Trevor Timmins 2010-11

[FirstStar]

Trevor Timmins

Position: Director of Player Recruitment and Development

-Trevor Timmins enters his eighth season as Canadiens Director of Player Recruitment and Development. He is primarily responsible for overseeing and directing the Canadiens' amateur scouting system, including the annual NHL Entry Draft and amateur free-agent recruitment.

In addition, Timmins is responsible for both of the club's Summer Development and Rookie Camps. He also oversees the development of the Canadiens prospects in Hamilton and their amateur prospects during the hockey season.

*From Canadiens.com

[DA_Champion]

I wonder if we would have a higher appreciation of this guy had Chipchura and Fischer not gone through serious injuries during their development time.

I admit I'm not even sure exactly how serious those injuries were, and how unusual they are. As it stands though, the arguable two worst first round selections of the Timmins era are also (I think) the two first round selections of said era with the most serious injuries in development time.

[S-Bah]

Trevor Timmins

Position: Director of Player Recruitment and Development

-Trevor Timmins enters his eighth season as Canadiens Director of Player Recruitment and Development. He is primarily responsible for overseeing and directing the Canadiens' amateur scouting system, including the annual NHL Entry Draft and amateur free-agent recruitment.

In addition, Timmins is responsible for both of the club's Summer Development and Rookie Camps. He also oversees the development of the Canadiens prospects in Hamilton and their amateur prospects during the hockey season.

*From Canadiens.com

I like the job he's done drafting and recruiting talent,that has brought the Habs back to respectability. Great to see Alex Avtsin here and getting Tinordi these guys are going to make a difference.

[Johnny_rudeboy]

I wonder if we would have a higher appreciation of this guy had Chipchura and Fischer not gone through serious injuries during their development time.

I admit I'm not even sure exactly how serious those injuries were, and how unusual they are. As it stands though, the arguable two worst first round selections of the Timmins era are also (I think) the two first round selections of said era with the most serious injuries in development time.

Well I just hope that the draft picks of recent years do not follow the Habs trend of picks from draft years 2004, 2005, and 2006.

Of the 9 players picked in 2004, 7 are no longer in the organization. The other two Emelin and Wyman are unlikely to don a uniform.

Of the 7 players picked in 2005, 6 are no longer in the organization. Only Carey Price survived that draft.

Of the 6 players picked in 2006, 3 are no longer in the organization (50%). It remains to be seen if Ryan White, Mathieu Carle and Ben Maxwell will stay on board.

Though is is somewhat early to to tell whether the trend will continue; 2 of 9 players picked in 2007 and 1 of the 5 players picked in 2008, are already no longer with the organization.

In regards to scouting and drafting I am not comfortable with how Timmons and the organization have been doing. It appears the organization is not doing much (buliding the team) through the draft process in the way of player development/retention.

[roy_133]

Well I just hope that the draft picks of recent years do not follow the Habs trend of picks from draft years 2004, 2005, and 2006.

Of the 9 players picked in 2004, 7 are no longer in the organization. The other two Emelin and Wyman are unlikely to don a uniform.

Of the 7 players picked in 2005, 6 are no longer in the organization. Only Carey Price survived that draft.

Of the 6 players picked in 2006, 3 are no longer in the organization (50%). It remains to be seen if Ryan White, Mathieu Carle and Ben Maxwell will stay on board.

Though is is somewhat early to to tell whether the trend will continue; 2 of 9 players picked in 2007 and 1 of the 5 players picked in 2008, are already no longer with the organization.

In regards to scouting and drafting I am not comfortable with how Timmons and the organization have been doing. It appears the organization is not doing much (buliding the team) through the draft process in the way of player development/retention.

That's an unfair way to assess a scouting director, the end result is out of his control (where players end up) looking at players left in the organization from a draft doesn't tell the whole story,

In 2004, Grabovski turned into a 2nd rounder and a prospect, Streit added significant value, especially for a late round pick and Stewart provided a tiny bit of value, especially relative to where he was drafted.

2005, Guillaume was reasonably productive here and turned into Pouliot, D'ags was OK at times in Montreal and turned into a decent prospect (Palushaj), Sergei produced when he played and turned into the rights to Boyd and Ellis (we retained Boyd) and any production AT ALL from a 7th rounder is a win.

2006, Fischer was a bad pick and luckily turned into a 2nd but the scouting staff gets no credit for that, Valentenko was a part of the Gomez trade and we'll see what comes of Carle, Maxwell and White. Still a little early to assess that draft although it definitely looks like a weaker one.

Timmins was overrated a couple years ago but has done a strong job over his tenure of filling the organization up with strong depth. I believe during his time here the Habs have graduated more NHLers than any team in the league and that adds significant value. He definitely hasn't hit a big HR yet but there are guys who could still become that, Price, Subban, Leblanc are all good looking kids.

[S-Bah]

Their are a few prospects that I think will earn positions on the Habs in the next three years, I expect both Tinordi,and Bennett to be at least #3and #4 Dmen and Stejskal to be #5or6 Dman. I can see Avtsin,Kristo, Quailer all playing for the Habs. The depth in prospects will bring back our winning tradition within three years.

[S-Bah]

There will be quite a few players that will have to clear waivers at the end of this season, I hope we cam make a deal with Nashville for Zach Budish, he will be a good if not great power forward.

[Bean-Counting-Hab]

That's an unfair way to assess a scouting director, the end result is out of his control (where players end up) looking at players left in the organization from a draft doesn't tell the whole story,

In 2004, Grabovski turned into a 2nd rounder and a prospect, Streit added significant value, especially for a late round pick and Stewart provided a tiny bit of value, especially relative to where he was drafted.

2005, Guillaume was reasonably productive here and turned into Pouliot, D'ags was OK at times in Montreal and turned into a decent prospect (Palushaj), Sergei produced when he played and turned into the rights to Boyd and Ellis (we retained Boyd) and any production AT ALL from a 7th rounder is a win.

2006, Fischer was a bad pick and luckily turned into a 2nd but the scouting staff gets no credit for that, Valentenko was a part of the Gomez trade and we'll see what comes of Carle, Maxwell and White. Still a little early to assess that draft although it definitely looks like a weaker one.

Timmins was overrated a couple years ago but has done a strong job over his tenure of filling the organization up with strong depth. I believe during his time here the Habs have graduated more NHLers than any team in the league and that adds significant value. He definitely hasn't hit a big HR yet but there are guys who could still become that, Price, Subban, Leblanc are all good looking kids.

I would actually take it a step further and say you should look at what the players have accomplished/have potential to accomplish regardless of what team they play for and what we got in return for them in a trade.

For example: If Lattendresse turns into a 30 goal/year power forward then he was an excellent draft choice, even if Pouliot turned out to be a huge bust. Under this scenario, you could argue we made a bad trade (because we did not get equal value back) or we dropped the ball in player development (because Guy did not break out until leaving MTL).

Either way, it would be unfair to say it was miss or bust for the Scouting Department.

[S-Bah]

There will be quite a few players that will have to clear waivers at the end of this season, I hope we cam make a deal with Nashville for Zach Budish, he will be a good if not great power forward.

I also hope that we could make a deal for Colton Gillies two power forwards to play with Louis Leblanc.

There will be quite a few players that will have to clear waivers at the end of this season, I hope we cam make a deal with Nashville for Zach Budish, he will be a good if not great power forward.

I also hope that we could make a deal for Colton Gillies two power forwards to play with Louis Leblanc.

[cup_crazy88]

I've always been a fan of the work Timmins does. Very solid all around, makes several solid picks even in lower rounds who have the ability to don an NHL uniform. This team has been fortunate to have a fair amount of assets on the farm, although most haven't been top end talent, it has still given montreal a lot of room to manoeuvre.

[S-Bah]

The work Trevor has been doing should help when we make trades to eliminate the possibility of losing players off the waiver wire.Hopefully a good forward prospect or a draft pick which is the way Pierre Gauthier's path to greatness is headed.The big wingman we need may come from these trades that are necessary to keep our system filled with young prospects for the future.

[roy_133]

There will be quite a few players that will have to clear waivers at the end of this season, I hope we cam make a deal with Nashville for Zach Budish, he will be a good if not great power forward.

This is what Moneypuck had to say on Budish,

He's damaged goods, his skating is still bad after knee surgery in his draft year and he got into a moped incident, tore his other knee and is out for the year.

[S-Bah]

This is what Moneypuck had to say on Budish,

He's damaged goods, his skating is still bad after knee surgery in his draft year and he got into a moped incident, tore his other knee and is out for the year.

That's a bummer well I guess it's a good thing we didn't trade for him.

[S-Bah]

I'm thinking the Habs will probably sign Emelin this spring, even if he signs our defence needs to get more depth for the future.This years draft is an extremely deep one,with lots of good defencemen available.(Jarrod Rabey)6'1 238lbs shoots left,skates like the wind and can quarterback the PP sound defensively.he could be available in the fifth round.There are lots of right defencemen throughout the draft,we could draft three or four defencemen that will probably make the NHL.Scott Mayfield is another along with the USNDP team's defence. That doesn't include all the picks from the CHL(WHL,OHL,QMJHL)and Europe,it's a dream draft for the Habs.Start stockpiling other teams picks for the draft its going to be a good one.

[DA_Champion]

In the 2007 NHL entry draft, Timmins drafted

Ryan McDonagh and Max Pacioretty in the 1st round

PK Subban in the 2nd round

Olivier Fortier and Yannick Weber in the 3rd round

We could end up with three productive roster players from that draft year, well done.

[S-Bah]

In the 2007 NHL entry draft, Timmins drafted

Ryan McDonagh and Max Pacioretty in the 1st round

PK Subban in the 2nd round

Olivier Fortier and Yannick Weber in the 3rd round

We could end up with three productive roster players from that draft year, well done.

The 2007 draft also gleaned Joe Stejskal a pick that maybe a genuine surprise for the Habs and Andrew Conboy a raw talent with good size,speed and strength.He could become a very good two-way forward that goes into the hard areas. the boards,corners and front of the net while making the opponents play an honest game,giving the talented players room to make plays without fear of cheap shots.Both of these prospects play hard and finish their checks,making their opponents earn everything and keep their heads up.They are the types of players that excel in the playoffs,Conboy will be a bottom six forward and Stejskal will be a larger version of Josh Gorges with a great shot from the point.(95 MPH)

[S-Bah]

I'm wondering if the Habs will try to sign both Emelin and Korneev from AK Bars Kazan.It might make the transition to NA hockey easier for them and the Habs.Timmins should be all over this,as they could be a huge part of our defence for a decade.

[roy_133]

I'm wondering if the Habs will try to sign both Emelin and Korneev from AK Bars Kazan.It might make the transition to NA hockey easier for them and the Habs.Timmins should be all over this,as they could be a huge part of our defence for a decade.

I'm not sure it would be up to Timmins to bring them over but anyway they'd both want guaranteed NHL spots to leave Russia.

[S-Bah]

I'm not sure it would be up to Timmins to bring them over but anyway they'd both want guaranteed NHL spots to leave Russia.

Emelin is the better player in my estimation and the one with a style conducive to the NA game.Potentially the best defenceman not playing in North America.

[Guest Regis2]

I'm wondering if the Habs will try to sign both Emelin and Korneev from AK Bars Kazan.It might make the transition to NA hockey easier for them and the Habs.Timmins should be all over this,as they could be a huge part of our defence for a decade.

A decade

If they were to sign and come over they would become UFA's way before that and chances of PG offering a 10 yr deal is slim IMO

[S-Bah]

A decade

If they were to sign and come over they would become UFA's way before that and chances of PG offering a 10 yr deal is slim IMO

Did I say a 10 year deal would be offered,Emelin,Philips,Kaberle are available this summer two as UFA's.The Habs will have a chance to sign players without losing any and come out younger with more talent.Looking forward to the next couple of years and having a powerhouse once again.In the Montreal Canadiens I trust.

[Guest Regis2]

Did I say a 10 year deal would be offered,Emelin,Philips,Kaberle are available this summer two as UFA's.The Habs will have a chance to sign players without losing any and come out younger with more talent.Looking forward to the next couple of years and having a powerhouse once again.In the Montreal Canadiens I trust.

No Sir you did not

But you did write " they could be a huge part of our defence for a decade " and for that to happen they have to be signed with the Montreal Canadiens organization for 10 yrs ( = decade ) and I don't think that would ever happen as players become UFA's earlier in their careers . The last player to be a part of Habs for 10 yrs was the ex Captain and # 79 is nearing 10 .

As for having " the chance to sign players without losing any and come out younger ".....we know what type of signings that has led to in the past

See Gill, Spacek , Hammer ........players that some fans now can't wait until their contracts are up

Go Habs Go

[S-Bah]

Since last I looked Kaberle was shipped to Boston to prove Brian Burke is still with their program.What a coup Chiarelli has made with that signing!Trevor the Habs need Emelin in the worst way and Philips could come in handy as well.

[Timmeh04]

So since over the past two seasons we've seen a veritable explosion in the number of injuries to the team, we've obviously had to bring up a lot of our boys from Hamilton. Since I'm assuming Trevor is in charge of their development, and we've had just about two seasons of AHL call-ups, I'm wondering what everyone thinks about his performance (mostly because I have no idea how to gauge his success/failure).

Are we in the middle of the pack in development? Top tier? Bottom tier?

and of course my favorite question: why?

[S-Bah]

While watching the Frozen Four April 7th & 9th,I will be paying attention to all the Habs picks as well as Scooter Vaughn's game this guy could be another Jimmy Roberts with speed and it won't cost us a pick or a player Perfect.Vaughn is a converted defenceman playing forward on the Wolverines,this kid can play the checking game to a tee and provide a little offence.At the very least he would be a great addition for the Bulldogs in the playoffs.