Mathradio Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 The NBA may have pulled $1B more in revenue but overpaid players ate much of it. The average payroll is actually over that cap. By the time Subban becomes an UFA, Hammer, Gill and Spacek will no longer be Habs; Markov may not have a $5.75M cap hit anymore and I don't know for Gorges or O'Byrne. Subban will be the one with the big cap hit rather than Hammer or Markov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rondalsf Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 if you'd remove all the posts that talk about halak from the price thread, methinks PK would have a comfortable lead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathradio Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Subban has become my favorite D-man! His strengths: puck moving, power play. (Maybe penalty kill but that's a long shot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteenIsThaFuture Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 The NBA may have pulled $1B more in revenue but overpaid players ate much of it. The average payroll is actually over that cap. Irrelevant since we're talking about the cap being tied to revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooser_mtl Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Go out and get the calder this year PK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA_Champion Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Go out and get the calder this year PK When's the last time we thought we had a Calder candidate at the start of the season? This is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunwah Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 When's the last time we thought we had a Calder candidate at the start of the season? This is great. Before Price's rookie season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA_Champion Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Before Price's rookie season. Really? I don't recall that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 When's the last time we thought we had a Calder candidate at the start of the season? This is great. Well, Ryder wasn't before the season, but was pretty darn close to achieving the award by the end of the year. Price garnered some Calder interest, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted August 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Would like to see him on the first-wave PP unit at left point, with Markov feeding him pucks on the right point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Bah Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Would like to see him on the first-wave PP unit at left point, with Markov feeding him pucks on the right point. That would give him at least a fair chance at keeping up with Hall and Seguin in the rookie points race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathradio Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 That would give him at least a fair chance at keeping up with Hall and Seguin in the rookie points race. He would have to score 50 points or more. I do not expect either of Hall or Seguin to score more than 60, perhaps 70 points this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big-Ted Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 He would have to score 50 points or more. I do not expect either of Hall or Seguin to score more than 60, perhaps 70 points this season. For Seguin, it's unlikely given that he's sitting behind guys like Bergeron and Savard on the depth chart right now. He'd have to hope for a trade or injury to win some more minutes, especially PP time. Hall on the other hand will likely have all kinds of quality ice time playing on a weak Edmonton team, and while his team may not be successful, he will likely have a shot at a good year. I think 60-70 points is a good estimate, but it's possible he could out-do even that. As for Subban, he could very well have a good year that puts him in the running for rookie-of-the-year. But it's also possible he struggles in his first full year. I think he'll be okay if he just concentrates on his game, puts pucks on net on the PP and plays a sound defensive game. My guess for PK is that he'll end up somewhere between 30-40 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habby-_mtlc Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 One thing's for sure: if he plays for the Habs next season, Don Cherry will be going nuts for him. He loved pointing out that the guy was from the GTHL during the playoffs. Maybe Cherry just needed something to connect with. But he was still a big fan. Is the fact that this month's calendar features Subban a sign of something? (Like Subban is leading us into the future? August is the month before preason starts.) They're probably just getting us excited and I'm reading too much into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy4life_mtl Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 When's the last time we thought we had a Calder candidate at the start of the season? This is great. WOOOOHHHHOOOO GO PK!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_295_ca Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 When's the last time we thought we had a Calder candidate at the start of the season? This is great. price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubby31 Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 One thing's for sure: if he plays for the Habs next season. No reason to think he will not....IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedleaf Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 The NBA may have pulled $1B more in revenue but overpaid players ate much of it. The average payroll is actually over that cap. By the time Subban becomes an UFA, Hammer, Gill and Spacek will no longer be Habs; Markov may not have a $5.75M cap hit anymore and I don't know for Gorges or O'Byrne. Subban will be the one with the big cap hit rather than Hammer or Markov. Or he could be in the AHL/ on another team / Working @ Walmart. For Seguin, it's unlikely given that he's sitting behind guys like Bergeron and Savard on the depth chart right now. He'd have to hope for a trade or injury to win some more minutes, especially PP time. Hall on the other hand will likely have all kinds of quality ice time playing on a weak Edmonton team, and while his team may not be successful, he will likely have a shot at a good year. I think 60-70 points is a good estimate, but it's possible he could out-do even that. As for Subban, he could very well have a good year that puts him in the running for rookie-of-the-year. But it's also possible he struggles in his first full year. I think he'll be okay if he just concentrates on his game, puts pucks on net on the PP and plays a sound defensive game. My guess for PK is that he'll end up somewhere between 30-40 points. I could see him being benched a whole lot.. Not out coaches kind of player, you know hes going to have HUGE mistakes like all Rookie Defenseman just he takes HUGE HUGE risks that regulare D wouldnt take, so they will be even more obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetThePuckOut_mtl Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 I could see him being benched a whole lot.. Not out coaches kind of player, you know hes going to have HUGE mistakes like all Rookie Defenseman just he takes HUGE HUGE risks that regulare D wouldnt take, so they will be even more obvious I don't know. MAB wasn't the coach's kind of player either, and how many times was he benched for his mistakes? No doubt that PK will make mistakes, but let's not forget that he was one of the top +/- players in the AHL last year, as well as the OHL before that. He has the speed to correct a lot of his mistakes, and he's better defensively than a lot of people give him credit for. He will also have one of the best 2-way defensemen in the league teaching him this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathradio Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 I don't know. MAB wasn't the coach's kind of player either, and how many times was he benched for his mistakes? No doubt that PK will make mistakes, but let's not forget that he was one of the top +/- players in the AHL last year, as well as the OHL before that. He has the speed to correct a lot of his mistakes, and he's better defensively than a lot of people give him credit for. He will also have one of the best 2-way defensemen in the league teaching him this year. Markov? Hamrlik? One day he will be the D-man to which other Habs D-men will be compared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColRouleBleu Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Wait before buying any Subban jersey or T-shirt, he apparently wants to change number (according to rds on twitter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket-1 Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Lol. Getting a little ahead of ourselves arent we considering he has played what, 20 games at the nhl level? I know that was written a long time ago but ill reply to you anyway. Let's see PK played 16 games in the NHL 2 in the regular season and 14 in the playoffs for 10 pts total, 1 goal 9 assists +3 in 16 games played. Not too shabby for a 21 year old. Let's try the other approach with this kid, let's get excited one time like back in the days. We have a star coming in our club, why not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clues Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Wait before buying any Subban jersey or T-shirt, he apparently wants to change number (according to rds on twitter) Thanks CRB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSD Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Wait before buying any Subban jersey or T-shirt, he apparently wants to change number (according to rds on twitter) first gomez now pk ... the egos on this team just wont quit ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuniorSTLB Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 first gomez now pk ... the egos on this team just wont quit ... Well it's a bit more understandable for PK... he was basically thrown to the big boys teams out of the blue. But Gomez.... /facepalm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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