frostyHAWK Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 What's wrong with Hochelaga-Maisonneuve? Homa's still dirty besides, i live in rosemont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theRazor67 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Another good signature. After an injury plegued season a depth move seems right to the point. Why leave cap space on the table instead of shoring up the ranks. It has been stated that our prospects might be robbed of ice by this signing, but I cannot agree. With the low dollars involved in this deal, I don't see Halpern as a hinderance. If any of the young players proves that they are ready to make the jump, they will likey get the shot ahead of Darche or Halpern. If we are injury riddled at any point, this gives us a choice, rather than needing to draw a prospect who might otherwise be better off in the AHL as far as delevopement goes. This isn't a big deal by any means, but it's a move that gains depth, which, big picture, is a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Another good signature. After an injury plegued season a depth move seems right to the point. Why leave cap space on the table instead of shoring up the ranks. It has been stated that our prospects might be robbed of ice by this signing, but I cannot agree. With the low dollars involved in this deal, I don't see Halpern as a hinderance. If any of the young players proves that they are ready to make the jump, they will likey get the shot ahead of Darche or Halpern. If we are injury riddled at any point, this gives us a choice, rather than needing to draw a prospect who might otherwise be better off in the AHL as far as delevopement goes. This isn't a big deal by any means, but it's a move that gains depth, which, big picture, is a big deal. Didn't Darche sign a 2-way contract? if so, it takes care of that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlHabsFan Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Good player and leader. Always like him in Tampa (the short time he was here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiLla Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Homa's still dirty Of course it is, I was just joking around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carey_Price Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 There's no doubt that this is a good signing for the price he came at, but not too sure if i like this move. Like many have already expressed, that 3rd line position could have been taken by a younger player. Nonetheless, we all wish you a great and healthy season. Welcome to the habs jeff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Didn't Darche sign a 2-way contract? if so, it takes care of that problem. It's 1 way I believe but it doesn't make a difference, all a 2-way really means is he gets paid less in the AHL than in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames4eva Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Didn't Darche sign a 2-way contract? if so, it takes care of that problem. I believe it was a one-way contract... he could be waivered or bought out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carey_Price Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 It's 1 way I believe but it doesn't make a difference, all a 2-way really means is he gets paid less in the AHL than in the NHL. That's not ALL it means. It means if he gets sent down he can be claimed by another team, which I am certain you already knew. I can honestly see D'arche getting picked up by another team to join their farm team. Edit: I see you were having a discussion with another member and I missed it all, so my reply is most likely useless, sorry lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp73 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 can honestly see D'arche getting picked up by another team to join their farm team. Darche is 34 yrs old No disrepsect but if he were to get picked it wouldn't be a great loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee-X Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 That's not ALL it means. It means if he gets sent down he can be claimed by another team, which I am certain you already knew. I can honestly see D'arche getting picked up by another team to join their farm team. Edit: I see you were having a discussion with another member and I missed it all, so my reply is most likely useless, sorry lol. Actually, Roy was right: that is all it means A two-way contract allows a player to be paid one salary for playing in the AHL and a different salary for playing in the NHL. It has nothing whatsoever to do with where the player can actually play or whther he can be claimed on waivers. A player who has played a certain number of games in the NHL must pass waivers when being sent down to the AHL. It doesn't matter if he has a two-way contract worth $60,000/$500,000 or if he's got a one-way contract worth $5,000,000. The only difference would be that if the $5M guy DID clear waivers he'd still be paid $5M to play for Hamilton... which the Moulsons probably wouldn't be too fond of, but which wouldn't count against the Canadiens' cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee-X Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 As for this signing, like most have said it's not a huge thing but I like it for one reason: injuries. It sucks to think that we could be bitten by that dreaded bug again this year, but it's probably going to happen at some point. When Pleky or Gomez goes down it will be nice to still have four centres in the line-up who are actually capable of playing centre. Not to mention Halpern's faceoff skills are great, and as someone mentioned he can be confidently thrown out on the first PK wave to save the energy of guys like Pleky and Gomez. I remember the fourth line almost single-handedly costing us a few games last year, and even with these limited improvements I don't see that happening again this season. Edit: I should also add that this move actually saves the Habs a little cap space, as he probably costs us less than whatever rookie was going to be in his place instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracie12 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 The nice thing is a lot of the guys named like Begin, Bonk or Dandenault were signed to longer term, overpriced deals. Like I said before, this is a whatever signing but it's 1 year, it's cheap to the point that it's probably cheaper to keep him around than any prospect and he actually can fill some roles on the ice or sit in the press box. Not much to really like but nothing to really dislike. Exactly. Term & $$ make this a good deal. Nothing spectacular, but good solid cap management and insurance. I wonder what PG thinks about contracts like Gomez, Hamrlik etc that he inherited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromedome_mtl Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 As mentioned by others,I see this as a move that gives us little reason to dislike it; unless it turns out that he skates like Hal Gill (like skating on pavement instead of ice?)!I don't really anticipate that this will be the case,so welcome aboard Jeff!Enjoy the ride!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carey_Price Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Darche is 34 yrs old No disrepsect but if he were to get picked it wouldn't be a great loss I've seen him play for us last year but never realized he was THAT old I take back what i said earlier...i don't see him getting picked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Seriously, maybe just maybe he'll be able to afford a house on Ile-Bizarre. If not, there's always the Point or St Henri. And that's about a 5-10 minute drive from the Bell Centre. He can rent a unit where I live in the Plateau. Nice location, but the building's a little run down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Actually, Roy was right: that is all it means A two-way contract allows a player to be paid one salary for playing in the AHL and a different salary for playing in the NHL. It has nothing whatsoever to do with where the player can actually play or whther he can be claimed on waivers. A player who has played a certain number of games in the NHL must pass waivers when being sent down to the AHL. It doesn't matter if he has a two-way contract worth $60,000/$500,000 or if he's got a one-way contract worth $5,000,000. The only difference would be that if the $5M guy DID clear waivers he'd still be paid $5M to play for Hamilton... which the Moulsons probably wouldn't be too fond of, but which wouldn't count against the Canadiens' cap. Exactly. A 2-way contract has no impact on waivers nor does it allow a player to become waiver exempt. If Darche had a 2-way contract the waiver rules would apply to him the same way they do on his 1 way contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Exactly. Term & $ make this a good deal. Nothing spectacular, but good solid cap management and insurance. I wonder what PG thinks about contracts like Gomez, Hamrlik etc that he inherited. Well to be fair he was the head of pro scouting when those contracts were signed so he likely had at least some input in them and it's not as if he took over a team he had nothing to do with. His opinion obviously could have changed (as Bob's could have on them). They're obviously both overpaid so I'm sure he's not overly thrilled but on Roman, his contract being expiring actually probably has a bit of value actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xban Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 For the price, it was an ok deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 That's not ALL it means. It means if he gets sent down he can be claimed by another team, which I am certain you already knew. I can honestly see D'arche getting picked up by another team to join their farm team. Edit: I see you were having a discussion with another member and I missed it all, so my reply is most likely useless, sorry lol. If you claim a guy off waivers,, i'm pretty sure he gets a roster spot on the big club. I dont beleive he can be directly assigned to the minors of another organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Bah Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Another good signature. After an injury plegued season a depth move seems right to the point. Why leave cap space on the table instead of shoring up the ranks. It has been stated that our prospects might be robbed of ice by this signing, but I cannot agree. With the low dollars involved in this deal, I don't see Halpern as a hinderance. If any of the young players proves that they are ready to make the jump, they will likey get the shot ahead of Darche or Halpern. If we are injury riddled at any point, this gives us a choice, rather than needing to draw a prospect who might otherwise be better off in the AHL as far as delevopement goes. This isn't a big deal by any means, but it's a move that gains depth, which, big picture, is a big deal. It's sort of like getting Jimmy Roberts as a UFA at a great price. These are the moves that build great teams from the top to the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp73 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 These are the moves that build great teams from the top to the bottom. It's a one year contract As others have said it's a " whatever " signing ....it doesn't do anything for the franchise long term . It " maybe " gets them from 9 th to 8 th .........if that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekHockeyCoach Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Let's continue the conversation in the Halpern thread found here: http://forum.canadiens.com/index.php?showtopic=25539 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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