Guest Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Here's our guys BTW.... Marc-Andre Bergeron -11 Roman Hamrlik -2 Andrei Markov +1 Jaroslav Spacek +9 Paul Mara -16 Josh Gorges +5 Hal Gill -6 Ryan O'Byrne -4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyMan86 Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Yeah id trade patches straight up for frolov if we could clear cap space to resign frolov. also a reminder guys this is a frolov discussion not how bad or good our defencemen are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QbGamer Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Someone break down the numbers.. As much as everyone here wants to see Frolov.. How can we afford him.. And i dont mean as a rental but i mean next season? Even if we get rid of Hammer's 5.5, that will most likely end up in Pleks's pocket.. We would still need to trade away a High paid player.. Meanin Gionta/Gomez/Cammy / Markov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QbGamer Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 IF Frolov resigns (and we manage to send some salary to LA, Spacek & Hammer being the obvious choices) - why not? I'd still hate to see another power forward in the making leave Montreal, though. The pain of losing LeClair (who was my favorite Hab back then) will never go away, I guess.. Problem is we will still need to resign some d next season.. If we drop trade Hammer + Spacek Then we will have Markov Obyrne Gorges - Injured Bergeron - Injured Mara - Injured Gill LoL... thats it... We would need to call up 3 Rookies. Which isnt possible unless we can pickup someone else off of waivers or if were receiving a d in return aswell .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyMan86 Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Someone break down the numbers.. As much as everyone here wants to see Frolov.. How can we afford him.. And i dont mean as a rental but i mean next season? Even if we get rid of Hammer's 5.5, that will most likely end up in Pleks's pocket.. We would still need to trade away a High paid player.. Meanin Gionta/Gomez/Cammy / Markov 45,158,333 is our cap for next season. 57,449,560 the cap this season weather it goes down or up im not sure leaves us with around 12m moving hamrliks contract moves another 5.5m....17m in cap space Sergei Kostitsyn LW 585,000816,667 RFA Benoit Pouliot LW 803,250803,250 RFA Maxim Lapierre C 800,000687,500 RFA* Mathieu Darche LW 600,000600,000 UFA Matt D'Agostini RW 500,000500,000 RFA Carey Price G 850,0002,200,000 RFA Jaroslav Halak G 800,000775,000 RFA* yeah looking at our situation we probably couldnt even resign frolov haha unless we are sending BOTH spacek and hamrlik somewhere else for picks and prospects... also it has been stated by gorges himself that hes feeling fine and is ready to play against philly. front page of the habs website if you want the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cenner_Hice Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 This rumour has "rumour" stamped all over it. Even in the US, it has "rumor" stamped on it. Eklund has missed it and this is the first time I've commented on a rumour (I think). So it's probably all true. All of it. Everything everyone has already said is true. And so is this. It's a rumour. How many come right? (sorry for the less than serious response on my part to this rumour). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QbGamer Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Just read this one Hey guys, Getting so many questions on this so I'll let you guys know what I'm hearing: The Frolov to Montreal rumor is pretty much phony. Lets remember here, the Kings are in the middle of a playoff race and hope to go deep. The Kings wouldn't mind moving Frolov, and they were fully intent on doing so until Ray Whitney's unrealistic contract demands foiled their trade with the Hurricanes. My source in LA says nothing is imminent at all. Now, time to put my laptop away. Won't have time to come back on today guys. - Dallas Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-K-46 Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 http://hendrickshockey.com/index.php?optio...s&Itemid=86 another link with all this frolov speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QbGamer Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Could be because of Gorges injury.............. OR DAS TRADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! P.K Subban recalled from the AHL's Hamilton Bulldogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerbob7501 Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 IN THIS THREAD: Spacek is underrated by people. He's more than adequate and his give-aways are overblown. He's dependable, but his salary is a little much for what he's bringing to the team at this latter stage in his career, so I say package him, Pacioretty, D'agostini for Frolov and a 2nd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimmerpuck Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Seems like the same rumor is being regurgitated over and over. The originator better have something or his rep is toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafer4lifer1 Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 habs inside out says now the rumour is D'ags and Weber for Frolov. Not enough salary leaving the habs imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerbob7501 Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 It's losing a lot less though. Who know's maybe there will be another way to unload salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSD Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 habs inside out says now the rumour is D'ags and Weber for Frolov. Not enough salary leaving the habs imo yeah i dont get this at all move a bigger contract...throw hammer in there lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafer4lifer1 Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 yeah i dont get this at all move a bigger contract...throw hammer in there lol if after this trade, we trade hammer or gomez it will make sense. but otherwise... bad move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matariel Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Here's what I just read off toutsurlehockey.com (they usually don't report imaginary-deals-as-done a la Eklund) "Selon ce que rapporte Team999, le Canadien de Montréal aurait aquis l’attaquant Alexander Frolov des Kings de Los Angeles en retour de l’attaquant Matt D’Agostini et du défenseur Yanick Weber. La transaction devrait être annoncé d'ici demain. Selon ce que rapporte le journaliste Rich Hammond du LA Kings Insider, il pourrait bien y avoir des mouvements de personnel aujourd’hui au sein de l’organisation." For the unfortunately non-bilinguals amongst you, Team999 apparently reported (as was mentioned in a previous post in this thread) that Frolov seems to have been traded to the Habs in exchange for Weber & D'Agostini (i'm glad they kept Pacioretty). I'm crossing my fingers... But! who'll be headed onto the 3rd line? (Cam Pleks AK SK Gomez Gionta Pouliot Frolov ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trayen11 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Just saw on the TSN ticker something about Montreal aquiring Domonic Moore, didnt see it all give me a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Just saw on the TSN ticker something about Montreal aquiring Domonic Moore, didnt see it all give me a few. There's a thread in the main forum, We traded a 2nd rounder for Moore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trayen11 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 There's a thread in the main forum, We traded a 2nd rounder for Moore. Ahh i didnt see it, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritcey--12 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 TSNBobMcKenzie I have tried to ignore the Frolov to Mtl rumors but I have had enough -- no truth. If LA wouldn't give up Frolov for Kovalchuk... via twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialboyMikey Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I hope to sweet hell that peirre has something up his sleeve..hopefully hammer and dags and even fischer for frolov and possibley a 3rd..thats my dream deal now........WHAT ARE YOU THINKING 2nd ROUNDER FOR MOORE:O! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA_Champion Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 TSNBobMcKenzie I have tried to ignore the Frolov to Mtl rumors but I have had enough -- no truth. If LA wouldn't give up Frolov for Kovalchuk... via twitter LA turned down a straight-up Frolov for Kovalchuk trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsfan512 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 the only way this makes sense is if you look at it as rental for rental(kovy-frolov) now being offered two good young affordable players under contract...but still does not make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habcore Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 LA turned down a straight-up Frolov for Kovalchuk trade? Not straight up . Was a multi player deal that Atl pushed for Frolov to be involved in but LA sqashed it last minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell75 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Frolov won't resign with LA in the off season, so LA wants to move him now and get something decent back...my guess is defence for a good playoff run. Hamrlik is a solid D man and LA could take his contract. Frolov and Cammy are apparently great together. If Montreal got Frolov now, we could see how he and Cammy play together first hand. If we wait until UFA season to get Frolov, likely we will have to lock in long term. I think this rumour has some merit to it. Kings get something for a guy who's going to leave and the Habs create another "proven pair" of forwards. Frolov-Plek-Cammy Pouliot-Gomez-Gionta SK-Metro/Moore-AK Moen-Metro/Moore-Rookie But I think we'd have to shed some cap from the D (Hamrlik, Mara, Gill)...personally I like Spacek for the $ and he's got a good +/- It all just makes too much sense, so I'd be surprised if happens. Let's get more guys like Moore in (*****?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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