us.

[kiprusoffk]

Right, get rid of Montreal's two best players Plekanec and Halak for a cheap shot artist. Great move Boss!

You would prefer losing Plekanec for nothing at the end of the season??? And one man's "cheap shot artist" is another man's "intense hard nosed player" . Depends on which side of the fence you are looking from

[FormalWare]

Trading Halak (or Price, for that matter; either goalie) at this point would be a huge risk--that, I freely admit. Might cause Habs to miss the playoffs, this year, with all the attendant costs, both tangible and intangible. You'd only do it for a potentially huge reward. I think getting Dion Phaneuf, right as he heads into what should be the prime of his career, could be considered "huge". rickym called him "another Komisarek with scoring potential"; I would say his physical impact is, if anything, greater than Komi's. He's not dirty--he's just a monster! And, of course, there's all that raw offensive talent. He's the kind of player you absolutely despise (we've seen that sentiment expressed, right here)--as long as he's dressed in anyone else's colours but one's own. (Very much like Komi!)

As for Pleky, KORDIC hit it on the head. I'll sum up the logic in three words: Unrestricted. Free. Agent. Sign him, or trade him, Bob--and do it SOON!

[longtimefan_mtl]

Of course we can make room for Kovalchuk by trading away Hamrlik's $5.5million cap hit as well as other players like Mara, Gill, etc.... What laughable top six player are you referring to? We'll have 2 amazing first and second scoring lines which will pretty much guarantee us several points a game . With this line up we are cup contenders. Kovalchuk is exactly who we need, and those players (Price,Kostitsyns, etc) we're trading are exactly who we don't need. And the first pick we're trading away will be worthless after getting Kovalchuk.

i agree with you. i think its possible with what your suggesting. i think u could add pleks in there as trade bait too. like last year, he starts off strong and as the playoff near, where is he ?. sure he gives us a point or two every other game, but is that what we really need ?.

[ruuvimeisseli]

2010 Trade deadline deals:

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3 hours before deadline

To Dal:

Jaroslav Halak (RFA 2010)

Hal Gill (UFA 2011)

To Mon:

1st round pick 2010

Alex Auld (UFA 2010)

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2 hours before deadline

To La:

Roman Hamrlik (UFA 2011)

To Mon:

Jack Johnson (RFA 2011)

2nd round pick 2010

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Last minute deal

To Cal:

Tomas Plekanec (UFA 2010)

4th round pick 2010

Yannick Weber (RFA 2011)

To Mon:

Phaneuf Dion (UFA 2014)

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Total roster size 22 (2g, 8d, 12f)

Total Payroll: $54,212,141

2010 Draft picks:

1st round Montreal

1st round Dallas

2nd round Montreal

2nd round pick Los Angelas

5th round pick Montreal

[longtimefan_mtl]

Trading Halak (or Price, for that matter; either goalie) at this point would be a huge risk--that, I freely admit. Might cause Habs to miss the playoffs, this year, with all the attendant costs, both tangible and intangible. You'd only do it for a potentially huge reward. I think getting Dion Phaneuf, right as he heads into what should be the prime of his career, could be considered "huge". rickym called him "another Komisarek with scoring potential"; I would say his physical impact is, if anything, greater than Komi's. He's not dirty--he's just a monster! And, of course, there's all that raw offensive talent. He's the kind of player you absolutely despise (we've seen that sentiment expressed, right here)--as long as he's dressed in anyone else's colours but one's own. (Very much like Komi!)

As for Pleky, KORDIC hit it on the head. I'll sum up the logic in three words: Unrestricted. Free. Agent. Sign him, or trade him, Bob--and do it SOON!

again, i think we should trade him. while we can get something for him. really, its the same old story, what have you done for me lately, really, how many goals has he had in the last month. Pouliot has been here for how long and scored how many ?. look at what pleks did last year, started out strong and faded out in the second half of the season. same will happen this year

[face-off_mtl]

WE DO NOT , I REPEAT, WE DO NOT TRADE OUR GOLIES FOR NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

unless it's for crosby , malykin , or god forbid ovechkin ya right!!!!anything from the

goal line out is fair game

GO!!!!HABS!!!!GO!!!!

[QbGamer]

Who would you give for Phaneuf?

you need at LEAST one good scorer, a prospect, and probably a first or second pick...

Not always, As it could also take into fact that its a salary dump. They wont be able to sign this Huge new player if they dont dump salary they dump there 7+ million player to us, Its a hard one, i dont think we have any scorer in our system.

lol METRO that we can offer... Only player would be AK.. we kinda need him.

[johnnym]

To La:

Roman Hamrlik (UFA 2011)

To Mon:

Jack Johnson (RFA 2011)

2nd round pick 2010

more like

To La:

Roman Hamrlik (UFA 2011)

2nd round pick 2010

To Mon:

Jack Johnson (RFA 2011)

3rd pick maybe?

[Bastian_mtl]

2010 Trade deadline deals:

To Dal:

Jaroslav Halak (RFA 2010)

Hal Gill (UFA 2011)

To Mon:

1st round pick 2010

Alex Auld (UFA 2010)

_________________________________________

To La:

Roman Hamrlik (UFA 2011)

To Mon:

Jack Johnson (RFA 2011)

2nd round pick 2010

__________________________________________

To Cal:

Tomas Plekanec (UFA 2010)

4th round pick 2010

Yannick Weber (RFA 2011)

To Mon:

Phaneuf Dion (UFA 2014)

Tell ya what...if you can get BG to make ANY of those trades, then I (and you have my word), will go to a Montreal game, broadcasted live on TSN or CBC (whichever), strip down to my B-day suit, hop over the glass, grab a stick from someone, I'll bring my own puck, go down the ice and try to deke out a goalie! Heck, I'll even pull a "Cormier" on a ref. How's that sound?

Would be nice though.

[nhlmaniac_mtl]

"Should the Habs fade, there is the possibility of trading pending free agent centre Tomas Plekanec , the team's leading scorer, who could be difficult to re-sign when last summer's trio of acquisitions -- Scott Gomez, Mike Cammalleri and Brian Gionta -- are all taking in more than $5-million per season. Given the play of Cedrick Desjardins in the AHL, there's also the possibility that Montreal could move a goaltender, with Jaroslav Halak the one who has been rumoured more often."

To Panthers:

HALAK or PRICE (I am really getting annoyed at all these arguments)

Plekanec

Conditionnel 4th round pick if Plecky doesn't resign)

To Montreal:

Thomas Vokoun

Horton

6th round pick

[Kubby31]

WE DO NOT , I REPEAT, WE DO NOT TRADE OUR GOLIES FOR NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

unless it's for crosby , malykin , or god forbid ovechkin ya right!!!!

I'd be in heaven

[Rondalsf]

I'd be in heaven

Are you ok?....did your heart start beating again!

[Kubby31]

Are you ok?....did your heart start beating again!

LET ME DREAM......OK.

[ruuvimeisseli]

Page 2 for trades.

Cammalleri-Gomez-Pouliot

A.kostitsyn-Maxwell-Gionta

S.kostitsyn-Metropolit-Moen

Bergeron-Lapierre-Dache

Markov-Phaneuf

Spacek-Johnson

Gorges-O'bryne

Price

Auld

[gracie12]

folks, warnings and suspensions have been issued because of posts in this thread.

I am starting to get really tired of people missing the point here:

Talk about the players, NOT EACH OTHER.

The next person that starts calling someone else out will be getting a time-out for no less than 3 days.

[Rondalsf]

LET ME DREAM......OK.

OK

[Kubby31]

folks, warnings and suspensions have been issued because of posts in this thread.

I am starting to get really tired of people missing the point here:

Talk about the players, NOT EACH OTHER.

The next person that starts calling someone else out will be getting a time-out for no less than 3 days.

Agreed...

I personally just want you all to know...I apologize here....I could have worded my opinion in a much better fashion.

I did not intentionally mean to disrespect a member here....sorry for doing so.

[cbarker78]

Look, this roster has its issues, like a top six that's almost laughable, but the major issue with aquiring Kovy is about next season. He only costs 6.4 million now, but he's apparently expecting a major salary increase for next season. Not only would we not be able to resign Kovy, but we'll have trouble filling that top six spot when we'd already have to resign Pouliot, Halak, and others, who will be expecting a raise as well. So we'd be letting Kovy go, and we'd have just traded away a lot of our future. No more Price, no more AK46, other prospects and young players gone, along with a draft pick that would most likely be top 10 with how our defense looks.

I'd suggest giving up on Kovy. He isn't what we're looking for, and he's got too high a price tag, in terms of salary cap and what it'd take to trade for him.

Gauranteed they would want Subban in any trade package so forget it.I would consider it if it didn't cost us Subban and Kovalchuk would sign here for between 7-8 million a season.He wants more then that and will most likely get it.In Montreal he would make a lot more then his salary because he would be very marketable here.I don't think that would be enough to convince him to take less money.

[Lynch_mtl]

Gauranteed they would want Subban in any trade package so forget it.I would consider it if it didn't cost us Subban and Kovalchuk would sign here for between 7-8 million a season.He wants more then that and will most likely get it.In Montreal he would make a lot more then his salary because he would be very marketable here.I don't think that would be enough to convince him to take less money.

For sure. The problem with Kovy is that we would have to give up a lot to get the rights to sign him, but then we would be making a mistake by signing him to a lengthy, pricey contract. With so many players signed to relatively long contracts at high prices, we'd most likely have to give up some prospects/good players in the future to accomodate his salary.

There are other teams out there that could more easily accomodate his contract, and could afford to give up some assets to obtain him.