Guest Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 NHL G.M.'s are discussing changes to the shootout because they feel too many games were decided in that manner this season http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=323408 I like some of the ideas being considered in the article ( 4 on 4,,, then 3 on 3) and i might add that it may even make sense to have a quick siren at the 15 minute mark of the 3rd period ( if the game is tied) and begin 4 on 4 play at that point,,, followed by 3 on 3 for 5 minutes of O.T. That way the games remain the same length of time.If a goal is scored (within that 5 minutes till the end of the game) that ties things up,,,then immediately go to 4 on 4 play for remainder of game, followed by 3 on 3 in overtime,,, and then the shootout if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 My best solution would be five minutes of 4-on-4 OT followed by 5 minutes of 3-on-3 if needed. If it's still tied, then it's a tie. I hate the shootout and wish it a painful death. Outside of getting rid of it altogether, it needs to go to 5 shooters instead of 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 My best solution would be five minutes of 4-on-4 OT followed by 5 minutes of 3-on-3 if needed. If it's still tied, then it's a tie. I hate the shootout and wish it a painful death. Outside of getting rid of it altogether, it needs to go to 5 shooters instead of 3. It has worn off its initial appeal somewhat. It seems teams play for the tie these days ( especially late in the 3rd period ). Thats one of the reason's i suggested going to the 4 on 4 at the 15 min. mark of a tied game rather then wait for O.T. There's also the past discussion of awarding 3 points for a regulation win. That might spur teams into opening things up a little if they are desperate for those extra points to get back into a playoff race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfrancis Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 If they don't remove the shootout, at least make it 5 shooters. I hate the shootout, but I hate 3 player shootouts even more. Uggh. NHL Shootouts. Just makes me cringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathradio Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Give 10 minutes of overtime, 4-on-4, then go to a five-shooter shootout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Does anybody care for the Olympic shootout version,, where you can use the same guy over and over again ( after the 3rd shooter i beleive)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnym Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 My favorite solution : Win in regular time = 2 points Lose in overtime = 0 Lose in shootouts = 1 That would make great games within divisions, better hockey and a greater will to win it in overtime... since you don't want to give away a free point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Give 10 minutes of overtime, 4-on-4, then go to a five-shooter shootout. I think i would really like to see the 3 on 3 suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 My favorite solution : Win in regular time = 2 points Lose in overtime = 0 Lose in shootouts = 1 That would make great games within divisions, better hockey and a greater will to win it in overtime... since you don't want to give away a free point I'm not certain you would get that desired effect. It seems teams play for that extra point late in a game as it is. If they get zip for taking it to overtime,, then they might play that tight defensive game to take it to the shootout to guarantee that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee-X Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 My favorite solution : Win in regular time = 2 points Lose in overtime = 0 Lose in shootouts = 1 That would make great games within divisions, better hockey and a greater will to win it in overtime... since you don't want to give away a free point They don't want to give away a free point, it's true... but I bet their desire to not lose the extra point for making it to a shootout would be even stronger. As has been mentioned earlier, I say why not use both incentives at the same time? Regulation/OT win = 3 points Regulation/OT loss = 0 points Shootout win = 2 points Shootout loss = 1 point Doing it this way, both teams will have the incentive to play for the win before it goes to a shootout. Even if you win the shootout, you're still giving the other team a free point AND losing a point yourselves. As for the 3-on-3 overtime, I wouldn't hate it but I'm not a huge fan. At some point there just aren't enough players on the ice to really even call it hockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabGirlYVR Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 My suggestion? 3 points for a win in regulation, 2 points for an overtime win, 1 point for a tie or overtime loss... ...and get rid of the shootout completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDRESU Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 My suggestion? 3 points for a win in regulation, 2 points for an overtime win, 1 point for a tie or overtime loss... ...and get rid of the shootout completely. AGREE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA_Champion Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 A regulation win should be worth 3 points. I'm not exactly sure why they decuded some games should be worth 3 points, and some games 2. Did they think that the confusion would excite fans? Hae the shootout follow 5 minutes of 3 on 3 which follows 5 minutes of 4 on 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Does anybody care for the Olympic shootout version,, where you can use the same guy over and over again ( after the 3rd shooter i beleive)? I almost turned off the TV when I found out the new Olympic shootout rules. The Olympics took what sucks about shootouts (individuals deciding a team game) and multiplied that tenfold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 I almost turned off the TV when I found out the new Olympic shootout rules. The Olympics took what sucks about shootouts (individuals deciding a team game) and multiplied that tenfold. I didnt care for it either although,,,, i got a huge chuckle out of the Russians sending out OV, over and over again, despite the fact you could see on his face he didnt want the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteenIsThaFuture Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Here's a possible change to the shootout: Get rid of it Changes done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathradio Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Here's a possible change to the shootout: Get rid of it Changes done. How much 4-on-4 overtime do you want, as in playoffs? Or 5 minutes of 4-on-4 play? 10? 20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteenIsThaFuture Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 How much 4-on-4 overtime do you want, as in playoffs? Or 5 minutes of 4-on-4 play? 10? 20? I like the current format, 4 on 4's is just a way to speed up the game to appease the casual fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfrancis Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 I like the current format, 4 on 4's is just a way to speed up the game to appease the casual fan. So you're proposing 5 minutes of 4 on 4 and no shootout? Just trying to clear it up, because that sounds like a good plan to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteenIsThaFuture Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 So you're proposing 5 minutes of 4 on 4 and no shootout? Just trying to clear it up, because that sounds like a good plan to me. He asked me if I wanted to change the playoff format, I said no. In reg season, I'd like ten minutes of five on five play for overtime and no shootout. I'd also like a change to the point structure for this new system, but I won't get started on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 I like the format proposed: two-overtime "periods", the first four-on-four, the second three-on-three, followed by a shootout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfrancis Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 He asked me if I wanted to change the playoff format, I said no. In reg season, I'd like ten minutes of five on five play for overtime and no shootout. I'd also like a change to the point structure for this new system, but I won't get started on that. I agree on both accounts. don't touch playoff OT, and I agree with the 10 minute 5 on 5, but I don't think it'll ever happen. 5 minute 4 on 4 is probably as good as it'll get, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Not a fan of the loser point... It seems that some teams (like the last game of the season for the habs), are only playing for that point. I feel if you get rid of the loser point, then team and players will work harder to get the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathradio Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Would making playoff OT 4-on-4 make playoff OT worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteenIsThaFuture Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Not a fan of the loser point... It seems that some teams (like the last game of the season for the habs), are only playing for that point. I feel if you get rid of the loser point, then team and players will work harder to get the win. You're correct: http://www.behindthenethockey.com/2010/1/2...lay-for-the-tie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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