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Because trade speculations are fun, unless they come from Eklund.

I think it is interesting that New Jersey, Ottawa, and Calgary are all doing very badly this year, and as such they are in a position where they might want to unload their star players. During the game yesterday, RDS informed me that Calgary only has 4 players on its rosters that it has drafted since 2000, or maybe it was 2001. That is pathetic. They have never made the second round since their trip to the stanley cup finals.

It might be in their interest to trade Jarom Iginla, if they can get a pair of 1st rounders for him. For a crappy team they have a lot of solid players locked in long-term deals at market-value, Iginla, Bouwmeester, Reghr ...

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PG said in his mid season update he doesn't like the concept of the trade deadline. He said it is too close to the end of the season for players to develop chemistry and we may give up assets for no reason. So I predict he will only make small depth moves like last season and wait for the offseason for anything major unless the right deal comes his way.

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Because trade speculations are fun, unless they come from Eklund.

I think it is interesting that New Jersey, Ottawa, and Calgary are all doing very badly this year, and as such they are in a position where they might want to unload their star players. During the game yesterday, RDS informed me that Calgary only has 4 players on its rosters that it has drafted since 2000, or maybe it was 2001. That is pathetic. They have never made the second round since their trip to the stanley cup finals.

It might be in their interest to trade Jarom Iginla, if they can get a pair of 1st rounders for him. For a crappy team they have a lot of solid players locked in long-term deals at market-value, Iginla, Bouwmeester, Reghr ...

Calgary arent doing as bad as people make out, Iggy probably wouldnt waive his NTC regardless

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Calgary arent doing as bad as people make out, Iggy probably wouldnt waive his NTC regardless

Jay Feaster is nobody's fool so don't expect any blockbuster trades from Calgary,dealing from a position of strength would be the only way I see him trading.Unless a team throws an incredible offer I don't see him budging,and he has stated that he won't be trading any players that make up the core group in Calgary.

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It might be in their interest to trade Jarom Iginla, if they can get a pair of 1st rounders for him. For a crappy team they have a lot of solid players locked in long-term deals at market-value, Iginla, Bouwmeester, Reghr ...

Iginla is on the decline. He hasnt put up elite numbers since 2008-09 and he hasnt put up "goal scorer" numbers since 07-08. Thats not to say he's a bad player - he would still be a very solid addition to any team but I cant see him ever fetching 2 first rounders -especially not after the phil kessel debacle in Toronto. Maybe a 1st and a prospect, but that would be all. I personally dont see calgary trading him anyway. Unless he himself wants to get moved (a la raymond bourque) for a better chance at the cup.

PG said in his mid season update he doesn't like the concept of the trade deadline. He said it is too close to the end of the season for players to develop chemistry and we may give up assets for no reason. So I predict he will only make small depth moves like last season and wait for the offseason for anything major unless the right deal comes his way.

I fully agree. Depth moves (bottom 6 forwards or third pairing/specialist dmen) would most likely be it at trade deadline. Thats not to say he'd refuse if some steal of a deal came along, but its unlikely. That said, I wouldnt be surprised at all to see him make a larger scale move before the deadline. I know weber has looked good and PK & Wiz are filling in well over last year's group, but we're still one injury away from some serious trouble. I would be quite surprised if he didnt have something big in the works right now - whether or not it materializes is another thing.

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I fully agree. Depth moves (bottom 6 forwards or third pairing/specialist dmen) would most likely be it at trade deadline. Thats not to say he'd refuse if some steal of a deal came along, but its unlikely. That said, I wouldnt be surprised at all to see him make a larger scale move before the deadline. I know weber has looked good and PK & Wiz are filling in well over last year's group, but we're still one injury away from some serious trouble. I would be quite surprised if he didnt have something big in the works right now - whether or not it materializes is another thing.

I would actually look at the trade deadline as an opportunity to try and deal overpaid veterans to other teams. Despite the depth hit it would cost us going into the playoffs, I think we would be better off in the long run if we could find a trade partner for players like Spacek, Moen, or AK46. The question is whether we think we have a better shot at the Cup this year or over the next 2-3 years.

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I don't think that the Devils will do much, as they are playing like the Devils we have known for so long again. Its too late this year, but they could be a top team next year again. Calgary is also doing better and getting in playoff contention again. I think that both GMs will look at their team and the current success, and they won't change a fixed team.

I also think the PG will do nothing, except for trade for depth guys like he last year with Dominic Moore.

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Beauchemin gone to the Ducks for Lupul, Gardiner and a 4th rounder in 2013 lol.

Usually when you have no hope of making the playoffs you plan for future seasons no? A mediocre prospect and a late-round pick won't help much... This move just strikes me as plain stupid for Toronto lol

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With the recent rash of injuries to key players (on some teams) it now appears that getting that top 6 forward is going to be a lot more costly and difficult to do leading up to the deadline. For sure Pittsburg will be looking for a boost with Malkin gone and ditto the Bruins without Savard. If thats also our goal,, then PG has his work cut out for him.

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I also think the PG will do nothing, except for trade for depth guys like he last year with Dominic Moore.

Personally, I don’t really see any of those depth-style trades in the cards for us this year. We already went out and got our Dominic Moore when we signed Halpern. Moore turned out to be a great addition last year but it’s a lot smarter to get these guys at the beginning of the season like we did this year than it is to trade for them and give up valuable draft picks.

Besides, we’ve got plenty of younger guys who can fill out those depth spots really well. Last year outside of a few games before the all-star break we had very, very limited success with any of the forwards that we brought up (although, granted, there weren’t many). Moore was more necessary for a playoff run because bringing up any of the kids would have hurt the team. This year we’ve got guys like Desharnais, Eller and Patches playing with us and doing as good a job as any rental player that could be had cheaply. Keeping them around instead of trading for someone new doesn’t hurt us in the short term, it’s great for their development in the long term and it doesn’t cost us any draft picks.

For me there are three things that PG could do that would make me happy at the deadline.

1) Trade for a top-pairing defensemen. We may have a problem with scoring, but I don’t think that our problem is with depth so much as it is that we have lots of pretty good scorers and no real great scorers. Trading some of our offensive guys for a top-tier defender probably wouldn’t hurt our scoring that much, as there is probably someone else on the team who could take their spot on a line and almost match their production.

2) Trade for the future, as BigTed mentioned earlier. Personally I love how our team is playing on most nights, but realistically you’d have to think that we’d have a better shot winning at some point in the next few years than we do this year. Most of the core offensive guys aren’t going anywhere, our young players should get better and (most importantly) in another year we hopefully won’t be missing our all-star defenceman and another top-four guy going into the playoffs. I hope for a great run this year, but realistically playing without Markov (or a suitable replacement) really isn’t a recipe for success

3) Nothing. Honestly, if he can’t make one of the other two things happen I’m hoping Gauthier stands firm and starts concentrating on who he wants to resign when the season’s over.

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I think Toronto made a great trade. They got a draft pick and a blue chip defensive prospect for giving up a defenseman they don't need. The right decision for Toronto is to sell, sell, sell.

I think Anaheim overpaid for Beauchemin but Gardiner doesn't really seem to be a blue chip prospect either, at least according to Bob McKenzie.

In general terms, Gardiner is not considered a blue-chip or elite or can't miss NHL prospect but he is by no means a longshot either. A "solid" or "decent" prospect, according to a number of scouts surveyed by TSN, but still with a lot to prove.

http://tsn.ca/columnists/bob_mckenzie/?id=353114

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I think Anaheim overpaid for Beauchemin but Gardiner doesn't really seem to be a blue chip prospect either, at least according to Bob McKenzie.

In general terms, Gardiner is not considered a blue-chip or elite or can't miss NHL prospect but he is by no means a longshot either. A "solid" or "decent" prospect, according to a number of scouts surveyed by TSN, but still with a lot to prove.

http://tsn.ca/columnists/bob_mckenzie/?id=353114

He'll be a top 4 defenseman.

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