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Not really a "rumor", the rumor seems to be the Flyers going after a young goalie and then the writer infers Price would be a great fit. He also doesn't mention that the Flyers would be willing to trade JVR just that's what the Habs may ask instead of the veteran the Flyers would want to give up.

It's plausible that one of our goalies go to Philly though.

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Not really a "rumor", the rumor seems to be the Flyers going after a young goalie and then the writer infers Price would be a great fit. He also doesn't mention that the Flyers would be willing to trade JVR just that's what the Habs may ask instead of the veteran the Flyers would want to give up.

It's plausible that one of our goalies go to Philly though.

well, i found it here, and it was in the "rumor section" ;)

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Yeah. The rumor seems to be that the Flyers will go after a young goalie. Price makes sense but that seems be the extent of it.

yup, the flyers will go after a young goalie, and price is mentioned as a possibility. jvr and giroux are mentioned as a possible return. imo, it's rumor just as any other rumor. and it makes much more sense than the most of eklund's fantasies ;)

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yup, the flyers will go after a young goalie, and price is mentioned as a possibility. jvr and giroux are mentioned as a possible return. imo, it's rumor just as any other rumor. and it makes much more sense than the most of eklund's fantasies ;)

Well the difference IMO is that the writer implies he talked to someone in the organization who would know and that person told him they were going to go after a young goalie, which makes it a rumor and then he (the writer, not the source) went on to suggest Price would make sense given his age and experience but that sans source would be conjecture at best.

I'm not trying to condemn you for posting it but just trying to avoid people reading too much into it. It makes sense, although the writer seems unsure that the Flyers would give up JVR or Giroux, seems they'd want to send us a veteran back in his mind.

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How depressing it is with this salary cap system that we have to trade our young and promising goaltender. Regarding the rumor with Price going to the flyers I think that it has no legs at all because if Philly were interested cquiring a young netminder then the flyers would have addressed that issue before the trading deadline. Personally I would keep Price over Halak and bring up Desjardins from the minors but that is just my opinion.

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How depressing it is with this salary cap system that we have to trade our young and promising goaltender.

I think it's wonderful. Think of the parity in the NHL compared to say MLB where the Yankees or Red Sox can basically buy a title. We have 2 strong goalies, and weaknesses elsewhere. If we want to become stronger in another area, it only makes sense that we would have to weaken ourselves in another area.

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I think it's wonderful. Think of the parity in the NHL compared to say MLB where the Yankees or Red Sox can basically buy a title. We have 2 strong goalies, and weaknesses elsewhere. If we want to become stronger in another area, it only makes sense that we would have to weaken ourselves in another area.

+1

salary cap makes competition much more interesting, especially nhl type of the salary cap (without the luxury tax).

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Well the difference IMO is that the writer implies he talked to someone in the organization who would know and that person told him they were going to go after a young goalie, which makes it a rumor and then he (the writer, not the source) went on to suggest Price would make sense given his age and experience but that sans source would be conjecture at best.

I'm not trying to condemn you for posting it but just trying to avoid people reading too much into it. It makes sense, although the writer seems unsure that the Flyers would give up JVR or Giroux, seems they'd want to send us a veteran back in his mind.

i belive the most of rumors are just like this one. i doubt that gms often go to the media and say:we will offer player "x" to team "y" and ask them for player "z". they usually say: we are looking for top 4 defender and then journalists try to figure what trade would look like.

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If price were to be traded I would demand a boat load back if not keep him and halak. Same with Halak I would demand quite a bit back.

For price starting bids would be Van Riems in philly, Seabrook in Chicago, Send Price, AK and our first for Edmonton first overall......etc

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Rumour or Rumours they are not fact, no they someones whishful thinking maybe, I would not make that trade because it would leave us weak at goal and what it would bring back would identify your weaknesses. We have 2 RFA not UFA we can qualify them both with 10% rise because they split 50-50 on games arbitrators won't give one starting goalie pay. We can continue to have 2 good goalies for at least 2 more years.

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Rumour or Rumours they are not fact, no they someones whishful thinking maybe, I would not make that trade because it would leave us weak at goal and what it would bring back would identify your weaknesses. We have 2 RFA not UFA we can qualify them both with 10% rise because they split 50-50 on games arbitrators won't give one starting goalie pay. We can continue to have 2 good goalies for at least 2 more years.

I also believe that price lacks arbitration rights, so he more or less has to take what we offer him. Halak is the problem, because if he takes us to arbitration, we're gonna get nailed.

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I also believe that price lacks arbitration rights, so he more or less has to take what we offer him. Halak is the problem, because if he takes us to arbitration, we're gonna get nailed.

You're correct on Price's lack of arbitration rights but I really don't see us getting nailed in arbitration by a goalie who has yet to play 50 games in any season as a pro. Halak and Price should both be comfortably under 3 unless we lock them up longer term and by up more expensive years IMO.

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I get to see JVR alot down here near philly, and let me tell you...not that impressed. All the habs "fans" are booing Price and getting mad because he isn't developing super fast: those same fans are going to HATE JVR. He hasn't developed at all. Coming out of the draft, everyone hyped him as a power forward, and that's like calling latendresse a power forward when he was a hab. He just wasn't. Not in the least. Jvr hasn't filled out his body yet. He looks like an average 19 or 20 year old kid, not a 21 year old hockey player. He's got raw talent, but forwards are supposed to progress at a MUCH faster rate then goaltenders, and he's just not there. If you boo price (I certainly do not, I love all the habs) then you'll definetly be one of the drunks in the greys booing JVR. His lack of progress is the reason his name is brought up. The Flyers would LOVE for us to think he's amazing and trade for him. LOVE to. Hartnall is, quit honestly, nothing special. He's had one good year in his career (last year) and that's skewing everyones opinion. My dad, a DIE-HARD flyers fan, hates him, even after loving him last year. He's pointless. Think sean avery only worse. And word is he's a cancer. The flyer fans know they could have had Halak or Price for Giroux back in december and blew it and now they're kicking themselves. Giroux looks good, but nowhere near the 30-40 goal scorer everyone wanted with him. he's a 15-25 guy. Not bad, yet not great.

Carter is alittle different. He's got talent. He's actually pretty big and, on rare instances, play big. but he's a goal scorer and a bigger center. He's used to playing some pretty big games. He's well liked by the fans and coaching staff and media here. From what I understand, he likes to party, maybe too much. Yet he is one of a handful of players the fans are really loyal to and actually like on this team. Richard's act is getting old, the goaltending has always been bad, and other then pronger, the team seems very stale. I like Carter. But I still wouldn't trade price for him. Maybe Halak. But not Price. And I wouldn't trade Halak straight up. It would have to be a pick and Carter going our way for Halak and a few contracts, maybe (hopefully) Hamerlik. We can't sign everyone. Carter coming here means Plecky is gone. That's a given. Do we want that? But do we want to pay Plecky 5-6 million? He's worth it, but we don't have it. So it's rough. Again, these are just my opinions so don't rip me a new one for them ok? I know the second I wrote trade halak I might as well never post on here again hahaha.

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I get to see JVR alot down here near philly, and let me tell you...not that impressed. All the habs "fans" are booing Price and getting mad because he isn't developing super fast: those same fans are going to HATE JVR. He hasn't developed at all. Coming out of the draft, everyone hyped him as a power forward, and that's like calling latendresse a power forward when he was a hab. He just wasn't. Not in the least. Jvr hasn't filled out his body yet. He looks like an average 19 or 20 year old kid, not a 21 year old hockey player. He's got raw talent, but forwards are supposed to progress at a MUCH faster rate then goaltenders, and he's just not there. If you boo price (I certainly do not, I love all the habs) then you'll definetly be one of the drunks in the greys booing JVR. His lack of progress is the reason his name is brought up. The Flyers would LOVE for us to think he's amazing and trade for him. LOVE to. Hartnall is, quit honestly, nothing special. He's had one good year in his career (last year) and that's skewing everyones opinion. My dad, a DIE-HARD flyers fan, hates him, even after loving him last year. He's pointless. Think sean avery only worse. And word is he's a cancer. The flyer fans know they could have had Halak or Price for Giroux back in december and blew it and now they're kicking themselves. Giroux looks good, but nowhere near the 30-40 goal scorer everyone wanted with him. he's a 15-25 guy. Not bad, yet not great.

Carter is alittle different. He's got talent. He's actually pretty big and, on rare instances, play big. but he's a goal scorer and a bigger center. He's used to playing some pretty big games. He's well liked by the fans and coaching staff and media here. From what I understand, he likes to party, maybe too much. Yet he is one of a handful of players the fans are really loyal to and actually like on this team. Richard's act is getting old, the goaltending has always been bad, and other then pronger, the team seems very stale. I like Carter. But I still wouldn't trade price for him. Maybe Halak. But not Price. And I wouldn't trade Halak straight up. It would have to be a pick and Carter going our way for Halak and a few contracts, maybe (hopefully) Hamerlik. We can't sign everyone. Carter coming here means Plecky is gone. That's a given. Do we want that? But do we want to pay Plecky 5-6 million? He's worth it, but we don't have it. So it's rough. Again, these are just my opinions so don't rip me a new one for them ok? I know the second I wrote trade halak I might as well never post on here again hahaha.

Great post, I agree, I too say to trade Halak, I just see Price becoming a star in a few years and we would be kicking ourselves. Halak is hot now, hopehe keeps it up in the playoffs and we can in turn ask for a good return.

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Halak+Maxwell+4th round pick 2011 for Riemsdyk+2nd round pick 2010

the flyers don't have 2nd in 2010. it went to anaheim in the pronger deal.

there were a lot of topics on the hf boards discussing the habs vs. flyers deals and two were accepted by the majority of both fanbases:

jvr

for

halak & pacioretty

and

jvr & coburn

for

halak, pacioretty & 1st round pick.

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Interesting cause I like the first trade offer alot, but im not sure if JVR would end up being another latendresse for us playing on the 4th line/lazy.

you can't be sure in anything. maybe halak end up being another huet ;)

i like both trades. coburn would be a great addition since hamrlik is gonna get traded due to cap issues.

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I wouldn't trade Price unless we were getting a high 1st round pic for him. It would be ridiculous to give up on the kid at this point, I don't think there's a GM out there who wouldn't take a chance on him (if they didn't already have a young future #1 already in their system). They might not be willing to give up a draft pic, but just suggesting Price might be on the trading block will have GM's around the league talking.

I've been a huge supporter of Halak since '06, believing he should've been brought up in stead of Price. Not cos I think Price isn't NHL material, but I'm a big believer in the farm system. It's there for a reason, to try and fix their game so they are ready for the NHL. Price didn't have that luxury, he was brought up to the NHL after only a post season run. We all know now that mistakes were made with Price.

But that doesn't mean his career is over... I believe it only truly started this season. Despite the stats, I feel Price has had a much better season than he had when he first joined. Not to take away from what Halak has done this season, but I feel in the long run, Price will have the better career.

So, unless a team's willing to give up a #1 for him, I would keep him. My gawd, the kid will only be 23 next season... Hiller (duckland) only started to shine at 27, MA Fluery was (I believe) 25 when he started to be a true consistent #1 (earned it, wasn't #1 by default).

I don't believe we've even begun to see Price's full potential or even Halak's. So letting either of them go for peanuts would be a terrible decision.

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