Build Your 2010-2011 Habs

[cbarker78]

2010-2011 Habs

1.Sign Plekanec 5 year 20 million.

2.Sign Price and Halak to 3 years at 6.75 million each.Cap hit 2.25.

3.Sign Pouliot to a 3 year 6 million deal.

4.Trade the Kostitsyns and the rights to Lapierre to Florida for Nathan Horton.

5.Trade Spacek to Calgary for a 1st round pick in 11.

6.Trade Hamrlik to the Islanders for a 2nd round pick in 11.

7.Sign UFA Mathew Lombardi to a 3 year 7 million deal.2.5,2.5,2.0.

8.Sign veteran winger UFA Jere Lethonen to 1 year at 1 million.

9.Sign Tough UFA forward Shawn Thornton to 2 years at 1.8 million.

10.Sign UFA Glen Metropolit to 1 year at 800,000.

11.Sign UFA defenseman Jay Mckee to 2 years at 4 million.2.0,2.0.

Cammalleri(6)-Plekanec(4)-Horton(4)

Pouliot(2)-Gomez(7.357)-Gionta(5)

Darche(.700)-Lombardi(2.5)-Lehtonen(1)

Moen(1.5)-Metropolit(.800)-Thornton(.900)

Pyatt(.750)Maxwell(.735)

Markov(5.75)-Gorges(1.3)

Mckee(2)-Obyrne(1.4)

Gill(2.25)-Subban(.875)

Weber(.637)

Halak(2.25)

Price(2.25)

[Brisebois]

I wonder if Philly wouldnt give up Jeff Carter for Tomas Vokoun why would they do it for Price? Then again Philly is likely in desperate need of a goalie so something like Gomez Price and a pick and/or prospect for Carter is a good idea, frees up a bunch space and gives the Flyers a better goalie than what they have now. Also dont think Spacek is worth a 2nd and MTL would probably need to take money back to trade him. Id also say Seidenberg will command more than 2.5 million on the open market to come over to MTL. Do like the Malhotra signing though he is a very good 3rd/4th line grinder player. Gill probably unmovable as well till later in the season near the deadline.

The 2nd rounder for Spacek also can be a 3rd rounder or a 4th rounder. It's only a move to free up som cap space. Hamrlik I would keep because I think he would be a good partner for Subban. After the next year just let him walk and you'll get another 5.5 million in cap space which might help re-signing Markov. Malhotra as you mentioned would be a great 3rd/4th line center as he his outstanding in the face-off circle and brings size down the middle.

[mtl10]

I find the Habs to be very soft. Although Ward was outstanding last night, there was barely any traffic in front of him, and a goalie of that magnitude will make the first save without a screen the majority of the time. I personally like Price for the future, but I'd have confidence in Halak as well. In the off season, if I couldn't sign both of them to a reasonable contract, I'd trade one of them and try to bring a good forward with size in. St-Louis seems to be in the market for a young starting goaltender, and I'd love David Backes to come back. Although he's not having a good year, his goal production is down, he's a right handed shot and I feel he would play well alongside Cammy and Pleks if we re-sign him. Although, which ever goalie they trade, I'd want them to go to the Western Conference because there will be so much comparison if they every burn us in the playoffs. Backes has one more year at 2.5m, and I feel he would be better than AK46 so inconsistency is getting to me.

I'd also look at trying to get RFA David Clarkson from the Devils somehow. If the Devils choose to re-sign Ilya, they will have to offer a ton of money and with Parise contract coming up in a year or two, they might not have the money to re-sign Clarkson. He's be awesome on the third line with Moen and maybe Malholtra. Clarkson has played in Devils system that geared towards defense just like Jacques Martin. Who knows, this is all wishful thinking, but I feel that the Habs need to bring in guys that finish their checks, not necessary are pure fighters, but can change the momentum of the game and play gritty with an edge

[leafs_rock_go_mccabe]

Some short-term solutions at center (assuming we aren't able to resign Plekanec) could be Matthew Lombardi or Matt Cullen. After Plekanec and Marleau (who both might be too expensive for us) the depth at center drops off drastically. I would have been in favour of dealing Plekanec at the trade deadline and looking for a short-term solution while Maxwell was groomed. We are going nowhere with 2 centers (Gomez and Tomas) who are so small. For the money we might end up paying them both... Is the investment worth it? Can Maxwell possibly be a top-6 center someday?

[A-K-46]

resign plek 22.5 mill for 5 years

resign metro 2 mill for 2 years

resign pouliot 6 mill for 3 years

resign moore 2 years @1 mill per

resign bergeron 3 years @ 1.5 mill per

resign darche 2 years @ 700k

qualifying offers for desharnais, trotter, wyman, lapierre, pyatt, carle

contract extension for markov 5 years 30 mill (cap friendly hossa contarct)

contract extension to georges 4 years 10 mill

resign price 3 years @ 2.5 mill per

*resign halak 3 years @3 mill per

*trade halak, midteir prospect, 2nd round pick to chicago for seabrook

trade kosty bros and spacek to florida for horton and a 3rd

trade hamrlik to anyone for a pick

sign hamhuis 4 years @ 4 mill per

sign biron 2 years @ 1 mill per

Cammalleri(6)-Plekanec(4.5)-Horton(4)

Pouliot(2)-Gomez(7.357)-Gionta(5)

Moore(1)-Metropolit(1)-Moen(1.5)

Bergeron(1.5)-Lapierre(700k)-Darche(700k)

Markov(5.75)-O'byrne(950k)

Seabrook(3.5)-Hamhuis(4)

Gill(2.25)-Georges(1.3)

Price(2.5)

Biron(1)

Caphit: 56.55 mil

[gunner_canadian]

When it comes to this thread I do not speculate. I just state where the Habs are at now. Nothing more and nothing less. Looking at it Habs seem to be in a little bit of trouble Cap wise with not much wiggle room and many spots to fill. Here is where we are at as of today 3 Apr 10

CAMMALLERI(6.000) - GOMEZ(7.357) - GIONTA(5.000)

PACIORETTY(0.875) - XXXXX - A. KOSTITSYN(3.250)

MOEN(1.500) - XXXXX - XXXXX

XXXXX - XXXXX - XXXXX

MARKOV(5.750) - SPACEK(3.833)

HAMRLIK(5.500) - GORGES(1.100)

GILL(2.25) - O'BYRNE(0.942)

XXXXX

XXXXX

XXXXX XXXXX XXXXX

Team Salary Cap is at 43.357 Mil

BuyOuts/Waivers is at 0.500 Mil

Total CAP Hit is at 43.857 Mil

Cap Room is 12.943 Million to sign 11 players

[jst-onge]

I think I would put adds in papers across the country, looking for hockey player willing to knock opponsent on their butt skate hard every minute of every game pass the puck on the tape and shot the puck whenever possible and go get rebounds. And did I mention get paid hansomly to do so.

[LeafsDog]

This works with the cap, but I'm sure some of the players would want a higher salary:

1. Somehow trade Spacek, Hamrlik, Moen, Sk, and Gill for picks and David Clarkson

2. Resign our players (contracts are below)

3. Sign some of the players i have below

Lineup:

Pouliot (1.2mil) -Gomez (7.357142mil) -Gionta (5mil)

Cammy (6mil) -Plekanec(4.5mil) -AK(3.25mil)

Modin(2mil)- Moore(1mil) - Torres(2mil)

Boogard(1mil)- Clarkson(1.5mil) - Lapierre (0.5mil)

Markov (5.75mil)- O'Byrne (0.941666mil)

Michaelik (4mil) - Hamhuis (4 mil )

Subban (0.875mil)- Gorges (1.1 mil)

Price (2.0 mil)

Halak ( 1.775 mil)

Cap space: 1.051m

Comments?

[LeafsDog]

On hockey night in Canada, Glenn Healy said the cap might go up 900k

http://spectorshockey.net/index.php?option...rs&Itemid=4

this would be good for the habs

also here:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nhl/features/ru...atures%2frumors

these are rumors though

[istreamradio]

the habs have about 14 million to spend on alot of players. I've heard rumours of the cap going up $900,000, so then it's roughly 15 mil. here's what I think will go down. Again, this is all speculative and just for fun.

We need to resign Pouliot and Plecky. Lets be honest, Pouliot isn't going to demand 803,000 on the open market. Someone will offer him money to play for them. He's too good. My bet is someone may offer 2 million for him (I mean stajan in calgary got 4 million!). Honest guess is that he gets 2 mill for 3 years. Sergei will probably get the same, like it or not. Dominic Moore hopfully will demand 1.5 million, but lets be honest, it may take 2 to sign him too. Metro we can probably get for the same he's making now, 1 million, and that's a much better deal. So sorry, I like him, but we got to let Moore go. Same with Lappy. 2 million is too much. Plekanec could get as much as 6 on the open market, but here's to hoping we get a home discount of a frontloaded 5.5 cap hit with incentives and a no-trade clause. that's 10.5, leaving 4.5 for other stuff. You may not agree, but I'm keeping Price. I'd LOVE to keep them both, but thinking long term, I'm signing Price for 3.5 million a year for 4 years. Sign Biron as the backup for 1 million. Call up Subban to be our Power-Play quarterback. Now, here's where you're going to hate me. We need money to improve our team. So we're going to trade Halak. But not just Halak: we're going to trade Andrei Markov too. Why? I'm confident Subban can quarterback a powerplay just as well as Drew Doughty can in LA. That's putting alot of faith in a young d-man, but I honestly think he can. We can get a great deal back for Markov. We simply cannot trade Gomez, Hammer, or Spacek, even if we'd love to, because of their contracts.

Who wants them. A number of teams would love them. But the Flyers and Stars are the front runners. Half of me says trade Pleky and Halak for Lecavalier and Nitty, and damn the critics ha. The Stars makes the most sense. I could see a deal working Markov and Halak for Jamie Benn, Robidas, and a second round pick. We get two great players, it's a realistic deal, and we save a boatload of $.

Benn: 821,667

Gomez: 7.3

Cammy: 6.

Gionta: 5.

Ak46: 3.25

Pleky: 5.5

Moen: 1.5

Sergei: 2

Pouliot: 2

Metro: 1

Darche: 700,000

Trotter: 875,000

Robidas: 3.3

Hammer: 5.5

Spacek: 3.8

Gill: 2.25

Gorges: 1.1

O'Byrne: 941,000

Subban: 875,000

Price: 3.5

Biron: 1

Total

roughly 58 million, so we're a shade over. Which we are technically right now.

The Lineup:

Gionta, Gomez, Pouliot

Cammy, Pleky, AK46

Benn, Trotter, Sergei

Darche, Moen, Metro

Robidas, Hammer

Spacek, Gorges

Subban, Gill

O'Byrne

Price

Biron

We'll have a healthy, dangerous team, just like we have this year. The top three lines can score all they want. Trotter and Benn are HUGE improvements on that third line. Benn adds size and a huge potential: much more then james neal (who I know everyone would compare them too. They're the same size by the way; 6'2, 185). That third line is hard working. Biron adds experiance: a vet who can mature Price. The d, even without Markov, is improved slightly by Subban and Robidas. I like this team. I don't LOVE it. It's not the Capitals ha, but they'll compete for first in the northeast if they stay healthy. 2nd or 3rd in the east is not out of the question. The only thing they lack is size, like this years club. Benn will help that alittle. Above all, this is a realistic team. It's not crazy, just realistic.

[ophone]

I know, there is the salary cap, but I would engage as many Canadian, preferably Quebecker (French speaking, English speaking and of whatever colour) players, so the people from Montréal and even the whole province of Québec could identify themselves with the team.

But this is be just a daydream. Professional sports were one of the first things involved in mondialisation.

[ChitownHabby]

2 players I'd go after via trade: Tomas Kaberle and Dustin Penner.

Re-sign: Plekanec, Halak

Trade away/Let go: Glen Metropolit, Dominic Moore, Maxim Lapierre, Hal Gill, Jaroslav Spacek and....Carey Price.

How:

EDM:

Carey Price

Jaroslav Spacek

MTL:

Dustin Penner

2nd Round draft pick 2010

TOR:

2nd round draft pick 2010 (Ours)

James Wyman

Shawn Belle

MTL:

Tomas Kaberle

Roster:

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Andrei

Pouliot - Gomez - Gionta

Sergei - Penner - Pacioretty

Moen - Pyatt - White

Markov - O'Byrne

Hamrlik - Subban

Kaberle - Gorges

Halak

Desjardins/Sanford

BTW, I realize how ridiculous the above trades are...

[LeafsDog]

2 players I'd go after via trade: Tomas Kaberle and Dustin Penner.

Re-sign: Plekanec, Halak

Trade away/Let go: Glen Metropolit, Dominic Moore, Maxim Lapierre, Hal Gill, Jaroslav Spacek and....Carey Price.

How:

EDM:

Carey Price

Jaroslav Spacek

MTL:

Dustin Penner

2nd Round draft pick 2010

TOR:

2nd round draft pick 2010 (Ours)

James Wyman

Shawn Belle

MTL:

Tomas Kaberle

Roster:

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Andrei

Pouliot - Gomez - Gionta

Sergei - Penner - Pacioretty

Moen - Pyatt - White

Markov - O'Byrne

Hamrlik - Subban

Kaberle - Gorges

Halak

Desjardins/Sanford

BTW, I realize how ridiculous the above trades are...

the first trade is fine, but the second trade mehh... Brian Burke wants A LOT for him.

I know I sound like a broken record, but their are many good D-man that we could sign in free agency this year.

[dso67]

dustin penner? he is as soft as butter. for a guy his size and for his money, you could find someone way better.

[V-hab]

I am not a big fan of trading Hamrlik and/or Spacek. However, I do understand that to better the team going forward means losing some of the players we have relied on, and seem to be a step slower.

I have been reading on this board the suggestion of acquiring Horton . Then yesterday I read where Horton got into a fight with his asst. coach, not sure why, he left breaking his stick over the boards.

Following up with the suggestion of acquiring Horton ,what if the “Package” addressed our defensive needs as well. While this is still a work in progress, I was thinking to add Spacek ( provided his NTC would allow)for Bryan McCabe, he is 34 so it’s really a short term solution. Also, Florida has been trying to unload his contract with his name coming up in possible trades often. He has most of the skills we are looking for. A cap hit of $4,150.million for the next year. The Spacek contract might be a out for them.

ASSETS: Can log an abundance of minutes and feasts on the power play. Is extremely aggressive in the defensive zone. Has a great shot from the point and displays a lot of leadership qualities.

FLAWS: Has a propensity to make mistakes in the defensive zone and take too many bad penalties. Can be distracted by criticism when he struggles in pressure situations

The Criticism might be a problem here in Montreal with the media although the fact he has one year left on his contract makes it a low risk and possible high reward. So far he has 8 goals and 42 pts total, he is a better than average at skating and enforcing at 6’2”. Has 81 penalty minutes. The one year contract gives us a safety-net should he not work out.

The 10/11 defense might look like this. ( I know there are some names missing but I have traded them somewhere else in my master plan) Just a thought and as I stated earlier, It’s a work in progress. At least it something to think on to bring the financials back in line.

Markov – Babchuk

McCabe- P K Suban

Gill –O’byrne

They could resign Mara or pickup Jay Leach as a UFA to be a spare. Leach plays RD and LD with a low cap hit.

Any thoughts? remember Horton is part of the 'package'

[V-hab]

I am not a big fan of trading Hamrlik and/or Spacek. However, I do understand that to better the team going forward means losing some of the players we have relied on, and seem to be a step slower.

I have been reading on this board the suggestion of acquiring Horton . Then yesterday I read where Horton got into a fight with his asst. coach, not sure why, he left breaking his stick over the boards.

Following up with the suggestion of acquiring Horton ,what if the “Package” addressed our defensive needs as well. While this is still a work in progress, I was thinking to add Spacek ( provided his NTC would allow)for Bryan McCabe, he is 34 so it’s really a short term solution. Also, Florida has been trying to unload his contract with his name coming up in possible trades often. He has most of the skills we are looking for. A cap hit of $4,150.million for the next year. The Spacek contract might be a out for them.

ASSETS: Can log an abundance of minutes and feasts on the power play. Is extremely aggressive in the defensive zone. Has a great shot from the point and displays a lot of leadership qualities.

FLAWS: Has a propensity to make mistakes in the defensive zone and take too many bad penalties. Can be distracted by criticism when he struggles in pressure situations

The Criticism might be a problem here in Montreal with the media although the fact he has one year left on his contract makes it a low risk and possible high reward. So far he has 8 goals and 42 pts total, he is a better than average at skating and enforcing at 6’2”. Has 81 penalty minutes. The one year contract gives us a safety-net should he not work out.

The 10/11 defense might look like this. ( I know there are some names missing but I have traded them somewhere else in my master plan) Just a thought and as I stated earlier, It’s a work in progress. At least it something to think on to bring the financials back in line.

Markov – Babchuk

McCabe- P K Suban

Gill –O’byrne

They could resign Mara or pickup Jay Leach as a UFA to be a spare. Leach plays RD and LD with a low cap hit.

Any thoughts? remember Horton is part of the 'package'

Just got around to looking up the contract restrictions making the Horton McCabe trade as not realistic.

Horton has a NTC starting July 1,2010 and McCabe has a complete NMC. So it’s back to the drawing board with Penner. Too bad, I was warming to the idea of McCabe.

[swimmerpuck]

I am not a big fan of trading Hamrlik and/or Spacek. However, I do understand that to better the team going forward means losing some of the players we have relied on, and seem to be a step slower.

I have been reading on this board the suggestion of acquiring Horton . Then yesterday I read where Horton got into a fight with his asst. coach, not sure why, he left breaking his stick over the boards.

Following up with the suggestion of acquiring Horton ,what if the “Package” addressed our defensive needs as well. While this is still a work in progress, I was thinking to add Spacek ( provided his NTC would allow)for Bryan McCabe, he is 34 so it’s really a short term solution. Also, Florida has been trying to unload his contract with his name coming up in possible trades often. He has most of the skills we are looking for. A cap hit of $4,150.million for the next year. The Spacek contract might be a out for them.

ASSETS: Can log an abundance of minutes and feasts on the power play. Is extremely aggressive in the defensive zone. Has a great shot from the point and displays a lot of leadership qualities.

FLAWS: Has a propensity to make mistakes in the defensive zone and take too many bad penalties. Can be distracted by criticism when he struggles in pressure situations

The Criticism might be a problem here in Montreal with the media although the fact he has one year left on his contract makes it a low risk and possible high reward. So far he has 8 goals and 42 pts total, he is a better than average at skating and enforcing at 6’2”. Has 81 penalty minutes. The one year contract gives us a safety-net should he not work out.

The 10/11 defense might look like this. ( I know there are some names missing but I have traded them somewhere else in my master plan) Just a thought and as I stated earlier, It’s a work in progress. At least it something to think on to bring the financials back in line.

Markov – Babchuk

McCabe- P K Suban

Gill –O’byrne

They could resign Mara or pickup Jay Leach as a UFA to be a spare. Leach plays RD and LD with a low cap hit.

Any thoughts? remember Horton is part of the 'package'

I tend to look at proposed D-men lineups with this question in mind. What does our D look like if Markov is injured again? That lineup without Markov would scare me.

[V-hab]

I tend to look at proposed D-men lineups with this question in mind. What does our D look like if Markov is injured again? That lineup without Markov would scare me.

I don’t disagree entirely, and you’re point has merit. However, one could also question, ‘what if Markov were not in the lineup ‘ with today’s available D-men . Unfortunately, we all found that out this season. Without Markov most lineups regardless of support, would be weakened.

If McCabe was available ( I know now he is not ) he is a improvement over Hanrlik and Spacek on many levels. ( PP shot and skating with a attitude) Having Suban paired with him would be a mentor for his first year. O’Byrne with Gill is a better pairing as they both play a defensive type of game and O’Byrne can skate much faster than Gill. ( last night O’Byrne blocked 10 shots and 5-6 good hits) .

The weak link might be Babchuk, not because of his skill set, my concern would be more towards team attitude. This is the second time he walked away from Carolina to jump to the KHL . His shot from the point is equal to, or better than Bergerons’ and at 6’5” he has great reach.

My thinking was to have two Dee lines as a offensive threat forcing the opposition to play the half boards closer to our dee leaving our forwards more room to run their plays. The point is, our defense is a question mark at the best of times, and there will be a change, Suban will most likely make the habs next season so someone has to go.

[blaines1]

I would trade BGL (if he waives) to the Rangers for Brasher (both lost causes but can save on the buyout)

I would also sign and trade Halek for a top 6 forward, then sign Marty Biron for backup

I would try and trade AK and SK for another top 6 guy

I would sign UFA RW Evgeny Artyukhin

I would try and re sign Moore

I would get rid of Hammer or Spacek for anything

Cammi Plek top 6

Top 6 Gomez Gio

Pouliot Moore Artyukhin

Brasher Lapp Moen

Pyatt

Patches

Markov OByrne

Spacek Subban

Gorges Weber/Carle

Gill

Price

Biron

[jzun00]

I would let MAB and Mara walk. Weber in as the 7th d-man

I would let Metro walk

I would resign:

SKos; Pleks; Moore; Halak; and Price; Pouliotte (I think he is a RFA)

[Vladimer-Kholokov]

Trade:

Boston:

Markov

Montreal

Bos 1st and Tor 1st round draft pick 2010

Edmonton:

Hamerlik, Price, Pacioretty, Plekanec, (Hoping they sign him before he is free agent. (If he does not sign, MTL gives them our 2nd 2010 rounder) Maxwell, Lapierre, Carle

Montreal:

EDM 1st round pick 2010, Horcoff, Khabibulin, Souray

With these trades, we will still be up agianst the cap but be building for the future as well as Endmonton

Cammalleri (6.0 caphit) Horcoff (5.5) A. Kostitsyn (3.25)

Pouliot (1.2) - Gomez (7.357) - Gionta (5.0)

Pyatt (0.875) - White (0.850) - S. Kostitsyn (0.850)

Moen (1.5) - Moore (1.3) - Bergeron (1.2)

Souray (5.4)- O'Byrne (1.1)

Spacek (3.833) - Gorges (1.1)

Gill (2.5) - Subban (0.875)

Halak (1.3) put in bonus

Khabibulin (3.75)

Cap hit = 54.17

[jst-onge]

Being a new GM to the team I would make very few chances. Sign Plek, Moore, Price, Halak, Lapiere, SK . With the exception to Pleks there will be no real increase in cap. To get rid of BGL contract trade him and a draft for future concideration, most likely 4th round and BGL for 7th or 8th. I know it's a loss but it gives 1.5mil in cap.

Patches- Moore- Sk

Moen- Laps- Pyatt

AK- Pleks- Cammy

Pouliot-Gomez- Gionta

Markov-O'Bynre

Gill- Subban

Hamirlik- Gorges

Expendable players Spacek

UFA's MAB, Mara, Metro.

If Desharnas, Trotter, Olivier, and White inprove over this year it opens up trading either them or contract rich players who may bring more value back. Unfortunately one of the two goalies has to go because if we can sign both to multi year the value will be there.

[LeafsDog]

Trade:

Boston:

Markov

Montreal

Bos 1st and Tor 1st round draft pick 2010

Edmonton:

Hamerlik, Price, Pacioretty, Plekanec, (Hoping they sign him before he is free agent. (If he does not sign, MTL gives them our 2nd 2010 rounder) Maxwell, Lapierre, Carle

Montreal:

EDM 1st round pick 2010, Horcoff, Khabibulin, Souray

With these trades, we will still be up agianst the cap but be building for the future as well as Endmonton

Cammalleri (6.0 caphit) Horcoff (5.5) A. Kostitsyn (3.25)

Pouliot (1.2) - Gomez (7.357) - Gionta (5.0)

Pyatt (0.875) - White (0.850) - S. Kostitsyn (0.850)

Moen (1.5) - Moore (1.3) - Bergeron (1.2)

Souray (5.4)- O'Byrne (1.1)

Spacek (3.833) - Gorges (1.1)

Gill (2.5) - Subban (0.875)

Halak (1.3) put in bonus

Khabibulin (3.75)

Cap hit = 54.17

I like our future however, our already terrible defence gets worse and we get horcoff, who is a 3rd line centre getting paid 5.5 million.

so that means we have 2 grossly overpaid centres

[utreder]

We need more size, our players can't keep working hard when they're getting ground down in the corners and beaten in every ***** puck battle.

[leafs_rock_go_mccabe]

We need more size, our players can't keep working hard when they're getting ground down in the corners and beaten in every ***** puck battle.

Andrew Ladd out of Chicago.

Scott Hartnell out of Philadelphia.

Couple of guys who I think would fit nicely in Montreal. Toughness! Hard to play against. Players who work well in your top-6 and your bottom-6. These are the type of forwards I would be interested in this summer. Not to mention acquiring some competent d-men... And a couple who shoot right-handed.