#31 Carey Price 2010-11

[CaptWelly]

Wow FS, what a great post. Post of the day for sure!

I agree that post was absolutly correct. Yes he won at the world juniors on a Canadain team (power house) and in the AHL playoffs on a team that was already on a roll. He has good size which in juniors and the minors makes a huge difference. I agree he probally will be good it doesn't mean he will be his best this year he still is only 22! I agree they should of brought a solid veteran in aftering trading Halak. This wouldn't of been to push him as much as give him time to develope and earn the spot. I hope he does well but I agree the team is throwing him to the fans(wolves) to perform now and have the major work load right now! I also agree they should of taken Carbo's initial thought and that first year let him develope in Hamilton. It is what it is now so good luck Carey! On the signing I still think being givin the job again he should take a reasonable contract maybe 2-3 years at about 2- 2.5 then go for the big one if his numbers show it. By that time there will be more money available also, and he would still be what 25 after a three year deal. Show us what you can do than ask for big money. I also don't think the money other goalies have been signing for that 2- 2.5 is bad money.

[Kubby31]

they should of brought a solid veteran in after trading Halak.

IMO...way before it even gotten to this.

[FirstStar]

Thanx everyone for the kind words... I didn't say anything that others haven't already thought. I just put it down on paper (or in a post).

[weedleaf]

SIGN HIM

[Alastair_LighT]

A long time ago when a lot of us thought that Halak was going to get traded (back in November or so) to the Philadelphia Flyers, I said something along the lines of "What happens if we trade Halak, and then Price betrays us by not signing because he doesn't like / can't handle Montreal?" We shouldn't trade Halak because Price might betray us! Don't trade Halak!!!

Well, I'm not saying I was right, but it's possible... Time will tell.

[jcammalleri]

I love how the excuses are always ready for Price even before the season starts. And I love how he is always the victim, despite having all the opportunities and all the promtions. I hope Price himself is different from this victim mentality and appreciates how much this organization (Fanbase included) have invested in him...and he starts paying them off.

[RSD]

I love how the excuses are always ready for Price even before the season starts. And I love how he is always the victim, despite having all the opportunities and all the promtions. I hope Price himself is different from this victim mentality and appreciates how much this organization (Fanbase included) have invested in him...and he starts paying them off.

the fan base has invested what in him?...the people who go to games boo him...a ton of fans have no confidence in him and want him out of town...this guy shouldnt sign here...the "fanbase" doesnt deserve a price or a halak...spoiled fans who think they should get the final say in everything and never want to go through growing pains...always looking at teams at the top never looking at their growing pains...detroit, new jersey, chicago, washington, pittsburgh...fanbase...nonsense...making excuses?...no, stating the fact that price had a decent year last year isnt making an excuse its stating the truth...what about the people who make excuses for the team not scoring when price was in net?...ive personally heard it all and read it all on here too...i wouldnt be mad or upset if price didnt sign...if some team sent an offer sheet or if he held out...i wouldnt be surprised...i would be surprised if he signs a long term deal here because that would show me that he wants to prove something to his doubters, not around the league, but right in montreal sitting in the nose bleeds of le centre bell...

[Snow4Habs]

I hope this comparison between Price and Halak will soon be over in the Price thread. Halak is gone, gone to St. Louis, I kept on saying I liked him and thanked him for what he brought to our team but back to Price, he's still a solid goalie. With the full support of the fans (like that will happen to a goalie in MTL) I know he can be great this season and many seasons after that, we don't want another Roy who wants to be traded and win the cup right away. As a lot of people pointed out, he's got the potential to be an franchise goaltender, so let your girlfriends/wifes cheer him on the ice if you don't feel like cheering him yourself. I know the females love him. I don't know why...

So whatever happened with Price history with the Habs/Fans. I will quote the monkey from the movie The Lion King "It doesn't matter, it's in the past!"

[billy-piton]

carey will win vezina next year,mmw! \o/ \o/ \o/

[catt-_mtlc]

I hope this comparison between Price and Halak will soon be over in the Price thread. Halak is gone, gone to St. Louis, I kept on saying I liked him and thanked him for what he brought to our team but back to Price, he's still a solid goalie. With the full support of the fans (like that will happen to a goalie in MTL) I know he can be great this season and many seasons after that, we don't want another Roy who wants to be traded and win the cup right away. As a lot of people pointed out, he's got the potential to be an franchise goaltender, so let your girlfriends/wifes cheer him on the ice if you don't feel like cheering him yourself. I know the females love him. I don't know why...

So whatever happened with Price history with the Habs/Fans. I will quote the monkey from the movie The Lion King "It doesn't matter, it's in the past!"

He will continue to be compared to Halak until he steps up his play and has a defining playoff moment like Halak did this year. The ECF is now the bench mark to which he will be measured. It might not be fair but Halak's play will be very hard to forget. Time heals all wounds and if Price plays like many think he can it just might make people forget about Halak's phenomenal play during the playoffs.

carey will win vezina next year,mmw! \o/ \o/ \o/

[cherrybaby]

I don't think Carey wants to go to another team, that's crazy. What team would he go to? It may be tough being a Hab sometimes, but I remember Price saying that when it's good, it's really good, or something like that. Someone as competitive as him doesn't just quit, if anything I think he's even more motivated. Look at how he supported Halak and his whole team from the bench during the playoffs, that to me shows he still has drive and is dedicated to being a Hab. I think he's dealt with the worst when it comes to the fans at this point, it still disgusts and baffles me at how they could mock and boo him, I mean is that how you support your team?? I don't care how invested or diehard you are, something like that is inexcusable.

[jcammalleri]

the fan base has invested what in him?...the people who go to games boo him...a ton of fans have no confidence in him and want him out of town...this guy shouldnt sign here...the "fanbase" doesnt deserve a price or a halak...spoiled fans who think they should get the final say in everything and never want to go through growing pains...always looking at teams at the top never looking at their growing pains...detroit, new jersey, chicago, washington, pittsburgh...fanbase...nonsense...making excuses?...no, stating the fact that price had a decent year last year isnt making an excuse its stating the truth...what about the people who make excuses for the team not scoring when price was in net?...ive personally heard it all and read it all on here too...i wouldnt be mad or upset if price didnt sign...if some team sent an offer sheet or if he held out...i wouldnt be surprised...i would be surprised if he signs a long term deal here because that would show me that he wants to prove something to his doubters, not around the league, but right in montreal sitting in the nose bleeds of le centre bell...

So one has to be in 100% agreement with that management does and have 100% confidence in every player...or they don't deserve good players or a good team? Spoiled fans, stupid fans, fans that don't have everything figured out through crystal ball..well guess what? These are the Habs fans and that's the way they have been for a century. don't like it? Go play for Carolina! Great players know how to use the pressure of this city to motivate themselves...and not so great players keep looking for excuses. Price can be a great player...he has the potential...and he is NOT the one that come up with these excuses... 'fans suck' 'Defence suck', 'Goals support sucks' In my opinion the fans that throw a pity party for Pricey at every opportunity are just as ridiculous as the ones booing him.

and I donn't even understand your point about the nose bleeds at Bell center..people who buy cheap seats are somehow less knowlegable of the game? I beg to differ based on my personal experiences. That is just an absurd and objectionable comment.

[Kubby31]

I remember Price saying that when it's good, it's really good, or something like that.

Someone as competitive as him doesn't just quit.

...if anything I think he's even more motivated. Look at how he supported Halak and his whole team from the bench during the playoffs, that to me shows he still has drive and is dedicated to being a Hab.

Lets hope so......really hoping he'll sign & the sooner the better,so we all can move on from this discussion.

I've posted previously that I agreed with a few members,that we/I would not blame him for not wanting to put up with some of the crap that he's gone through....thinking just maybe somewhere else he would not have to deal with certain issues that a goalie here in Montreal goes through when he's not playing well for his fans.

But,this does not mean that he'll just quit & jump ship....just because I would not blame him.

Carey as you mentioned is competitive...has matured & come a long way here.

Yes,the fans were at times tough on this kid......I never have been a huge die-hard price fan to be honest.....but I never once came on & bashed or ripped him.

He's was a very young netminder....who came into the hardest/pressure cooker city in the league to play net as the appointed #1 goalie, IMO,OF COURSE.

...Do I want him to up & leave us,hell no....be really nice for him to stay and show us all how capable he really is & that the having the patience & faith in him in the long run would pay off.

Whatever he decides...it'll be better for him,rest assure......GO PRICE.

Just my own look on things here folks. ...*whew*

[Kubby31]

Price can be a great player...he has the potential.

Agreed Habfreak.

[roy_133]

He will continue to be compared to Halak until he steps up his play and has a defining playoff moment like Halak did this year. The ECF is now the bench mark to which he will be measured. It might not be fair but Halak's play will be very hard to forget. Time heals all wounds and if Price plays like many think he can it just might make people forget about Halak's phenomenal play during the playoffs.

I think generally the past is forgotten and Carey will be measured more against what Halak does from here on in then what he's done. If Halak picks up where he left of, consistently, yes that's the standard Carey will be held to. If Halak struggles and Carey is just "good", people will think as great as the run was we made the right choice, even if Carey doesn't play up to that level.

[Manatee-X]

GHC, I've been saying that for about a month now... Price was the 1st one to say how shocked he was when he heard the news (Halak trade). I have a sneaking suspicion that he's holding out and hoping for an offer sheet.

Roy and I had this debate a week ago. The longer it goes on, the more I feel he was expecting (and wants) to leave Montreal.

Really, I can't blame the kid. He had a GM that raved about him and appeared to be behind the kid. But when the going got tough, instead of protecting the kid and taking him out of the spotlight, Carey was thrown to the wolves.

If Carey had of struggled in Hamilton away from the media and 20,000+ fans, I'm sure we'd be seeing a different Carey today. And I'm pretty sure the fans would be begging for him, like they're doing with Subban.

Halak didn't become a star over night... He played many seasons in Hamilton all the while developing his game. He was also called up from time to time, giving him a better idea of what to expect and better preparing him for the eventual jump. Every young kid has their fair share of struggles. The difference is, most of them have the luxury of doing it away from 20,000+ fans.

Patches had his struggles and was sent down, Dags had his struggles and was sent down, so did Sergei and many others. I don't know why the Habs were so head strong when it came to Carey. If Carey had been handled the same way as other players, it may have been Carey who brought us to the ECF last fall.

Developing a young kid properly, can be the difference between him being a star or just average. I'm afraid the mishandling of Carey has done more harm than good.

I wouldn't blame Carey one bit if he wants out of Montreal.

Coaches and GM's are there to make the tough decisions, like sending a kid down despite what the kid may believe. Last year Subban was visibly upset when they sent him down to Hamilton after training camp. The bulldogs worked hard at developing Subban's defensive game and the Habs reaped the benefits when he was finally called up.

At one point, I was afraid that the mishandling of Carey had done irreversible damage. That the kid would have troubles rebounding from it. Last year gave me much more hope. The stats didn't reflect it, but Carey appeared stronger last season, both mentally and physically.

I was really hoping the Habs were going to hold onto Halak for at least one more season, to give Carey the time to find his game. Then when Halak was traded, I was praying the Habs would go after a proven vet. Someone like Turco or even Legacy, goalies who are at end of their careers, but still capable of playing 35-50 games-if needed.

Now we've gone after Auld, a career back up. So if Carey does struggle next season, our hopes rely solely on Auld. If Carey comes out next season struggling, the fans will boo him out of town like they did with Theo and Breezer.

It's obvious that the organization wants Carey to be the future #1. But for the good of Carey's career, let the kid earn it by his own merits. If we'd gone after a seasoned vet like Legacy or Turco, we could've let time dictate the future. I feel the Habs purposely went after a backup to force Carey into the #1 spot. They tried it once before when they traded Huet and it failed. Why would they think this time would be any different?

Carey is going to find his game and mature at his own rate. Forcing him into the #1 role isn't going to magically develop him or cause him to mature any faster.

I heard BG at one point say that we have to be patient with Carey which couldn't be closer to the truth... Well, I feel that BG (and the organization) should've listened to his/their own advice.

Well FS, I'll add my voice to the chorus of others calling this a great post. Only I don't quite agree with it .

In my opinion, I just don't see the way management has treated Price as having been detrimental to his development. Detrimental to the team, maybe. Detrimental to the fans' perception of Price, definitely. But detrimental to his development?

I agree that from the team's point of view he could have been handled better, and especially that he wasn't necessarily ready for the #1 role when it was first thrust upon him. While I don't think the Canadiens could have beaten Boston in the playoffs a few years ago with Hasek in net given the way that they played, I will concede that Price was not very good in the series. And no, he wasn't great in the Philly series the year before that. This is why bringing him up may have hurt the team, as there's always a chance that Huet or Halak could have stepped up and stolen enough games to get us an extra round or two. The losses and the subsequent media spectacle (not helped by his 'pulling a Roy') lead to a lot of fans declaring him a failure.

But as for hurting his development, I just don't see it. This situation isn't the same as it is for a skater who gets called up too early only to ride the pine or play 7-8 minutes a night. As a goalie, and at times as a #1 goalie, Carey got good playing time against high-calibre NHL opponents. In my estimation this is going to help him improve far more than playing the same number of games against AHL teams ever could. As in any sport, playing against players who are better than you helps you improve at a much faster rate (even if you do get beaten badly for a while in the process). Add in the world class coaching, training, nutrition coaching, councelling, etc that's available to a member of a modern NHL team and you've got yourself a pretty great place to improve your game.

"But wait," you say! "That's all well and good, but the problem with being brought up isn't about any of that stuff, it's about what happenned to him mentally!" But what really happened to him mentally? It's not exactly as though he's a basket case. As you said yourself, last season he actually played quite well despite what his record may have indicated. In addition, he looked calm and focused even as the losses were piling up and even as he sat out for most of our playoff run. I didn't see a young goalie who was ruined by pressure and a few bad stretches, I saw a young goalie who seemed very responsible and willing to put in the work needed to improve.

Plus, I think we need to consider the alternative. Picture what things would be like right now had we developed him more conservatively and he was about to enter his first season as a #1. First off, he'd still probably be seen as an absolute superstar-in-waiting, with all of the unrealistic expectaions to go with it. I remember Bob McKenzie wrote an article for TSN.ca, before Price even played one game in the NHL, opining that Carey might well be the only other player in Crosby's draft year to be mentioned in the same breath as Sid the Kid. (Looking back now, is it any wonder Price has failed to live up to fans' expectations? ).

It's not as though after having the benefit of a few years in the AHL or as a back-up he was going to come in and have a brilliant career with no struggles whatsoever. There would be bad spells. There will be bad spells. The question that people often ask is whether, after some seasoning, he would be better at dealing with those bad spells than he was when Huet was traded and he was first made #1. My answer, like most people's, is "Yes, he almost certainly would be". BUT (and you knew the 'but' was coming ) those people are asking the wrong question. The real comparison we need to make is between that alternate universe version of Carey Price and today's Carey Price of the same age. He's been through some rough patches. He's been beaten badly in a playoff series and had an entire Province's worth of reporters place the blame unfairly on his shoulders. He's experienced the exhaulting highs and shattering lows of fan 'support' at the Bell Centre. He's been given the #1 role only to have it ripped away from him by Halak's great play while the rest of the team went on a playoff run for the ages. These are all life experiences that will help him going forward that he would not have had if he had been developed in a more traditional way, and based on all of last season he seems to have come through those experiences still feeling pretty confident about himself.

He's a good young goalie who's so far played his entire career like... a good young goalie. He's had a lot more to handle than most other goalies his age. I would argue that, far from ruining him, those experiences actually make him better equipped than he would otherwise be to move forward as the starting goaltender for the Montreal Canadiens.

[fourtrax]

Well FS, I'll add my voice to the chorus of others calling this a great post. Only I don't quite agree with it .

In my opinion, I just don't see the way management has treated Price as having been detrimental to his development. Detrimental to the team, maybe. Detrimental to the fans' perception of Price, definitely. But detrimental to his development?

I agree that from the team's point of view he could have been handled better, and especially that he wasn't necessarily ready for the #1 role when it was first thrust upon him. While I don't think the Canadiens could have beaten Boston in the playoffs a few years ago with Hasek in net given the way that they played, I will concede that Price was not very good in the series. And no, he wasn't great in the Philly series the year before that. This is why bringing him up may have hurt the team, as there's always a chance that Huet or Halak could have stepped up and stolen enough games to get us an extra round or two. The losses and the subsequent media spectacle (not helped by his 'pulling a Roy') lead to a lot of fans declaring him a failure.

But as for hurting his development, I just don't see it. This situation isn't the same as it is for a skater who gets called up too early only to ride the pine or play 7-8 minutes a night. As a goalie, and at times as a #1 goalie, Carey got good playing time against high-calibre NHL opponents. In my estimation this is going to help him improve far more than playing the same number of games against AHL teams ever could. As in any sport, playing against players who are better than you helps you improve at a much faster rate (even if you do get beaten badly for a while in the process). Add in the world class coaching, training, nutrition coaching, councelling, etc that's available to a member of a modern NHL team and you've got yourself a pretty great place to improve your game.

"But wait," you say! "That's all well and good, but the problem with being brought up isn't about any of that stuff, it's about what happenned to him mentally!" But what really happened to him mentally? It's not exactly as though he's a basket case. As you said yourself, last season he actually played quite well despite what his record may have indicated. In addition, he looked calm and focused even as the losses were piling up and even as he sat out for most of our playoff run. I didn't see a young goalie who was ruined by pressure and a few bad stretches, I saw a young goalie who seemed very responsible and willing to put in the work needed to improve.

Plus, I think we need to consider the alternative. Picture what things would be like right now had we developed him more conservatively and he was about to enter his first season as a #1. First off, he'd still probably be seen as an absolute superstar-in-waiting, with all of the unrealistic expectaions to go with it. I remember Bob McKenzie wrote an article for TSN.ca, before Price even played one game in the NHL, opining that Carey might well be the only other player in Crosby's draft year to be mentioned in the same breath as Sid the Kid. (Looking back now, is it any wonder Price has failed to live up to fans' expectations? ).

It's not as though after having the benefit of a few years in the AHL or as a back-up he was going to come in and have a brilliant career with no struggles whatsoever. There would be bad spells. There will be bad spells. The question that people often ask is whether, after some seasoning, he would be better at dealing with those bad spells than he was when Huet was traded and he was first made #1. My answer, like most people's, is "Yes, he almost certainly would be". BUT (and you knew the 'but' was coming ) those people are asking the wrong question. The real comparison we need to make is between that alternate universe version of Carey Price and today's Carey Price of the same age. He's been through some rough patches. He's been beaten badly in a playoff series and had an entire Province's worth of reporters place the blame unfairly on his shoulders. He's experienced the exhaulting highs and shattering lows of fan 'support' at the Bell Centre. He's been given the #1 role only to have it ripped away from him by Halak's great play while the rest of the team went on a playoff run for the ages. These are all life experiences that will help him going forward that he would not have had if he had been developed in a more traditional way, and based on all of last season he seems to have come through those experiences still feeling pretty confident about himself.

He's a good young goalie who's so far played his entire career like... a good young goalie. He's had a lot more to handle than most other goalies his age. I would argue that, far from ruining him, those experiences actually make him better equipped than he would otherwise be to move forward as the starting goaltender for the Montreal Canadiens.

POTD candidate. Well done, Manatee.

[bikerbob7501]

I agree with you there Manatee, I never thought his developement was hindered or he was 'ruined.' He had the skills to be there, didn't really hurt us when you think about it, I mean, we're here now, and of course he's developing at a fine rate, learning more about the NHL. Now he will have a strong older presence who wants to be there and who knows his job. Price will have a good season I think, but if he doesn't, what else can management really do?

[roy_133]

I agree with you there Manatee, I never thought his developement was hindered or he was 'ruined.' He had the skills to be there, didn't really hurt us when you think about it, I mean, we're here now, and of course he's developing at a fine rate, learning more about the NHL. Now he will have a strong older presence who wants to be there and who knows his job. Price will have a good season I think, but if he doesn't, what else can management really do?

Well Timmins said before or during the Calder Cup run they'd like a goalie to play 100 AHL regular season games and as far as they're concerned 1 playoff game = 5 regular season games in development. Whether you agree or not they assessed Carey as having had the development of 120+ AHL games, which yes, by that system he was probably NHL ready. The results may seem frustrating but have been average - above average. Like I've said before, I think if you told any team you could take a 20-22 year old goalie you believe will be a top of the line goalie one day and let him develop on the job while giving you average - above average performance any team would take it, especially considering it was on his ELC.

In hindsight the inconsistencies were predictable, I can't think of a goalie who didn't struggle with them who came up at Carey's age. I don't think his development has been hindered at all, in fact I'd say it's probably been fast tracked although that's speculative. Whether or not it was worth it is another debate but considering what he had done pre NHL I'm not sure how much 3-4 years and several hundred games in Hamilton would have accomplished for his development, it wouldn't have hurt but I suspect he'd have eventually stangated. The thing is, Montreal provides a unique set of circumstances, especially for a guy with the pressure that Carey has. He wasn't going to learn to handle it in Hamilton, he was going to come with this hype and the expectations.

[hockey_gal89]

The thing I noticed about Carey Price this past season/playoff is one of the things I see making him a better goalie this season and closer in likeness to the Carey Price we expect him to be...That thing was work ethic...When he was riding the pine, he put his head down and went to work...Watching Halak he saw what he needed to do to be #1...And so, he hit the ice for optional skates...He started becoming one of those guys (maybe he was all along, but we focused on all the party talk, I don't know the man personal so I can't say for sure) who was first on/last off the ice.

The one lesson we all learn in life is nothing is given to you, you have to work for it...You must have the drive to achieve what you desire...And the Halak trade aside, I think Price has still learned that lesson, given how 09-10 unfolded for him (losing his starting job to Halak)...He now (I'm assuming) better understands at what level must play at in order to be a #1...There's NOTHING wrong with a goalie learning that lesson young, especially a young man with his natural talent and athletic ability...Price has done this at every other level (Played an elite, championship calibre game and won), it's time for him to step up and show what he's got...And I believe he's got the skill set to do it.

Will Price be able to take advantage of his situation? We'll see when the games are played...But I wouldn't be surprised to see Price step up and succeed.

[madsprite18]

I hope this comparison between Price and Halak will soon be over in the Price thread. Halak is gone, gone to St. Louis, I kept on saying I liked him and thanked him for what he brought to our team but back to Price, he's still a solid goalie. With the full support of the fans (like that will happen to a goalie in MTL) I know he can be great this season and many seasons after that, we don't want another Roy who wants to be traded and win the cup right away. As a lot of people pointed out, he's got the potential to be an franchise goaltender, so let your girlfriends/wifes cheer him on the ice if you don't feel like cheering him yourself. I know the females love him. I don't know why...

So whatever happened with Price history with the Habs/Fans. I will quote the monkey from the movie The Lion King "It doesn't matter, it's in the past!"

“Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it” ........Santayana

[Mathradio]

I suppose that he could have handled the puck some more have there been no trapezoid to get in his way.

[cyoungerrr]

People say the fans don't deserve a Halak or a Price here. But I don't recall much booing of Halak the past few years. That's because he was brought up properly and prioved over the last few years to be a better 60 minute goaltender physically and mentally. I'm very scared for the coming season. The team hasn't improved enough for Carey to just be average-slightly above average and have us get close to the playoffs, let alone any sort of run in the playoffs. They threw him to the wolves 2 years in a row and then seemed to get smart this last season and playoffs, and give him a rest. Now they are throwing him to the wolves again. He has to pick up his mental and physical game a great deal, and not for 59 minutes a game, for 60. That means no crashed sticks, no arms in the air when you let in a weak goal, no shooting pucks at opposing players after they score. Instead we need the big save with the game on the line and a one goal lead, and then credit given to the teammates. Sort of like Halak.

[Manatee-X]

People say the fans don't deserve a Halak or a Price here. But I don't recall much booing of Halak the past few years. That's because he was brought up properly and prioved over the last few years to be a better 60 minute goaltender physically and mentally. I'm very scared for the coming season. The team hasn't improved enough for Carey to just be average-slightly above average and have us get close to the playoffs, let alone any sort of run in the playoffs. They threw him to the wolves 2 years in a row and then seemed to get smart this last season and playoffs, and give him a rest. Now they are throwing him to the wolves again. He has to pick up his mental and physical game a great deal, and not for 59 minutes a game, for 60. That means no crashed sticks, no arms in the air when you let in a weak goal, no shooting pucks at opposing players after they score. Instead we need the big save with the game on the line and a one goal lead, and then credit given to the teammates. Sort of like Halak.

If this year's team can't even get to the playoffs with slightly above-average goaltending then they don't deserve to be there. We're never going to win a cup relying only on our goaltender, and a team as bad as the one you described wouldn't even have a shot. Better we know we're bad, take a higher pick and start working to correct it.

In any case, I remain optimistic that both Price and the team will surprise a lot of people and do pretty well this year.

[Rondalsf]

There are goiing to be Price bashers & detractors forever no matter how well he may play this next season & down the road.

We could win a game 2-1 in OT & people will say.."We should have won in regulation, If Carey had only made that save". Meanwhile he's already stopped 40 shots.

For myself I will cheer for him, Double AA or whomever plays goal because as long as they are wearing the "CH" that's all that matters for me. There is no use IMO to complain or bash anyone on our team.

The glaring emptiness of any Canadien forward in front of the opposing goalie is much more disconcerting to me.