Nick-Habs4Life Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I heard this question going around a lot today on Sportscentre and on the radio. Which would be a bigger accomplishment? (Let's assume Philly wins Friday night) The Habs overcoming adversity and coming back from 3-1 versus the Caps and beating the Pens coming back from 3-2 OR Flyers coming back from 3-0 versus the Bruins and become only the fourth team to ever accomplish this feat. -------------------------------- In my opinion, I would have to give it to the Habs. If they would have been the favorites in each of their series then maybe I would have given it to the Flyers but being HEAVY underdogs and beating the President's Trophy winners and the defending Stanley Cup champs and coming back twice in both series AND winning game 7 in both series on the road, it certainly made history and something that may not ever happen again by any other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innis_Mor Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 A comeback (by anyone) against the Bruins? It's not even in the same class!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtl1010 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 HABS all the way. The flyer thing is nice but the we had two upsets, against the best and second best teams, including one that was down 3-1 so it's not big difference, and part of the upset included shutting down Ovie, Backstrom, Semin, Green, Crosby, and Malkin No question for me, its the HABS upsets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubby31 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 No question for me, its the HABS upsets Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawker_mtl Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 If it was just a matter of the Habs upsetting two very heavy favorites I might give it to the Flyers. But the fact that the Habs did it against the top 3 players on the planet and shut them down with authority puts those upsets on an extra level. Add to that the fact that they came back from 3-1 and 3-2 deficits in those series and it's on an even higher level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfrancis Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 We came from a 3-1 deficit to stun the best team in the league this season. We beat the defending stanley cup champions in a humiliating fashion. Philly came back to push a game 7 with the Bruins. Not even close, Habs all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bailey1 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 The only reason we're comparing in the first place is due to the fact that the leafs did it first, and it's the only way TSN can get a word in about the leafs during our amazing post-season run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habcore Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Two game seven wins against the 2 power house teams of the east for sure, plus Philly hasn't done anything yet. If they win game seven then it will be an accomplishment if not then it means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawker_mtl Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Keep in mind too that we're talking about a 7 seed making a comeback against a 6 seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_rudeboy Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I think this thread should be in the "Around the League" Sub Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I don't think Philly should have gone down 0 - 3 in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tavec Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 After we beat the Caps I thought we were playing the best hockey of the year. After game six of the penguins series I had a very strong feeling we were going to beat the pens and move on. The flyers really havent been tested in terms of playing a good team. New Jersey was terrible in the playoffs and Broadur really started to look his age. The Bruins are fading fast and with injuries I would have to say the flyers come back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rondalsf Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Habs of course. Plus I have really enjoyed our team proving all the so called "experts" wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick-Habs4Life Posted May 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I think this thread should be in the "Around the League" Sub Forum. Why? It involves the Habs and not two other teams in the league. Around the league has to do with anything other then the Habs, this topic has to do with the Habs. I may be wrong but I think this topic belongs here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColRouleBleu Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Why? It involves the Habs and not two other teams in the league. Around the league has to do with anything other then the Habs, this topic has to do with the Habs. I may be wrong but I think this topic belongs here. It does for the reason you stated, we're keeping it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMtl Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Great question! In our hearts, what our Habs have done will be remembered for a long time. I kind of see the writing on the wall, however. I've always felt that the media has never given our team/city an even break. Right now, it's unavoidable, that the media has to shine a light on the Habs accomplishments - it sticks out like a sore thumb! But I see it now, if Phil takes the series - the media hype will be like the second coming. True that winning 4 straight (if it happens) is an incredible feat but as one of my fellow posters has already eluded to a 7th seed seed taking out a 6th seed would be easier to contemplate than an 8th seed taking out the President Cup champs and the defending Stanley Cup champs. All we'd have to do is look at the Vegas odds on these 2 instances and the answer is there - what feat is greatest! PS: I'm fine with the media playing up someone else's accomplishments and let us fly under the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koreysecord1992 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I vote for the Habs simply because the first come-from-behind was against a heavily favored team, and it didn't end there; the Habs then went on to defeat the defending champions, a stacked and even more well-rounded team than the Caps (back from 3-2, no less). This is by no means meant to diminish Philly's feat: even if they don't win they deserve credit for coming back from 3-0 to tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee-X Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 The two aren't even close in my opinion. Just ask yourself: why is it that it's so rare for a team to come back from 0-3? Is it because it's so hard to win four games in a row? Nope, series sweeps happen all the time. It's only rare because good teams don't usually dig themselves into an 0-3 hole. Montreal had to earn victories against two heavily favoured teams on equal ground. That's pretty huge. Philidalphea's "accomplishment" is only possible because they did so badly to begin with. If they win tonight the only thing they've done is beat a #6 seed... they just had to overcome their own dumb mistakes to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathradio Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I'd say the Canadiens' upset of two teams who, between themselves, fielded three of the topmost players in the world. Not to down the Flyers but some comebacks from 0-3 could have been motivated by financial pressure on both teams involved. However, the first time that a team won a game 7 after coming back from a 0-3 trail might not have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs-24 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 we just knocked out the presidents trophys winners 33pts ahead of us, and then the stanley cup champions. the Flyers beating the Bruins a team they are even with isnt that big of a deal even if it is 4 in a row, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Win-the-cup Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 If the Flyers do it......I know they won't.......they would have to put an asterick beside the accomplishment. Rememebr.....their last game......it came on an hour after the Habbies.......showed the Flyers what they just did in a real game 7.......score 32 seconds into the game.......launch heat seeking missles at Fleury.......take a lead 4-0......chase the goaltender who won the Cup for the Pens team last year.......all before the Flyers took the ice........OH.......and it was in Mellonville to boot......I think this inspired the Flyers to do what they did to the Bruins that night.........in essence the Flyers were using Habbie magic to help them over the hump........ On Friday.....it will be different......The Flyers will have to dig deep within themselves to win number 4 in a row........I think they're missing that "extra energy" the Habbie fans are providing the team from all over the world........to make the magic happen What the Habbies have done this Spring will form part of the mystique of the Franchise.........for playoff hockey......... There were so many things the Habbies had to overcome to do what they did..........the Flyers are weak by comparison in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlaster_mtl Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 The Bruins are the largest collection of chokers ever assembled, so I would say knocking off Ovechkin and the Presidents Trophy winning Capitals and then Crosby and the defending Cup champion Penguins is more of an accomplishment than coming back from a 3-0 deficit to a 6th seeded team of choke artists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracie12 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Its a tough one, because in terms of actual 'feats' I think the habs are clearly the winners. I mean we not only had 1 major series upset but 2. The 3-1 comeback against the best team in the regular season was one for the ages. On the other hand, strictly on paper, the Flyers may accomplish something that has only been done 2 other times. I know people will say "well no 8th seed has ever come back and won when trailing 3-1 against the 1st seed" etc, but honestly, how many times has that even been a possibility? There have been many many many series that have gone 3-0, so the fact that only 2 teams have ever come back from a much larger sample size does make it pretty special. While I believe the Habs' accomplishment is greater and more impressive, I also believe that on paper, the flyers (should they do it - they haven't done anything yet) may have the bigger press in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Win-the-cup Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Its a tough one, because in terms of actual 'feats' I think the habs are clearly the winners. I mean we not only had 1 major series upset but 2. The 3-1 comeback against the best team in the regular season was one for the ages. On the other hand, strictly on paper, the Flyers may accomplish something that has only been done 2 other times. I know people will say "well no 8th seed has ever come back and won when trailing 3-1 against the 1st seed" etc, but honestly, how many times has that even been a possibility? There have been many many many series that have gone 3-0, so the fact that only 2 teams have ever come back from a much larger sample size does make it pretty special. While I believe the Habs' accomplishment is greater and more impressive, I also believe that on paper, the flyers (should they do it - they haven't done anything yet) may have the bigger press in the long run. You brought up a good point........History tends to be black and white.....to the point........forget the details.....type of thing........so in 50 years......if the Flyers did it.......the ability of the team they did it against would be long forgotten........the only fact put out....is that they did it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomeeb Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 we just knocked out the presidents trophys winners 33pts ahead of us, and then the stanley cup champions. the Flyers beating the Bruins a team they are even with isnt that big of a deal even if it is 4 in a row, Pretty much sums it up in a nutshell IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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