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Habs Trade Ben Maxwell And A 4th For Brent Sopel And Nigel Dawes


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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=355210

I don't mind Sopel, he can be a valuable lower-pairing guy and may well be useful for the playoffs. No clue what we want with another undersized forward like Dawes though? I rather we kept that that fourth rounder. Maxwell wasn't part of the plan any longer, Desharnais and Eller are fighting for his spot in the lineup.

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Nigel Dawes Stats Good AHL numbers and okay NHL stats.. i only see him getting time if the same thing that happens to our D happens to our forwards(im scared just thinking about it)

We only gave up a 4th rounder and a prospect who clearly did not fit into the organizations plans anytime soon so i don't mind this trade.

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We clearly don't need Dawes, that's why I find acquiring him a little weird, unless Atlanta insisted on getting some contracts off the books. Sopel itself could be a nice addition, a pending UFA plus he and Hainsey were Atlanta's only defencemen with a positive +/- rating. Bogosian and Oduya are -16 and -14 respectively, just saying ;)

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Also, according to Arpon Basu, "Sopel led the Thrashers in shorthanded TOI at 3:21 per game and was 2nd in blocked shots with 130 in 59 GP."

Sounds like a nice replacement for Gorges with more size. we'll need that if we're going to make any noise in the playoffs.

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Does this mean another Dman is on the way out of MTL? With this trade we now have Sopel, Subban, The Wiz, Weber, Hamrlik, Gill, Mara, Picard and possibly Spacek on D. That could be 9 defenceman depending on Spacek's status. Someone's got to go.

I like this deal more than the Mara one. I think Sopel brings a better overall package and some experience from his Cup win last year. It also gives us a good PK guy who can play the right side, since all our other defensive D men are lefties. Maxwell wasn't part of the plan, so Dawes for Maxwell is essentially a wash and may even benefit us in the long run.

I agree that there is now a log-jam on D though. Throw in Gorges and MArkov for next season and the Habs will have a lot of chocies to make, since only Subban and Spacek are signed through 2012 and the other 9 are UFA's or RFA's. There should be some serious competition within the D corps now to show who should be given a job next year. For this season, I think Picard is getting squeezed out, possibly back down to the minors (unless the unlikely happens and he is claimed). I imagine Spacek is out long-term, and then the other 7 become the guys we carry, with Weber likely being the 7th guy. If Spacek is ready to go, ot if the Habs decide to hang on to Picard, Weber could either go back down or be used as trade bait. However, i think it's in the Habs best interest to hang onto Weber for next year unless we can parlay him into a decent forward or unless we know for sure we can lock up Wis.

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The Habs overpaid.

Dawes is basically a straight swap for Maxwell... neither of them will be playing for the club regularly. That leaves Sopel for a 4th round pick. I'd say it's probably a pretty even trade.

I'm a little curious though as to who Sopel replaces in the top 6. I'm assuming Spacek is out long term, so that leaves Subban, Hammer, Gill, Wisniewski, and then the best 2 out of 3 of Mara, Weber, and Sopel.

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Sopel isn't exactly great at skating or stick handling, but he makes up for the lack of speed and stick work with his will to sacrifice the body. He is definitely a good guy all around and is a shot blocking machine. Sometimes I hated watching him in Chicago because he isn't the most skilled defenseman when compared to Keith, Seabrook, etc., but he definitely can make a difference on the blue line and is one of the elite shot blockers in the league. He is a very graet guy and brought the Stanley Cup to the Chicago Gay Pride Parade this summer in honor of Brendan Burke. His family still resides in Chicago and I cannot help but hope he comes back after this season, as he has expressed love for the city and a desire to live there after hockey.

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Gauthier has now traded two draft picks and a top prospect who hasnt worked out so far but is still young for two #6 D-Men who were healthy scratches on two average team. I would have rathered him package it all together for a #4 D-Man who can actually contribute instead of just finding two guys to plug holes. Nothing against Sopel hes had a pretty solid career but come on Gauthier take a risk.

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The addition of Dawes is to replace Maxwell's production for Hamilton. Nothing else. I guess Atlanta wanted Maxwell. Sopel will be a good addition for the stretch and post-season. I don't mind this deal as we didn't give up too much, IMO.

Agreed. This move was a short term fix to replace Gorges imho. Adding a guy fresh off a stanley cup win doesnt hurt either. Its definitely a rental move, but lets face it, Maxwell was likely never going to get a shot here. Would have rather not given up a 4th, but such is life. I suspect Pierre will find a way to regain some picks with future deals anyway.

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Gauthier has now traded two draft picks and a top prospect who hasnt worked out so far but is still young for two #6 D-Men who were healthy scratches on two average team. I would have rathered him package it all together for a #4 D-Man who can actually contribute instead of just finding two guys to plug holes. Nothing against Sopel hes had a pretty solid career but come on Gauthier take a risk.

I thought Gauthier already acquired a top 4 guy in Wisniewski this year. IMO now is not the time for our GM to take unnecessary risks, we're not going to win the Cup this year and I don't think there's a trade out there that'll change this overnight. Besides, you're not going to get a top 4 Dman for spare parts like 4th and a 5th rounder plus a guy like Maxwell who hasn't shown anything at the NHL level yet. Look at the Kaberle or even the Goligoski trades, they tend to come at a steep price.

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Besides, you're not going to get a top 4 Dman for spare parts like 4th and a 5th rounder plus a guy like Maxwell who hasn't shown anything at the NHL level yet. Look at the Kaberle or even the Goligoski trades, they tend to come at a steep price.

Exactly. That would be like PG trading away a healthy Markov for a whole whack of 5th and 6th rounders. It just doesn't work that way. Quantity is not the issue.

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I thought Gauthier already acquired a top 4 guy in Wisniewski this year. IMO now is not the time for our GM to take unnecessary risks, we're not going to win the Cup this year and I don't think there's a trade out there that'll change this overnight. Besides, you're not going to get a top 4 Dman for spare parts like 4th and a 5th rounder plus a guy like Maxwell who hasn't shown anything at the NHL level yet. Look at the Kaberle or even the Goligoski trades, they tend to come at a steep price.

Not to mention we'd have to compete with Pittsburgh for D now with Orpik out 4-6 weeks

Also, we essentially got Mara and Festerling for Lapierre, since we traded that 5th round pick back.

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Pierre has got a screaming deal getting Sopel when his team is undermanned on defence the way it is right now.Nigel Dawes will help the Bulldogs stay in the hunt for the Calder Cup in a big way,which gives our prospects in Hamilton more experience.Pierre Gauthier will not let this ship sink,and he moves swiftly to get them back into their proper shipping lane.

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