captkrunch-mtl Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Does anybody else feel EXTREMELY nervous when ever he is on the ice? I think he is the most unreliable defenseman that we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted October 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Does anybody else feel EXTREMELY nervous when ever he is on the ice? I think he is the most unreliable defenseman that we have. Tossup between O'Byrne and Gill as to who makes me more nervous. It's really too bad we don't see playoff Gill outside of, well, the playoffs. Regular-season Gill is an accident waiting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames4eva Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Tossup between O'Byrne and Gill as to who makes me more nervous. It's really too bad we don't see playoff Gill outside of, well, the playoffs. Regular-season Gill is an accident waiting to happen. I'd say that Spacek and Picard are who make me most nervous right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruuvimeisseli Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 I'd say that Spacek and Picard are who make me most nervous right now. Every D man makes me nervous except for Gorges, Subban and Markov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lphardy Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Can anyone explain to me why he is still on our roster. There are plenty of guys in the NHL with his size that have more skill. How hard is it to replace someone like O'Byrne. He had his chances over and over and hasn't shown a hint of improvement. I know people in real life that are better than this guy. Is the market for defensemen really that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitbull12 Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Can anyone explain to me why he is still on our roster. There are plenty of guys in the NHL with his size that have more skill. How hard is it to replace someone like O'Byrne. He had his chances over and over and hasn't shown a hint of improvement. I know people in real life that are better than this guy. Is the market for defensemen really that bad? OB is still young, at 26 years old he still has room to improve. No one is expecting him to be a #1 or #2 d-man, he makes a decent 5-6 guy. I didn't really notice him vs the Leafs which is a good thing because that means he wasn't making mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatethosebruins Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 OB is still young, at 26 years old he still has room to improve. No one is expecting him to be a #1 or #2 d-man, he makes a decent 5-6 guy. I didn't really notice him vs the Leafs which is a good thing because that means he wasn't making mistakes. Except that one where we got scored on Was it him or Spacek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lphardy Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 OB is still young, at 26 years old he still has room to improve. No one is expecting him to be a #1 or #2 d-man, he makes a decent 5-6 guy. I didn't really notice him vs the Leafs which is a good thing because that means he wasn't making mistakes. Yeah but my point is that this is the NHL. How bad is the market that we have to have a guy like this on our team even as a 5-6 guy. And for someone that isn't considered #1 or #2 he gets wayyyy too much ice time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafer4lifer1 Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Except that one where we got scored on Was it him or Spacek? I'm just gonna assume it was Spacek I was never a fan of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted October 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 OB is still young, at 26 years old he still has room to improve. No one is expecting him to be a #1 or #2 d-man, he makes a decent 5-6 guy. I didn't really notice him vs the Leafs which is a good thing because that means he wasn't making mistakes. O'Byrne is not young by hockey standards. Age 26 is an age when good players can be expected to play consistently from night to night. No one is asking Ryan to be Doug Harvey reborn or to suddenly become a topnotch shutdown guy. What we're asking is that he demonstrates himself capable of being a competent defensive defenseman, a 4th or 5th d-man who doesn't hurt the team with penalties and blown coverages. To this point, Ryan hasn't proven he can be that d-man. This is a pivotal year for Ryan. If he can't cement his spot as a starter, he doesn't belong on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Bah Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Ryan plays a good game when he isn't thrust into playing big minutes and as a 6-7 dman expecting more isn't logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetThePuckOut_mtl Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 O'Byrne is not young by hockey standards. Age 26 is an age when good players can be expected to play consistently from night to night. No one is asking Ryan to be Doug Harvey reborn or to suddenly become a topnotch shutdown guy. What we're asking is that he demonstrates himself capable of being a competent defensive defenseman, a 4th or 5th d-man who doesn't hurt the team with penalties and blown coverages. To this point, Ryan hasn't proven he can be that d-man. This is a pivotal year for Ryan. If he can't cement his spot as a starter, he doesn't belong on this team. Sounds like you're describing Josh Gorges Seriously though, you're bang on. If OB were even close to Josh's level of play, I'd be more than happy with his development. Agree that his time is running out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimmerpuck Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 This situation frustrates me because O'byrne showed signs of being a good one a couple of years ago. Now he seemingly is playing for a coach who has no faith in him whatsoever which can't be good for the confidence level. I just don't see him being a Hab too much longer unless there is another string of injuries to overcome after Markov and Hamrlik are back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames4eva Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 This situation frustrates me because O'byrne showed signs of being a good one a couple of years ago. Now he seemingly is playing for a coach who has no faith in him whatsoever which can't be good for the confidence level. I just don't see him being a Hab too much longer unless there is another string of injuries to overcome after Markov and Hamrlik are back. He's still a betteer choice and player than Picard IMO. I thought he played well enou8gh again last night vs. the Penguins. And please realize who he is playing with (Picard) at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 I've had no problem and felt no nervousness with O'B through two games. I haven't been paying close attention to detail, so maybe I'm missing a lot of player errors, but O'B seems to be doing okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted October 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 He's still a betteer choice and player than Picard IMO. I thought he played well enou8gh again last night vs. the Penguins. And please realize who he is playing with (Picard) at this point. But how does this reflect well on Ryan? Yes, he's arguably a better choice than a bottom-tier depth d-man we picked up for nothing in the offseason. That still doesn't mean he's very good, or that he has a permanent spot on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MkGee Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Does anybody else feel EXTREMELY nervous when ever he is on the ice? I think he is the most unreliable defenseman that we have. both gill and OB make me nervous they are why we lost agianst the laffs god i love how the think the have the cup on lock XD ill burn my rocket richard jersey if they win the cup.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatethosebruins Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 I'm just gonna assume it was Spacek I was never a fan of him. Me either, I still suggest both get all expenses paid trips to Hamilton, not that I think they'd do that to spacek though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carey_Price Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Except that one where we got scored on Was it him or Spacek? It was Spacek... To refresh your memory, O'byrne lets in these kinds of goals: and Ps: This is the game where O'Byrne scored on his own net: I feel so bad for him even 3 years later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bast Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Spacek and Picard are bigger problems than OB and Gill for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Bah Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 With Markov back on Saturday the defence is in for a shakeup and the Habs are in for a great season. Go Habs Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoked-b Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 I had a dream last night that Ryan was sent to Wheeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rypat19 Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Spacek and Picard are bigger problems than OB and Gill for now. i will take with OB over Hammer, Gill and Spacek (salary included) Hammer and Gill are especially penalty prone at awful times Scott Gomez $8,000,000 $7,357,000 Mike Cammalleri $5,000,000 $6,000,000 Andrei Markov $5,750,000 $5,750,000 Roman Hamrlik $5,500,000 $5,500,000 Brian Gionta $5,000,000 $5,000,000 Tomas Plekanec $5,000,000 $5,000,000 Jaroslav Spacek $3,833,000 $3,833,000 Andrei Kostitsyn $3,250,000 $3,250,000 Carey Price $2,500,000 $2,750,000 Hal Gill $2,250,000 $2,250,000 Travis Moen $1,500,000 $1,500,000 Benoit Pouliot $1,375,000 $1,375,000 Lars Eller $875,000 $1,271,000 Josh Gorges $1,300,000 $1,100,000 Alex Auld $1,000,000 $1,000,000 Ryan O'Byrne $1,400,000 $942,000 Maxim Lapierre $900,000 $900,000 Max Pacioretty $875,000 $875,000 P.K. Subban $875,000 $875,000 Ben Maxwell $735,000 $850,000 Dustin Boyd $650,000 $650,000 Jeff Halpern $600,000 $600,000 Alexandre Picard $600,000 $600,000 Mathieu Darche $500,000 $500,000 Tom Pyatt $500,000 $500,000 Georges Laraque (Buyout) $500,000 $500,000 A ton of money on D for less than stellar results I would keep OB and ship so $$$ to get some young fresh legs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristinoem7 Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 The thing that ticks me off is that watching every pre-season game Henry was the much better d-man. Better than Gill, O'Byrne, Picard and Spacek. The guy hussles and plays a pretty solid D. His only downside was his offensive skills but he's a stay-at-home type d-man! When they waived him I was so shocked and disappointed. I really thought he had it made this year, at least while Marks and Hammer were injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plecki Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 OB looked much better tonight besides putting the puck over the glass he played well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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