leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Mr. Boivin said they gave all their options some thought, so I don't think it's fair to say they didn't look else where, they likely reviewed all available people that aren't under contract and decided to move forward with Mr. Gauthier and he's a good hockey man so I'm going to give him some time. This job is so specialized and the skill set you look for is so rare that all you really need to do is look over a guy's resume/work history and you can pretty much conclude his philosophies. Atleast that's what Mr. Boivin made it sound like. Thanks for that. I missed the press conference and wasn't aware that they had mentioned reviewing other options. My bad. I'm hoping for success with Gauthier, but I'm a little bitter and anxious about the Habs going forward. There's not, in my opinion, much to be optimisitc about considering the cap situation and the way the team has been performing this season. I'm not sure if any G.M. could pull of the moves we need to clear cap space/turn this team into a contending team in 2 or 3 seasons. Maybe Gauthier can manage something incredible here? Maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 He was on the Team 990 this afternoon seems like status quo when it comes to running the team, can't say I'm not disappointed. Well we went from Gainey with Gauthier as his right hand man to Gauthier with Gainey as his advisor ... the power has shifted but it wasn't exactly much of a shake-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QbGamer Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 boring first day come on shake it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubby31 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Welcome to the world of never pleasing anyone! I firmly believe Gauthier needs years to show what he can do before we even think about passing judgment on him. I agree. Fans can be patient if they sense that the man in charge has a plan and a long-term vision. I think what ultimately started to wear on many fans, myself included, was the feeling that Bob didn't really have a clear long-term plan for the team. A lack most clearly evidenced by his unwittingly letting half the team go UFA at the same time and then suddenly tearing down the team he'd refused to alter in years past ... only to rebuild them in basically the same image. Good post I just heard Gauthier on CKAC and i'm not convinced. He said he can't say he will work differently than Gainey and that it's better to leave the team as it is and be silent at the trade deadline. I'm having a hard time to see the changes here. OH OH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubby31 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 going to see a simular style as Bob had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
361322_1475251407 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 I am sharpening my knives, as I post! Where is our next cup, already! It's Montreal people! Just wait until we turn it all to slush, yet again! Someone get Hal Gill some goalie pads and let him keep net against the Caps! Come on new GM, think outside of the box! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winstonsmith Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 As overvalued as Gomez is, I don't expect him to be traded anytime soon. Trading him after just 1 year puts a bad impression on the Canadiens organization and sends a message to future UFA's that Montreal isn't the safest place to set up shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp73 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 lol.... http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnist...8/12796286.html New Habs GM described as micro manager 'The Ghost' Gauthier known for quick temper, solid personnel moves VANCOUVER - Well, visitors to the Jacques Beauchamp media lounge at the Bell Centre could be the first to feel the effects in the Pierre “The Ghost” Gauthier era of the Montreal Canadiens. Gauthier took over the reins of the hockey operations Monday when GM Bob Gainey, his energy for the job seemingly sapped by years of personal tragedies, walked away from the top hockey job of the franchise for which he became an icon as a Stanley Cup-winning captain. Gauthier, who has been Gainey’s right-hand man as assistant GM, is a micro manager with a low profile and, according to colleagues and former employees contacted by QMI Agency yesterday, is a sometimes enigmatic leader with a fiery temper behind the scenes. When he was the general manager of the Ottawa Senators, he once limited visitors to the media room pre-game buffet to one cookie apiece after he arrived one night to find the cookie basket empty. He banned the so-called “vanity numbers,” from the Senators’ backs, limiting players to numbers between 1 and 33 because he felt numbers like the 91 worn by Alexandre Daigle drew attention to individuals and away from the team. There wasn’t an aspect of the organization that didn’t bear Gauthier’s fingerprints and that attention transformed the Senators from a running joke into a Stanley Cup contender. He hired Jacques Martin as coach, and, in light of Monday’s developments, it is no coincidence Martin is now behind the Canadiens’ bench. Gauthier was plucked out of the Anaheim Ducks organization to take over the Senators’ operation in December, 1996, when the expansion Senators were in crisis and faced with thousands of seats to sell in their new building. Dave King and Serge Savard had been interviewed to replace Randy Sexton, but, at the behest of then-consultant Roy Mlakar, Bryden and the others were told to look at the best number two men in the league. Gauthier got the job. In his two-and-a-half years as Senators GM beginning in the middle of the 1995 season, he transformed the Senators with the hiring of Martin and trades that brought in goaltender Damian Rhodes defencemen Wade Redden, Janne Laukkanen, Jason York and Igor Kravchuk and forwards Shawn McEachern and Shaun Van Allen, who all played key roles in the Senators’ turnaround. His strength has always been in evaluating player personnel. He left the Senators in controversy after the 1997-98 season, quitting to return to Anaheim after at first denying such a move was in the works. In his time in Ottawa, Gauthier earned the nickname “The Ghost,” as he was seldom visible for long stretches of time and then, like an apparition, would suddenly appear in a hallway of Scotiabank Place. He is guarded at the best of times both with the media and employees, one remarking yesterday, “you never knew if you saw him in the hallway if he would acknowledge your presence or not. It made a lot of people uncomfortable.” Pierre Grouchy was another nickname. Always composed and retiring publicly, he became legendary for his fits of temper behind the scenes. After one game in which goaltender Ron Tugnutt relieved Rhodes and was awarded one of the game stars, an enraged Gauthier slapped a bag of pretzels from the management suite into the crowd and supposedly dropped kicked a chicken dinner into the wall. The tirade continued downstairs in the coaches’ room where he sent a bag of popcorn flying, leaving the coaching staff looking at each other in amazement. The reason? He thought the awarding of a game star to Tugnutt would fuel a goaltending controversy and Gauthier was loathe to see any such thing in the papers. It’s interesting now that a goaltending controversy is exactly what is uppermost on the minds of most Canadiens fans and the media as the Canadiens are in a fight for a playoff spot. The Ghost knows his stuff and that's good because he'll have a lot more to worry about in Montreal than how many cookies are in the basket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jst-onge Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 People seem to forget Gomez was not a UFA signing it was a trade 3 players for 3 players with the NYR and Higgins is now in Calgary, Janik is in Detroit and Mcdonough is still in school. We have Gomez and well he is not worth the almost 8million he is getting paid on most nights he is a positive player at both ends. Pyatt is going to be a good 3-4 line player soon, and without Gomez no Gionta or Cammy so the real impact is more than just $$$ , without Gomez other good players would not have come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsnyc Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 <edited>You think Price who will a RFA in the Summer as well as Halak is Valuable think again. You trade Price you might get a 2nd round pick and Halak goes to the KHL because he can make 3-4 million there he will only get minimum in the NHL because Mtl will qualify him at the minimum, <edited> Please watch how you reply to other members. I didn't say anything of the sort. I said that IF the organization lost confidence in Price and I said that was a SPECULATION then the first sign would be to remove Gainey who was his ardent supporter. But I imagine the organization will keep Halak and Price then trade the rights to Halak in the offseason. People seem to forget Gomez was not a UFA signing it was a trade 3 players for 3 players with the NYR and Higgins is now in Calgary, Janik is in Detroit and Mcdonough is still in school. We have Gomez and well he is not worth the almost 8million he is getting paid on most nights he is a positive player at both ends. Pyatt is going to be a good 3-4 line player soon, and without Gomez no Gionta or Cammy so the real impact is more than just $$$ , without Gomez other good players would not have come. How many drinks would it take to forget the Gomez trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winstonsmith Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 People seem to forget Gomez was not a UFA signing it was a trade 3 players for 3 players with the NYR and Higgins is now in Calgary, Janik is in Detroit and Mcdonough is still in school. We have Gomez and well he is not worth the almost 8million he is getting paid on most nights he is a positive player at both ends. Pyatt is going to be a good 3-4 line player soon, and without Gomez no Gionta or Cammy so the real impact is more than just $$$ , without Gomez other good players would not have come. The point is, if you're gonna "give up" on your SIGNIFICANT aquirings (be it trade or ufa signing) after less than a full season and not build around them then what kind of message are you sending to future UFA's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracie12 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 an enraged Gauthier slapped a bag of pretzels from the management suite into the crowd and supposedly dropped kicked a chicken dinner into the wall. The tirade continued downstairs in the coaches’ room where he sent a bag of popcorn flying, leaving the coaching staff looking at each other in amazement. For the love of all that is holy, keep the Montreal Smoked Meat sandwiches away from this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracie12 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 An interesting read by Eric Engels: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eric-Engels...Gainey/82/26159 The bolded part is something that I really think is worth noting: To many fans, Gauthier’s promotion is a sign of a continued mediocrity (for lack of better words) given that his pro-scouting department was largely responsible for the deals that were the most prevalent subjects of criticism expressed during Gainey’s tenure. Oft-ignored are the deals that never came to fruition—deals that people may have raved about but never heard about as they were proposed by Gauthier and denied by Gainey. Rarely credited for--are the deals they did pull off that helped this team accomplish some good things throughout Gainey’s time as GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabs_n_Habs Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 The point is, if you're gonna "give up" on your SIGNIFICANT aquirings (be it trade or ufa signing) after less than a full season and not build around them then what kind of message are you sending to future UFA's. ...don't suck and you can stay! pretty good message to send if you ask me. in all honesty I am sure any player, person in the world would understand why we would get rid of Gomez given our cap woes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreWqCFj Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 I look around the comments of most guys on here..it s amazing that Carey Price comes up often on the discussions...Most people would love to have a great goalie between the pipes...for sure..a number one...but look around the league who s number one and number 2....and whos teams have them and where they are standing as well...if everybody remember of last year the stories that have been on Carey and all the young players partying...did anybody thought to be able to take the new players and to take care of them and to surround them by veterans... to follow them and to be an influence in their style of life? like most teams does with their new rookies? To bring the team together..give more responsabilities to the veterans..to put order in the dressing room...to have a Real Captain? A Captain with a real touch to assemble the whole team.. To have a guy like Gary Roberts..Iginla, or Modano...Look all around the League...the Great Captains...someone who can talk and act... a real leader..we havent assign yet a Captain... is that pathetic by now? Who take controle of the dressing room...We need a man of stature..honest and with grasp... most the guys we have on that team have a temper or work their own ways..more than work as a team...we dont need just talent...but carisma..ethic work...guy who are proud to be part of that team...as a Canadiens de Montreal..bring back the team we had years and decades before..The same way the Yankees does every year and do not content themselves of mediocricity.. to stay on top..and find to stay that way....Montreal use to be a winning team in Hockey history as the Yankees is in Baseball... Find guys who wants to carry the Torch...the real guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catt-_mtlc Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 For the love of all that is holy, keep the Montreal Smoked Meat sandwiches away from this guy. Or a poutine that would make a hell of a mess. I've read good things about this guy and bad things I just don't know what to think but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORN-a-HAB-_mtlc Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 gomez isnt the player ANYONE expected i aint the kind of person to drink sour milk..and it's sour.keep him till end-o-season. then ship him to the sahara desert!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruuvimeisseli Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 I have mixed emotion of hiring him as GM. Here are his season standings has a gm, I find it interesting how he has lots of super sucking season but not any outstanding ones, from 2003 he was scouting boss and assistant gm of the habs. Ducks 1998-2002 6th, 9th, 15th, 13th Ottawa 1995–1998 13th, 7th, 8th He has never been gm of the new era of hockey. Its way to early to say if he will be a good gm or not but it seems to me he his big on scouting, i quickly scanned the duck drafting record from 1998-2002 it was dissapointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColRouleBleu Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 For the love of all that is holy, keep the Montreal Smoked Meat sandwiches away from this guy. next promotion at the bell: fans who have tickets in the sections under the management box get a red, white & blue plastic poncho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamesgal1 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 I have mixed emotion of hiring him as GM. Here are his season standings has a gm, I find it interesting how he has lots of super sucking season but not any outstanding ones, from 2003 he was scouting boss and assistant gm of the habs. Ducks 1998-2002 6th, 9th, 15th, 13th Ottawa 1995–1998 13th, 7th, 8th He has never been gm of the new era of hockey. Its way to early to say if he will be a good gm or not but it seems to me he his big on scouting, i quickly scanned the duck drafting record from 1998-2002 it was dissapointing. He speaks French Fluently though. After all its harder to learn a language then it is to become a really good GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 An interesting read by Eric Engels: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eric-Engels...Gainey/82/26159 The bolded part is something that I really think is worth noting: To many fans, Gauthier’s promotion is a sign of a continued mediocrity (for lack of better words) given that his pro-scouting department was largely responsible for the deals that were the most prevalent subjects of criticism expressed during Gainey’s tenure. Oft-ignored are the deals that never came to fruition—deals that people may have raved about but never heard about as they were proposed by Gauthier and denied by Gainey. Rarely credited for--are the deals they did pull off that helped this team accomplish some good things throughout Gainey’s time as GM. Then again, this is a little disconcerting. "Gauthier was also quick to acknowledge his presence on the market, candidly assuring he’d do anything possible to help the team accomplish its goal of making the playoffs, not dismissing the concept of adding “rentals”, but not suggesting that will be his course of action. He exuded a resonant confidence in his coaching and player personnel, and suggested, without outright exclamation, that no drastic changes were pending." Anything possible to help the team accomplish its goal of making the playoffs. I hope he's just saying what's expected of him from the media and fans and doesn't ACTUALLY intend to do "anything possible" to get the team into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruggie54 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 This orgainization only care about friendships within. How can they keep the same formula as before and think that things will change for the starving HABS fans. May the country club go on??? I'm sure we will see the same poor moves as we've seen when Gainey was GM because this is just a smoke screen move to make the HABS fans think that our cry for a change has been anwsered. This orgainization is in for a long ride of poor hockey teams to come, and so is the poor hab fans. Shame on this orgainization for being self centered enough to think that we are blind and cant see past this rediculious move. It's only goal is odvious, to please themselves and iner circle, not the HABS FAN???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames4eva Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 An interesting read by Eric Engels: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eric-Engels...Gainey/82/26159 The bolded part is something that I really think is worth noting: To many fans, Gauthier’s promotion is a sign of a continued mediocrity (for lack of better words) given that his pro-scouting department was largely responsible for the deals that were the most prevalent subjects of criticism expressed during Gainey’s tenure. Oft-ignored are the deals that never came to fruition—deals that people may have raved about but never heard about as they were proposed by Gauthier and denied by Gainey. Rarely credited for--are the deals they did pull off that helped this team accomplish some good things throughout Gainey’s time as GM. Seems like a contradictory statement to me... how do you rave about something you never heard about? And how can we know if what was proposed and denied were actually good hockey deals for the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rondalsf Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 gomez isnt the player ANYONE expected i aint the kind of person to drink sour milk..and it's sour.keep him till end-o-season. then ship him to the sahara desert!!!! what did you expect? Have you not seen him play before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORN-a-HAB-_mtlc Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 what did you expect? Have you not seen him play before? yes, i have but when i heard he was coming here for an ARM and LEG i thought this guy was going to bring more to the table..i didnt stuyd his every move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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