#31 Carey Price 2010-11

[weedleaf]

Come on? Sign already

[leafs_rock_go_mccabe]

Carey's thread at 2 pages already? Can't say that I'm surprised.

I predict this will be the longest thread of the season.

[Kubby31]

I predict this will be the longest thread of the season.

Next to "Battle between the pipes".

[detritus]

Next to "Battle between the pipes".

Errr. Unless we call up Desjardins... I don't know if anyone can make Price vs. Auld a true battle (... or atleast one worth fighting that is)

[Bean-Counting-Hab]

Errr. Unless we call up Desjardins... I don't know if anyone can make Price vs. Auld a true battle (... or atleast one worth fighting that is)

Don't underestimate Habs fans. We can make a goalie controversy out of anything.

[Kubby31]

Don't underestimate Habs fans. We can make a goalie controversy out of anything.

Post Of The Day...

[bikerbob7501]

A long term contract could be a mistake. I think you see Carey signed to 3 years, maybe even 2, maybe 4 but the latter is a stretch IMO

[leafs_rock_go_mccabe]

A long term contract could be a mistake. I think you see Carey signed to 3 years, maybe even 2, maybe 4 but the latter is a stretch IMO

I think there are several possibilities. A one year deal, a multi-year deal that ends with Carey still a RFA, or you may see a multi-year deal that lasts into Carey's UFA years (the least likely, IMO).

[GreekHockeyCoach]

I think that after the season Halak had Price expected to be traded. I just have a feeling that he was mentally getting prepared to leave Montreal and join a new team. He was probably in shock when Halak was traded and he was staying.

I was hard on Price last year, but I'd never go to a game and boo him. The kid put up decent numbers and got booed.

I just have this feeling that Price doesn't want to be in Montreal anymore.

[Kubby31]

I was hard on Price last year,

Hell coach...you were by no means alone.

I just have this feeling that Price doesn't want to be in Montreal anymore.

One may not blame the kid.

[habsfan512]

I am not a fan of Carey Price. Now there is no alternative (apologies to Alex Auld) I wish him success however I have no confidence he can lead us to the playoffs this year. It is a matter of confidence IMHO both Carey's and the fans. We will see how this turns out..I think a few people have their jobs hanging on this one. So now I expect to be bashed as a hater...

[Kubby31]

So now I expect to be bashed as a hater...

Ohhhhh the love's coming.

[FirstStar]

I think that after the season Halak had Price expected to be traded. I just have a feeling that he was mentally getting prepared to leave Montreal and join a new team. He was probably in shock when Halak was traded and he was staying.

I was hard on Price last year, but I'd never go to a game and boo him. The kid put up decent numbers and got booed.

I just have this feeling that Price doesn't want to be in Montreal anymore.

GHC, I've been saying that for about a month now... Price was the 1st one to say how shocked he was when he heard the news (Halak trade). I have a sneaking suspicion that he's holding out and hoping for an offer sheet.

Roy and I had this debate a week ago. The longer it goes on, the more I feel he was expecting (and wants) to leave Montreal.

Really, I can't blame the kid. He had a GM that raved about him and appeared to be behind the kid. But when the going got tough, instead of protecting the kid and taking him out of the spotlight, Carey was thrown to the wolves.

If Carey had of struggled in Hamilton away from the media and 20,000+ fans, I'm sure we'd be seeing a different Carey today. And I'm pretty sure the fans would be begging for him, like they're doing with Subban.

Halak didn't become a star over night... He played many seasons in Hamilton all the while developing his game. He was also called up from time to time, giving him a better idea of what to expect and better preparing him for the eventual jump. Every young kid has their fair share of struggles. The difference is, most of them have the luxury of doing it away from 20,000+ fans.

Patches had his struggles and was sent down, Dags had his struggles and was sent down, so did Sergei and many others. I don't know why the Habs were so head strong when it came to Carey. If Carey had been handled the same way as other players, it may have been Carey who brought us to the ECF last fall.

Developing a young kid properly, can be the difference between him being a star or just average. I'm afraid the mishandling of Carey has done more harm than good.

I wouldn't blame Carey one bit if he wants out of Montreal.

Coaches and GM's are there to make the tough decisions, like sending a kid down despite what the kid may believe. Last year Subban was visibly upset when they sent him down to Hamilton after training camp. The bulldogs worked hard at developing Subban's defensive game and the Habs reaped the benefits when he was finally called up.

At one point, I was afraid that the mishandling of Carey had done irreversible damage. That the kid would have troubles rebounding from it. Last year gave me much more hope. The stats didn't reflect it, but Carey appeared stronger last season, both mentally and physically.

I was really hoping the Habs were going to hold onto Halak for at least one more season, to give Carey the time to find his game. Then when Halak was traded, I was praying the Habs would go after a proven vet. Someone like Turco or even Legacy, goalies who are at end of their careers, but still capable of playing 35-50 games-if needed.

Now we've gone after Auld, a career back up. So if Carey does struggle next season, our hopes rely solely on Auld. If Carey comes out next season struggling, the fans will boo him out of town like they did with Theo and Breezer.

It's obvious that the organization wants Carey to be the future #1. But for the good of Carey's career, let the kid earn it by his own merits. If we'd gone after a seasoned vet like Legacy or Turco, we could've let time dictate the future. I feel the Habs purposely went after a backup to force Carey into the #1 spot. They tried it once before when they traded Huet and it failed. Why would they think this time would be any different?

Carey is going to find his game and mature at his own rate. Forcing him into the #1 role isn't going to magically develop him or cause him to mature any faster.

I heard BG at one point say that we have to be patient with Carey which couldn't be closer to the truth... Well, I feel that BG (and the organization) should've listened to his/their own advice.

[Rondalsf]

Very well put FirstStar....I've been wondering where his career would be at right now if he had been drafted by another team.

[Kubby31]

Really, I can't blame the kid.

I wouldn't blame Carey one bit if he wants out of Montreal.

Me neither bro,

I've said it at times also...but not recently.

Very well put FirstStar..

This.

[fourtrax]

Frankly, I think folks are overreacting and reading too much into words spoken off the cuff in the heat of the Halak trade. Worst case scenario has Carey signing for one year, after which we reassess. No need to worry.

[habsfan512]

I thoroughly enjoyed the read firststar. Excellent points. I thought Legace would bring a lot to the table but we shall see what this brings

[Kubby31]

Frankly, I think folks are overreacting and reading too much into words spoken off the cuff in the heat of the Halak trade. Worst case scenario has Carey signing for one year, after which we reassess. No need to worry.

Just that some feel weeps as I do that maybe even before Halak departed....price may.....just maybe had made up his mind that he wanted out.......possible,no?

and some as I would not blame the kid.....................but of course,who knows.

[habsfan512]

GHC, I've been saying that for about a month now... Price was the 1st one to say how shocked he was when he heard the news (Halak trade). I have a sneaking suspicion that he's holding out and hoping for an offer sheet.

Roy and I had this debate a week ago. The longer it goes on, the more I feel he was expecting (and wants) to leave Montreal.

Really, I can't blame the kid. He had a GM that raved about him and appeared to be behind the kid. But when the going got tough, instead of protecting the kid and taking him out of the spotlight, Carey was thrown to the wolves.

If Carey had of struggled in Hamilton away from the media and 20,000+ fans, I'm sure we'd be seeing a different Carey today. And I'm pretty sure the fans would be begging for him, like they're doing with Subban.

Halak didn't become a star over night... He played many seasons in Hamilton all the while developing his game. He was also called up from time to time, giving him a better idea of what to expect and better preparing him for the eventual jump. Every young kid has their fair share of struggles. The difference is, most of them have the luxury of doing it away from 20,000+ fans.

Patches had his struggles and was sent down, Dags had his struggles and was sent down, so did Sergei and many others. I don't know why the Habs were so head strong when it came to Carey. If Carey had been handled the same way as other players, it may have been Carey who brought us to the ECF last fall.

Developing a young kid properly, can be the difference between him being a star or just average. I'm afraid the mishandling of Carey has done more harm than good.

I wouldn't blame Carey one bit if he wants out of Montreal.

Coaches and GM's are there to make the tough decisions, like sending a kid down despite what the kid may believe. Last year Subban was visibly upset when they sent him down to Hamilton after training camp. The bulldogs worked hard at developing Subban's defensive game and the Habs reaped the benefits when he was finally called up.

At one point, I was afraid that the mishandling of Carey had done irreversible damage. That the kid would have troubles rebounding from it. Last year gave me much more hope. The stats didn't reflect it, but Carey appeared stronger last season, both mentally and physically.

I was really hoping the Habs were going to hold onto Halak for at least one more season, to give Carey the time to find his game. Then when Halak was traded, I was praying the Habs would go after a proven vet. Someone like Turco or even Legacy, goalies who are at end of their careers, but still capable of playing 35-50 games-if needed.

Now we've gone after Auld, a career back up. So if Carey does struggle next season, our hopes rely solely on Auld. If Carey comes out next season struggling, the fans will boo him out of town like they did with Theo and Breezer.

It's obvious that the organization wants Carey to be the future #1. But for the good of Carey's career, let the kid earn it by his own merits. If we'd gone after a seasoned vet like Legacy or Turco, we could've let time dictate the future. I feel the Habs purposely went after a backup to force Carey into the #1 spot. They tried it once before when they traded Huet and it failed. Why would they think this time would be any different?

Carey is going to find his game and mature at his own rate. Forcing him into the #1 role isn't going to magically develop him or cause him to mature any faster.

I heard BG at one point say that we have to be patient with Carey which couldn't be closer to the truth... Well, I feel that BG (and the organization) should've listened to his/their own advice.

post of the day for the year

[Rondalsf]

post of the day for the year

IMO FirstStar could have a post in the post of the day thread almost every day.

[fnveenie]

I think that after the season Halak had Price expected to be traded. I just have a feeling that he was mentally getting prepared to leave Montreal and join a new team. He was probably in shock when Halak was traded and he was staying.

I was hard on Price last year, but I'd never go to a game and boo him. The kid put up decent numbers and got booed.

I just have this feeling that Price doesn't want to be in Montreal anymore.

And I don't blame him. Montreal fans have treated him horribly over the last 3 years

[fourtrax]

Just that some feel weeps as I do that maybe even before Halak departed....price may.....just maybe had made up his mind that he wanted out.......possible,no?

and some as I would not blame the kid.....................but of course,who knows.

Even if that's true, so what?

Halak is gone, Carey is here now, and he knows damn well that if he wants to establish himself in the NHL as a legitimate starter, he has to improve his play and learn how to deal with pressure situations. Possibly he saw himself being traded because he thought the org would keep Halak, but now that Halak is gone, he could well be thinking, "This is my chance to shine!"

I mean, I don't want to pour cold water on the discussion in here, because I respect your collective hockey knowledge, but from where I'm standing, I don't think we're in a position to do more than speculate. Lots of people, including me, thought Kovalev was done after his horrid 06-07 season. Then he turned it up and posted 84 points the following year, leading us to our first conference title in 15+ years.

[GreekHockeyCoach]

GHC, I've been saying that for about a month now... Price was the 1st one to say how shocked he was when he heard the news (Halak trade). I have a sneaking suspicion that he's holding out and hoping for an offer sheet.

Roy and I had this debate a week ago. The longer it goes on, the more I feel he was expecting (and wants) to leave Montreal.

Really, I can't blame the kid. He had a GM that raved about him and appeared to be behind the kid. But when the going got tough, instead of protecting the kid and taking him out of the spotlight, Carey was thrown to the wolves.

If Carey had of struggled in Hamilton away from the media and 20,000+ fans, I'm sure we'd be seeing a different Carey today. And I'm pretty sure the fans would be begging for him, like they're doing with Subban.

Halak didn't become a star over night... He played many seasons in Hamilton all the while developing his game. He was also called up from time to time, giving him a better idea of what to expect and better preparing him for the eventual jump. Every young kid has their fair share of struggles. The difference is, most of them have the luxury of doing it away from 20,000+ fans.

Patches had his struggles and was sent down, Dags had his struggles and was sent down, so did Sergei and many others. I don't know why the Habs were so head strong when it came to Carey. If Carey had been handled the same way as other players, it may have been Carey who brought us to the ECF last fall.

Developing a young kid properly, can be the difference between him being a star or just average. I'm afraid the mishandling of Carey has done more harm than good.

I wouldn't blame Carey one bit if he wants out of Montreal.

Coaches and GM's are there to make the tough decisions, like sending a kid down despite what the kid may believe. Last year Subban was visibly upset when they sent him down to Hamilton after training camp. The bulldogs worked hard at developing Subban's defensive game and the Habs reaped the benefits when he was finally called up.

At one point, I was afraid that the mishandling of Carey had done irreversible damage. That the kid would have troubles rebounding from it. Last year gave me much more hope. The stats didn't reflect it, but Carey appeared stronger last season, both mentally and physically.

I was really hoping the Habs were going to hold onto Halak for at least one more season, to give Carey the time to find his game. Then when Halak was traded, I was praying the Habs would go after a proven vet. Someone like Turco or even Legacy, goalies who are at end of their careers, but still capable of playing 35-50 games-if needed.

Now we've gone after Auld, a career back up. So if Carey does struggle next season, our hopes rely solely on Auld. If Carey comes out next season struggling, the fans will boo him out of town like they did with Theo and Breezer.

It's obvious that the organization wants Carey to be the future #1. But for the good of Carey's career, let the kid earn it by his own merits. If we'd gone after a seasoned vet like Legacy or Turco, we could've let time dictate the future. I feel the Habs purposely went after a backup to force Carey into the #1 spot. They tried it once before when they traded Huet and it failed. Why would they think this time would be any different?

Carey is going to find his game and mature at his own rate. Forcing him into the #1 role isn't going to magically develop him or cause him to mature any faster.

I heard BG at one point say that we have to be patient with Carey which couldn't be closer to the truth... Well, I feel that BG (and the organization) should've listened to his/their own advice.

Wow FS, what a great post. Post of the day for sure!

[Kubby31]

Even if that's true, so what?

Halak is gone, Carey is here now, and he knows damn well that if he wants to establish himself in the NHL as a legitimate starter, he has to improve his play and learn how to deal with pressure situations. Possibly he saw himself being traded because he thought the org would keep Halak, but now that Halak is gone, he could well be thinking, "This is my chance to shine!"

And I agree with bold....so if & when he signs....is what I hope he does better in....and I'll root for him.

Even if that's true, so what?

nothing really....just saying.

[Kubby31]

if Carey does struggle next season, our hopes rely solely on Auld. If Carey comes out next season struggling, the fans will boo him out of town like they did with Theo and Breezer.

You know it...they have shown this is capable.....IMO.