AK-1 Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Alexander Avtsin HEIGHT: 6' 2" WEIGHT: 198 SHOOTS: RIGHT BORN: 19 MAR 1991 (AGE 20) BIRTHPLACE: MOSCOW, RUSSIA DRAFTED: MTL / 2009 NHL ENTRY DRAFT ROUND: 4TH (109TH OVERALL) PROSPECT BIO QUOTE LIBRARY "Avtsin is a GM’s dream: a sized player with “Russian” skills and a desire to play in the NHL. [...] He had a good season in the KHL, even if he didn’t receive enough much ice-time and an injury ended his season early." - Alessandro Seren Rosso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Bah Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 I think this kid is the most under rated prospect in the system at the moment, this won't last long mark my words, he may be our best RW in decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 I think this kid is the most under rated prospect in the system at the moment, this won't last long mark my words, he may be our best RW in decades. Time will tell. We will see him in Hamilton soon enough. People are expecting him to be a top-6 forward for them right out of the gate, I think. Hopefully he is and there's no sense of regression or disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathradio Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 A top-six in Hamilton (so he can get used to the North American game) and then a Hab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp73 Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 The kid hasn't palyed a game in NA yet and we're already annointing him OK...........let's hang his jersey from the rafters now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utreder Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 It's not like his stats were good either. He could easily turn into another Pacioretty who can't finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 The kid hasn't palyed a game in NA yet and we're already annointing him OK...........let's hang his jersey from the rafters now People are excited, that's for sure. I'm curious myself as to if he can even get top-six minutes in Hamilton. I hope he does. I really do, but there's no guarantee that he will even perform well enough for that. My worst fear is that he struggles and goes back to Russia. I really hope he succeeds, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp73 Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 People are excited, that's for sure.. People get excited over every player the Habs sign I could name 5 + guys that people thought were top six and aren't even playinmg with the Habs now It's Fine to be excited but to start predicting him as a top six forward this year when there isn't even room on the top six is a little unrealsitic IMO Heck even I'm curious to see this guy play , considering the only talk in the hockey world about him , is on this board . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathradio Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 I'd hope that he is sufficiently recovered to make the team in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamesgal1 Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 People get excited over every player the Habs sign I could name 5 + guys that people thought were top six and aren't even playinmg with the Habs now It's Fine to be excited but to start predicting him as a top six forward this year when there isn't even room on the top six is a little unrealsitic IMO Heck even I'm curious to see this guy play , considering the only talk in the hockey world about him , is on this board . + 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Bah Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 I think this kid is the most under rated prospect in the system at the moment, this won't last long mark my words, he may be our best RW in decades. I say these things after following every article I could find about him over the last year or more. Big things are expected for Avtsin in Russia and they have been watching him play for a few years. So even though I only see clips of his play so I will defer to those that have compared him to Ovechkin and expect great things as they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChitownHabby Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 If he puts up Brock Trotter numbers he will be in the NHL by the trade deadline but let's be realistic, he needs at least a season in the AHL and then maybe he will crack the lineup as a depth player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Bah Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Good enough to dominate play in rookie camp.Day1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habcup Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 It's not like his stats were good either. He could easily turn into another Pacioretty who can't finish. You have aready begged Pac? Whow! He was not god enough at 19 so he will never be good enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habcup Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Good enough to dominate play in rookie camp.Day1. Your previous statment was fine. This kid is expected to play top 6. If he mets expectation is another thing. And yes he is underrated because he was a late/mid draft pick and he seems to have a lot of things going his way - talent, size................... Hell, this kid may have the most top end skills off all the forward prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostyHAWK Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 does anyone know if he is working on his english so he can comunicate with "teammates" better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine1One Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 If he keeps up this level of play you guys think he gets a roster spot, or we put him in hamilton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habcup Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 If he keeps up this level of play you guys think he gets a roster spot, or we put him in hamilton? Hamilton to start the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Bah Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Hamilton to start the year. That's what training camps are for to evaluate the prospects and see where it will be most beneficial to the players development to play. I believe it was established that he has a pretty good ability to speak English, so getting used to playing in smaller arenas will be the biggest hurdle for him to cross. This could be accomplished in the AHL or the NHL depending on his skill level, it sounds like his time would be better spent with the Habs with his skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 That's what training camps are for to evaluate the prospects and see where it will be most beneficial to the players development to play. I believe it was established that he has a pretty good ability to speak English, so getting used to playing in smaller arenas will be the biggest hurdle for him to cross. This could be accomplished in the AHL or the NHL depending on his skill level, it sounds like his time would be better spent with the Habs with his skill. I don't know. We haven't really seen his skill... Only read about it. I would be shocked if he had the talent level to make the NHL this season, especially so if it were straight out of camp. I fully expect that he will be starting the year in Hamilton. We are already chockablock full of forwards, with room for maybe one prospect to make the team. I don't expect that will be Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Bah Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 I don't know. We haven't really seen his skill... Only read about it. I would be shocked if he had the talent level to make the NHL this season, especially so if it were straight out of camp. I fully expect that he will be starting the year in Hamilton. We are already chockablock full of forwards, with room for maybe one prospect to make the team. I don't expect that will be Alex. Someone has a position to fill if Eller is injured, it wouldn't surprise me to see Avtsin take that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Someone has a position to fill if Eller is injured, it wouldn't surprise me to see Avtsin take that spot. But how serious is Eller's injury? I thought it was a minor injury and that he would be ready for the regular camp later this month. Even if it were more serious I cannot imagine someone like Ben Maxwell or Max Pacioretty being over-looked in favor of Alex unless he has a mind-blowingly awesome camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Bah Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 But how serious is Eller's injury? I thought it was a minor injury and that he would be ready for the regular camp later this month. Even if it were more serious I cannot imagine someone like Ben Maxwell or Max Pacioretty being over-looked in favor of Alex unless he has a mind-blowingly awesome camp. Apparently Avtsin compete level is off the chart so don't be surprised at what he can accomplish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habcup Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 it sounds like his time would be better spent with the Habs with his skill. it sounds like? What article/ Video/ report did you see or read that stated that this kid was ready for the NHL. Let's see what he can do in training camp before creating expectations. Odds are that he should be going to the AHL. But how serious is Eller's injury? I thought it was a minor injury and that he would be ready for the regular camp later this month. Even if it were more serious I cannot imagine someone like Ben Maxwell or Max Pacioretty being over-looked in favor of Alex unless he has a mind-blowingly awesome camp. Eller is not hurt seriously. Pac is likely more ready than Avtsin, especially for 3rd line duty. Even if Avtsin is NHL ready, he could still go to the A to mature and get to understand the NA game (small ice....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Bah Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 That's what training camps are for to evaluate the prospects and see where it will be most beneficial to the players development to play. I believe it was established that he has a pretty good ability to speak English, so getting used to playing in smaller arenas will be the biggest hurdle for him to cross. This could be accomplished in the AHL or the NHL depending on his skill level, it sounds like his time would be better spent with the Habs with his skill. Some players skill level will make it detrimental to send them to the AHL. I don't know. We haven't really seen his skill... Only read about it. I would be shocked if he had the talent level to make the NHL this season, especially so if it were straight out of camp. I fully expect that he will be starting the year in Hamilton. We are already chockablock full of forwards, with room for maybe one prospect to make the team. I don't expect that will be Alex. I think most GM's knew his skill level they just didn't trust the Russian factor. it sounds like? What article/ Video/ report did you see or read that stated that this kid was ready for the NHL. Let's see what he can do in training camp before creating expectations. Odds are that he should be going to the AHL. That is what training camp is for. Eller is not hurt seriously. Pac is likely more ready than Avtsin, especially for 3rd line duty. Even if Avtsin is NHL ready, he could still go to the A to mature and get to understand the NA game (small ice....) Learning to play on smaller ice can be accomplished at the NHL level and when players have a high skill level some stay at the NHL to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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