29Dryden29 Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 http://www.torontosun.com/sports/hockey/20...2/14689546.html Article in the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathradio Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Maybe tie the pay of the commissionner to the average pay of players instead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtl_-lt-3emHabs Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Maybe tie the pay of the commissionner to the average pay of players instead... Good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpem-can Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 I don't care how much the commish makes I just want to see this little weasel out of our game...give the money to someone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 If he's so worried about the future of the NHL or some of the struggling teams in the southern states, why doesn't he take a pay cut? I dislike him more every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bailey1 Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Bettman Makes Too Much Money Fix** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29Dryden29 Posted July 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Bettman Makes Too Much Money Fix** Ya the edit function on this site doesn't last long enough when I realised I had made the spelling error I couldn't fix it lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracie12 Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Ya the edit function on this site doesn't last long enough when I realised I had made the spelling error I couldn't fix it lol. Fixed. As for the pay...who doesnt make too much money in hockey? lol. Regardless of his salary I think he is and has always been the wrong person for the job. If he were making 20,000,000 or 20,000 Id still want to see him replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathradio Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Fixed. As for the pay...who doesnt make too much money in hockey? lol. Regardless of his salary I think he is and has always been the wrong person for the job. If he were making 20,000,000 or 20,000 Id still want to see him replaced. Moneypuck once said that he met few sports fans who were happy with league management in any sport. Even if Yzerman or Gretzky were placed as Commissionner instead, how many more fans would be happy with the NHL's front office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bailey1 Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 I wonder what the Comm. of the NBA, NFL, and NBA make? More then Buttman, probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29Dryden29 Posted July 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Fixed. As for the pay...who doesnt make too much money in hockey? lol. Regardless of his salary I think he is and has always been the wrong person for the job. If he were making 20,000,000 or 20,000 Id still want to see him replaced. Thanks Jedi and I agree he could make a dollar and it would be too much and I hope he fails miserably and very soon. I think if he saddles the other owners with the Yotes bills much longer he will see a quick end to his employment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathradio Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 But his end is near. The year where the Board of Governors would decide that enough is enough with the Coyotes and authorize a relocation, Bettman will be ousted shortly thereafter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteenIsThaFuture Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 All sports commissioners make that kind of salary. NFL Goodell 10.9 NBA Stern 10.0 MLB Selig 18.35 NHL Bettman 7.23 The commissioner makes money usually depending on the performance of the league, and his % of league revenue for his salary is right around the other leagues at 0.25%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 That's actually not that bad. Bud Selig turned a blind eye to steroids for 10 years and harmed an entire generation of baseball and he makes nearly 20 million a year. David Stern has the NBA operating at a loss of hundreds of millions a year and he's pulling down 10 million. Roger Goodell, in my opinion the best league commissioner of the bunch, also makes around 10 million. So Bettman making 7 million for a league that is now operating in the green financially isn't that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteenIsThaFuture Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Moneypuck once said that he met few sports fans who were happy with league management in any sport. Even if Yzerman or Gretzky were placed as Commissionner instead, how many more fans would be happy with the NHL's front office? Those who are upset with Bettman need to read what the NHL was like in the days of Ziegler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracie12 Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Moneypuck once said that he met few sports fans who were happy with league management in any sport. Even if Yzerman or Gretzky were placed as Commissionner instead, how many more fans would be happy with the NHL's front office? True, there would always be detractors, but at least - if we use your examples of guys like Yzerman or Gretz - you would end up with true ambassadors of the game who also KNOW the game. Some would argue the very reason bettman was brought in was his lack of knowledge of the game (and the mistakes that had been previously made) but even if i subscribe to that, I would say his usefulness has run out. Those who are upset with Bettman need to read what the NHL was like in the days of Ziegler. True, but just because Bettman was better than Ziegler, doesnt mean he's any damned good replacing Stalin with Khrushchev (yes I know there were 2 others inbetween, but you get my point) was an improvement - but only in some areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathradio Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Yzerman or Gretzky would acknowledge that hockey must be brought back where it belongs. This means the Coyotes and one Eastern Conference team (could be Atlanta Thrashers, NY Islanders or Florida Panthers) both relocate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteenIsThaFuture Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 True, there would always be detractors, but at least - if we use your examples of guys like Yzerman or Gretz - you would end up with true ambassadors of the game who also KNOW the game. And Gretzky also has that acute business sense. That last franchise he owned is doing splendid Some would argue the very reason bettman was brought in was his lack of knowledge of the game (and the mistakes that had been previously made) but even if i subscribe to that, I would say his usefulness has run out. I'm not going to comment on that because I don't know intricately Bettman's hockey knowledge either today or when he was hired. Regardless the Commissioner doesn't change the rules or impact the on-ice game that's on the players and the GM's in their committee meetings so true hockey knowledge is limited for Bettman's job other than being an Ambassador. True, but just because Bettman was better than Ziegler, doesnt mean he's any damned good replacing Stalin with Khrushchev (yes I know there were 2 others inbetween, but you get my point) was an improvement - but only in some areas. I'd argue a decent amount of pro-Bettman arguments, my biggest beef with him has been the TV deals as that is the main thing holding the NHL back and he presents himself badly at times as the public image for the league. However the business success, as well as the overall direction of the league has been a positive change since Ziegler IMO. Yzerman or Gretzky would acknowledge that hockey must be brought back where it belongs. This means the Coyotes and one Eastern Conference team (could be Atlanta Thrashers, NY Islanders or Florida Panthers) both relocate. That was on mostly the owners who wanted expansion fees, how many teams have gone South since Gary took over? I think it's like 4. The rest of them were under Ziegler and it was because of greedy owners, no matter who the Commish was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee-X Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Yzerman or Gretzky would acknowledge that hockey must be brought back where it belongs. This means the Coyotes and one Eastern Conference team (could be Atlanta Thrashers, NY Islanders or Florida Panthers) both relocate. I'm not so sure about that one. While I don't doubt that both of them have a crystal clear appreciation of what hockey means to Canadians, I doubt they'd start frantically trying to move franchises North. Coincidentally, the two teams that they have been involved with on the management side are located in Arizona and Florida. They don't need to listen to the media hype about what cities do or don't 'deserve' teams, because they've seen first hand that even these Southern teams have fans who care about the game. Now that's not to say that a team like Phoenix wouldn't be moved if it made smart business sense to do so. But as for those two being more likely to move a franchise than Bettman... well, you certainly didn't see Gretzky saying anything ultra-nationalistic when the Coyotes were in the middle of their court drama last year. As a side note, I do think Gary Bettman is an arrogant jerk, but I weirldy enjoy having him as the comissionner as a result. I think he actually plays up that part of his personality in interviews and the like just to try and provoke a reaction. It's a little fun to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Yzerman or Gretzky would acknowledge that hockey must be brought back where it belongs. This means the Coyotes and one Eastern Conference team (could be Atlanta Thrashers, NY Islanders or Florida Panthers) both relocate. Who knows? Gretzky invested a significant amount of money in the Coyotes post retirement, he must have been at least somewhat convinced hockey can work there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathradio Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Is there another Western Conference team that could be moved? And yes, Bettman is paid too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfrancis Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 He's paid too much... as defined by whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathradio Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 He's paid too much... as defined by whom? The definitions vary so much that it is virtually impossible to create any consensus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357908_1475251331 Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 i know for a fact that there was and perhaps is a women's basketball league and i think bettman could do the same thing for that idea as he could for the nhl. so let's leave calling him gender driven names out of this ok? i 've just been imformed no one has called him a gender driven name... SO THAT"S A PLUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 so let's leave calling him gender driven names out of this ok? i 've just been imformed no one has called him a gender driven name... SO THAT"S A PLUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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