weepingminotaur Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Apparently, Boyd may stay with the team if unclaimed, but it gives the Habs the option of unloading him and then replacing him at a later date if necessary or else sending him down to the minors. However, I'd be inclined to think that if he goes down, he would have to pass by recall waivers on the way up, which means he likely wouldn't be back. After all, if he's playing well enough to be recalled, another team might jump at a guy they'd only have to pay 300k for. And if he's only playing average, why not recall another guy who doesn't have to pass through waivers and who won't cost you something if he's claimed. I think the Habs will sit pat on this move for now and either keep him for a bit as the 13th guy or else send him down and stay at 22 players. A subsequent roster move may be in the works (either a call-up or maybe even a potential acquisition), but I don't think it's imminent at this point. Good analysis of the situation. I concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs-24 Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 got to admit its a pretty sneaky way of getting laps some second line time, or is it going to be first in this low scoring top line show. i mean i have to say the one time the tv focused on boyd's face, which was after taking a penalty, he looked worse for wear. he didn't look like he had a team, and judging from that i can see the point of letting him stew, but i'll say this too- who in the world is going to pick him up? like no one. near guaranteed. when 29 other teams pass on him hopefully that will give him the wake up he needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerplay2009 Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Boyd was too good before he came here for no one to pick him up. He is like half of the other players that get picked up. Those who enter the pressure-cooker better be prepared to come out a little singed. He was just a little more than singed. Quite well overdone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 People here seem to be upset that we may lose Boyd and end up having nothing to show for SK74. But honestly, SK74 was barely able to stay in the line-up here and had a reputation of being a hindrance to the team, whether that was the truth or not. So I don't think we can reasonably have expected to obtain something in return for SK's potential alone. We made a trade in exchange for what SK was worth at the time, and at the time, I think the consensus was that PG did well to get something in return for SK that might be of value to us. Thus far, it hasn't worked out but every trade is a gamble. We may yet see Boyd play well for us, but even if we don't, I don't think we can lament what Sergei may have given us because it was clear he didn't have a future in this organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 So... He's gone unclaimed so far? I'm not sure how this process works. Do we have to wait until noon time today before receiving any news on what might happen? As far as I am concerned, I am not too worried about losing him. I just see it as another opportunity for a prospect in Hamilton if it comes down to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmarcello Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 I'm not worried about getting "nothing" for SK. If AK can continue to improve that will be reward enough. Having SK in the dressing room right now would not help the team. As for Boyd being, I can't see it hurting the team at all. I'd rather see White in his place anyways. I'm also not ready to see Pacioretty go just yet, despite his big mouth. If this move makes room for a top 6 slot for Patches, I'm ok with that. I've liked what I've seen from Eller so far, but he really could use a bit more time in Hamilton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 As for Boyd being, I can't see it hurting the team at all. I'd rather see White in his place anyways. I'm also not ready to see Pacioretty go just yet, despite his big mouth. If this move makes room for a top 6 slot for Patches, I'm ok with that. I've liked what I've seen from Eller so far, but he really could use a bit more time in Hamilton. I think Palushaj deserives a chance on the team before Ryan White does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmarcello Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 I haven't seen Palushaj enough to have an opinion of him. I just know that I loved how White handled himself in the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 I haven't seen Palushaj enough to have an opinion of him. I just know that I loved how White handled himself in the preseason. Well, Palushaj has been scoring in Hamilton and White has not. From the one game I watched (Hamilton against Oklahoma) White looked terrible, IMO. Constantly turning the puck over in the defensive zone. Ryan is, at best, a 4th line energy player, IMO. Palushaj MIGHT be something more. He may be able to break the top-six one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepingminotaur Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Well, Palushaj has been scoring in Hamilton and White has not. From the one game I watched (Hamilton against Oklahoma) White looked terrible, IMO. Constantly turning the puck over in the defensive zone. Ryan is, at best, a 4th line energy player, IMO. Palushaj MIGHT be something more. He may be able to break the top-six one day. He did that a fair bit last season with the Habs and it sometimes led to goals against. This is why I just don't get the Ryan White love. He's a fourth-line spare part, and not even a defensively responsible spare part. I don't follow the Bulldogs, so I don't know who has earned the right to be first in line for a promotion to the big league, but I sincerely hope that the callup makes sense in terms of our overall roster need. If we need a top-six forward, let's call up a top-six forward, not a grinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 So... He's gone unclaimed so far? I'm not sure how this process works. Do we have to wait until noon time today before receiving any news on what might happen? As far as I am concerned, I am not too worried about losing him. I just see it as another opportunity for a prospect in Hamilton if it comes down to that. The way i understand it JR is that all teams have till noon to put in a claim. The lowest ranked team putting in a claim would get his rights but would have to make a roster space for him on the big team,,, as he couldnt be assigned to their minor league team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus-T Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 There are reasons for this. Links to advertise personal blogs is prohibited on this forum. Only links that are allowed to be posted are for credible sports news agencies. Thank you. GHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 He did that a fair bit last season with the Habs and it sometimes led to goals against. This is why I just don't get the Ryan White love. He's a fourth-line spare part, and not even a defensively responsible spare part. I don't follow the Bulldogs, so I don't know who has earned the right to be first in line for a promotion to the big league, but I sincerely hope that the callup makes sense in terms of our overall roster need. If we need a top-six forward, let's call up a top-six forward, not a grinder. I like Ryan White, I just don't think he deserves to play in Montreal like the whole media world did after training camp. I hope he develops enough to make the club one day, but I'm not sure that he will be reliable. Palushaj had 11 points through six games (hockeydb), and I believe he's been playing with Pacioretty and Desharnais. I'm not sure what his point totals are now. I remember him having decent size from camp and looked to be ready to play NHL minutes to me. I would like to see him in action again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabSteve Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 he was not claimed, so all of that was pretty much for nothing since Martin already stated hed stay with Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 he was not claimed, so all of that was pretty much for nothing since Martin already stated hed stay with Montreal. Apparently so. Too bad really. I was hoping to see if we might call-up someone from the farm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Well it certainly sounded like the Habs were going to keep Boyd in Montreal for now... but the fact that they were willing to let him go for nothing tells us they believe he is easily replaceable. JM also seemed to be a little hesitant to say whether this had any other implications, so it's certainly possible the coaches and management are going to discuss what options are available in terms of adding another player from the minors or via trade or free agency. I still believe a player like Bill Guerin can be of value to us for this one season, giving us another guy who can play in the top 6 without JM having to sweat over moving Benny back up the line-up. If Guerin slots in, we could see something like this: AK-Pleks-Gionta Cammalleri-Gomez-Guerin Pouliot-Halpern-Darche Pyatt-Eller-Lapierre Moen which is in my opinion a deeper line-up, with guys playing the roles they should be playing. The advantages to Guerin would be that he said he would be interested in coming here and he would likely be very cheap; given no one has made him an offer yet, he can't be too choosy if he wants to play in the NHL. He would add size, grit, and some scoring ability, particularly around the crease area, where no one on our team goes consistently. I'm not against bringing up a guy from Hamilton to fill out the top 6 either, but I don't think these experiments with Laps or Pyatt or Moen are of long-term benefit. So to me, if Pouliot is still not an option for JM, adding a Guerin or a Pacioretty or a Desharnais could be of more use to us than keeping Boyd as a spare part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathradio Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Well, Palushaj has been scoring in Hamilton and White has not. From the one game I watched (Hamilton against Oklahoma) White looked terrible, IMO. Constantly turning the puck over in the defensive zone. Ryan is, at best, a 4th line energy player, IMO. Palushaj MIGHT be something more. He may be able to break the top-six one day. That day would most likely come after Pacioretty broke the top-six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regis2 Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 I still believe a player like Bill Guerin can be of value to us for this one season, . The advantages to Guerin would be that he said he would be interested in coming here and he would likely be very cheap; Interesting I had not read or heard that he would be interested in coming to Montreal I would have thought, at his age, if he was going to play, he would wnat to do it with a team that has a legitimate shot at the CUp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innis_Mor Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Not at all surprised. Boyd has not played well, and has been easy to push off the puck. Good decision; I couldn't see him improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Interesting I had not read or heard that he would be interested in coming to Montreal I would have thought, at his age, if he was going to play, he would wnat to do it with a team that has a legitimate shot at the CUp Source is Tony Marinaro, so you can decide what you want based on that, but he claims to have spoken to Guerin directly. The Habs have not contacted Guerin, so this doesn't seem to be the team's plan right now, but who knows what they'll decide if and when the Max Lapierre experiment draws to a close. Guerin is well past his prime but he's a useful piece in a puzzle and importantly, he can provide some toughness that we've been missing in our top 6. At this point, if you're Guerin, I would understand not wanting to play for a bottom-feeder like Florida or the NYI but Montreal made a run to the East finals last year and knocked his team out, so he had a first-hand look at what Montreal is capable of. The odds of us winning a cup are low of course, but I think he'd be happy getting onto a team with a decent shot at the playoffs and where there's fan support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnipegJet Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 I thought he had a good start to the season but really trailed off in the last few weeks. Hope he finds his feet again wherever he gets his next chance, be it with the Habs, another team, or in the AHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColRouleBleu Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 No one claimed him, he's still with the Habs. This thread has run its course. Closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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