Game #6 - Bruins @ Canadiens, April 26th, 2011

[Flopperh8er]

Bruins fan checking in, heres the run down. The B's better end it tonite, if not your pesty canadiens will win game 7. I dont trust boston at all, they've seduced us before with 3 game win streaks before in the playoffs.

I dont understand the hatred for boston at all, how can you hate the most under achieving hockey franchise of the last 40 years. I dont get it. The rivalry is so lop sided in your favor lol its crazy.

prediction: 3-2 bruins in ot. Brad marchand GW.

[jedimaas]

Bruins fan checking in, heres the run down. The B's better end it tonite, if not your pesty canadiens will win game 7. I dont trust boston at all, they've seduced us before with 3 game win streaks before in the playoffs.

Welcome! The funny thing is that I actually feel the opposite: I think the habs WILL win tonight, but i have less confidence in tomorrow's match. I know we'd have the mental edge, having won 2 game 7s last year alone & the bruins/flyers debacle last season, but game 7s still scare the heck out of me.

I dont understand the hatred for boston at all, how can you hate the most under achieving hockey franchise of the last 40 years. I dont get it. The rivalry is so lop sided in your favor lol its crazy.

I think that for many of us it stems back to the 70s & even 80s. The Bruins and habs had some of the best teams in history during the 70s and for many of us, we saw players we would have lifelong admiration for (Lafleur, Dryden, Orr, Esposito, Roy, Neely, Naslund, Bourque etc). The history between these teams has been lopsided, but if you only look at the last couple of decades its been much closer.

prediction: 3-2 bruins in ot. Brad marchand GW.

Im predicting 4-1 habs, (empty netter). We're due for some bounces.

[maddienmike]

Bruins fan checking in, heres the run down. The B's better end it tonite, if not your pesty canadiens will win game 7. I dont trust boston at all, they've seduced us before with 3 game win streaks before in the playoffs.

I dont understand the hatred for boston at all, how can you hate the most under achieving hockey franchise of the last 40 years. I dont get it. The rivalry is so lop sided in your favor lol its crazy.

prediction: 3-2 bruins in ot. Brad marchand GW.

I wouldn't bet on that

Welcome to our board,perhaps the reason the Bruins never get any farther is that no one believes in them,but I can't say I blame them,it's our blind faith that gets us through many a sticky moment,like to night,yes it must be hard being a fan of a team that lets you down season after season,and a team that wins by injuring the opposition,I won't go any further on that score,I don't need to name names.It is nice to have a Bruins fan come on our board and be respectful we don't get too many of them.

GO HABS GO :lol:

[Flopperh8er]

Fair enough. Dont get me wrong the rivalry is great for the sport.

[ColRouleBleu]

renhockey renaud lavoie

James Wisniewski should play tonight. Will be a suprise if not. Yannick Weber in for David Desharnais. Benoit Pouliot out.

And if Wiz cant go, Mara plays

[kinot-1]

Time to take it to the next level. Play hard,,,make the first outlet pass, clear the crease, finish your checks, make the most of your opportunities, stay out of the box (eventually the goons will score), screen TT, and a TOTAL TEAM effort (60 min. OR MORE).

And if Wiz cant go, Mara plays

I'm surprised we haven't seen Mara in yet.

[maddienmike]

I have never been known to be a quitter

Or an on the fence sitter

I believe only positive thoughts

Are the way to get the best results

If you only think you can

That will always make you "an also ran"

That's why I know we will win tonight

That's why I know we can get it right

I don't care how many they score

Just as long as we score one more

I don't care if it's make or break

This is a game we are going to take

There is no way around this or an excuse

Our team needs all the positives they can use

So come on fans get behind our guys

That's where in victory lies

From every one we need a best effort

Otherwise we might come up short

There is no way that will unfold

Come on HABS do as you are told

GO HABS GO :lol:

[adamkry]

You don't get too many B's fans being respectful here because of comments like that.. and the incessant chatter about how every ref in the game is against you no matter what happens on the ice. Every fanbase, literally everyone out there watches a game through their own eyes and their own bias and thus every game it looks like all the calls are going the wrong way. A good true fan of the game knows this and knows to let the emotions calm down before they start raving on about this and that. The most often decried outrage in this series is Ference's finger... In the playoffs they are giving, 1 or 2 games for hits that during the regular season would've got 4-5. For an obscene gesture that may have normally gotten 1-2 games its not really a surprise that he's given only a fine. It's strange but the officials seem to want the hockey game to be decided by actually playing hockey... not on something as silly as people taking offense to the positioning of a players finger. The second biggest outrage was the offsides in OT on Ryder's goal.

http://img855.imageshack.us/i/offsider.jpg/

That's Cam going in offsides for his goal during that same game. Those calls are hard, the refs are not out to get you.

The last thing being mentioned most is Chara's hit on patch. It's over and done with, and from what I hear he's practicing today? That's great news. When Savard got crushed the Bruins fanbase got nothing, no suspension, nothing... and there is absolutely no comparing those two hits when it comes to 1. extent of injury, 2. intent to injure, and 3. overall impact on the team. And yes, intent does matter. In the law and on the ice.

In summation this has been an awesome series to watch. Watching game 5 was absolutely terrifying. I was knocking on wood and rubbing good luck charms until my hands hurt. In the end, I was elated, but also felt genuine remorse for the true hockey fans on the other side of that tilt because that game was a heartbreaker to lose. I thought both teams played great and the B's just caught some really lucky breaks that they hadn't caught earlier in the series. As for Game 6 I'm already anxious and nervous. The Canadiens are never beaten easily and I'm horribly worried the B's are not going to match the initial intensity. I figure it can really go two ways tonight... the Habs come out flying, using their nerves to their advantage, or they let the nerves bleed too far through and make it easy for us. Either way its going to be a fun one to watch, and an awesome series, win or lose.

Good luck all.. Go Bruins.

[uncivilengineer]

try stealing it when i'm sitting in it though...

yeah, that's what i thought... good luck

I'm already drafting detailed plans to steal it. But it's not me who will be doing it for tonight.

[ColRouleBleu]

Hello adamkry. I share your opinion in your summation paragraph.

However, regarding the need for true fans to get their emotions in check before ranting at the refs or anything else in principle it makes sense, or rather it would if this forum was a general all NHL forum. It's a bit like, if something ticks you off, you keep it cool when you're in public and wait to get to the privacy of your home to 'explode', to rant among friends and family. This forum represents 'the privacy of Habs fans home' so to speak.

[jedimaas]

Hello adamkry. I share your opinion in your summation paragraph.

However, regarding the need for true fans to get their emotions in check before ranting at the refs or anything else in principle it makes sense, or rather it would if this forum was a general all NHL forum. It's a bit like, if something ticks you off, you keep it cool when you're in public and wait to get to the privacy of your home to 'explode', to rant among friends and family. This forum represents 'the privacy of Habs fans home' so to speak.

This.

Its a great post, Adamkry, but CRB is right, this is a haven for Habs fans & many wear their hearts on their sleeves here.

[HabsRuleForever]

I'm already drafting detailed plans to steal it. But it's not me who will be doing it for tonight.

I can't believe I am not nervous for a change. I know we are going to do this.

[adamkry]

Hello adamkry. I share your opinion in your summation paragraph.

However, regarding the need for true fans to get their emotions in check before ranting at the refs or anything else in principle it makes sense, or rather it would if this forum was a general all NHL forum. It's a bit like, if something ticks you off, you keep it cool when you're in public and wait to get to the privacy of your home to 'explode', to rant among friends and family. This forum represents 'the privacy of Habs fans home' so to speak.

You're actually quite correct which I suppose makes me quite wrong. I just didn't appreciate the insinuation that the majority of Bruins fans are disrespectful etc. when he himself was being, to a degree, disrespectful.

[maddienmike]

You're actually quite correct which I suppose makes me quite wrong. I just didn't appreciate the insinuation that the majority of Bruins fans are disrespectful etc. when he himself was being, to a degree, disrespectful.

I am a she,and I was only agreeing with the Bruins fan on most of my comments,it was a bit tongue in cheek,we welcome other fans on here,we have fans from other teams who now contribute regularly,because of the way they have been treated on here and the HABS are now their second favorite team because of it,we are very proud of our family on here and the way we treat others,I am sorry if I offended you or anyone else that was not my intention,

GO HABS GO :lol:

[BigTed3]

The most often decried outrage in this series is Ference's finger... In the playoffs they are giving, 1 or 2 games for hits that during the regular season would've got 4-5. For an obscene gesture that may have normally gotten 1-2 games its not really a surprise that he's given only a fine. It's strange but the officials seem to want the hockey game to be decided by actually playing hockey... not on something as silly as people taking offense to the positioning of a players finger.

As you said, other players have received 1-2 game suspensions for similar gestures in the regular season and like you said, suspensions seem to be toned down during the playoffs, to a degree. Matt Cooke, for example, was still given what amounted to a 17 game suspension including 7 playoff games this year, so it's not unheard of to suspend guys. I'm among those who believe those dangerous hits in the playoffs should have been punished more harshly (or punished at all), not just Ference's finger. If I look at the hits that Raffi Torres dished out or what Mike Richards did in the last two Buf-Phi games, there are two perfect examples of guys who should have been suspended and weren't. In calling for Ference to be suspended, it is more a matter of how the league handles ALL incidents, not just this one. When a guy like Wisniewski is suspended for making a gesture to another player, I certainly believe making an equally-bad gesture to the fans is 10 times worse. Players may get mad at each other on the ice, but fans are shelling out hundreds of dollars for tickets and essentially paying the salaries of these players. So long as a fan is not being physically threatening to a player, the guys on the ice have no right to direct such a gesture to a paying spectator, much less a group whereby no one specific person did anything to Ference. I think that showed an extreme lack of class and respect and lying about it afterwards only made it worse. The league needed to do more because frankly, a fine of $2500 doesn't even touch a guy making Ference's salary and not suspending him sends the message to fans that the NHL doesn't care how its players treat us and that it takes the paying public for granted. To me, one game would have been enough, but there needed to have been a message sent that it is not okay to disrespect the people paying your salary.

The second biggest outrage was the offsides in OT on Ryder's goal.

http://img855.imageshack.us/i/offsider.jpg/

That's Cam going in offsides for his goal during that same game. Those calls are hard, the refs are not out to get you.

In all fairness, that picture proves nothing since the puck is over the line, but your point is well-taken and I made the same one in our game thread here after the B's scored the winning goal. That play happens in a split second and it was virtually impossible to see from camera on slow-motion replay so it's hard to fault the linesman on that one (i.e. it wasn't an overtly obvious blown call). It's too bad there was some controversy there, but I completely agree with you on this that things like this happen to all teams and can't be made any better, unlike some other reffing mistakes.

The last thing being mentioned most is Chara's hit on patch. It's over and done with, and from what I hear he's practicing today? That's great news. When Savard got crushed the Bruins fanbase got nothing, no suspension, nothing... and there is absolutely no comparing those two hits when it comes to 1. extent of injury, 2. intent to injure, and 3. overall impact on the team. And yes, intent does matter. In the law and on the ice.

I think almost all Habs fans feel bad for Marc Savard and believe Matt Cooke should have been given a lengthy suspension. Without a doubt. The same can be said for a number of other hits/players. But this doesn't make the Chara hit any better. When you talk about intent, you can't really ever prove it, but regardless, Chara and Pacioretty had a clear history with the Pacioretty push after the OT winner and Chara trying to take him out a couple of times thereafter both in front of the net and in the scrum where he went flying in after him. So it's hard for me not to believe Chara was looking to settle a score with Pacioretty. Did he mean to hurt him as badly as he did? Probably not. Did he commit a reckless foul knowing there was a chance of serious injury? Absolutely. Chara's whole bit about not knowing where he was on the ice or that it was Pacioretty skating next to him was complete garbage and the fact that he had to lie to cover it up makes him seem more guilty.

You can say that it's over and done with, but frankly, unless the Habs knock out the Bruins and Pacioretty makes it back healthy, there is no reason for us to believe this incident didn't effectively end our season. You can argue that Savrd's been out longer and that he's at present a better player than Pacioretty, but from our perspective, Pacioretty was having a breakout year and he single-handedly got Scott Gomez and Brian Gionta going when a multitude of other wingers on their line couldn't. So his loss was devastating to a team that was already missing 2 of its top 4 defencemen. Add to that the fact that Chara was allowed to keep playing without suspension and the differences in how that situation went down could have meant the Habs finishing in 3rd and the Bruins in 5th or 6th instead. We'll never know, but I don't think it's fair to say we should forget the incident, just as you have clearly not forgotten what Cooke did to Savard. All in all, what concerns me most about your team's actions is that they can clamor for a suspension to Cooke (and rightly so) but then go out and have guys like Chara, Marchand, and Paille deliver cheap shots to players heads and come out to the public saying there is no justification for a suspension. I know all teams are guilty of bias, but when it comes to headshots, I would have expected the Bruins to be one of the teams showing a little more respect for their opponents and they clearly don't.

I won't say I wish your team well, but I will thank you for a respectful and quality post and for adding to the discussion on our board.

[maddienmike]

Big Ted as always your post makes a lot of sense,no one is going to forget something that has hurt their team,added to that the fact that Chara nearly did the same thing to White in these playoffs,makes me even less inclined to forget,I think all hits to the head should be banned and there should be an automatic suspension,this is peoples lives we are talking about,not just a broken bone which is bad enough,I don't think the NHL cares enough about the players,as far as I can see hockey is just a product and nothing more,not people playing a game to earn a living and to give the fans entertainment.

There is also a question of nepotism not just about players being relatives but owners being in the TV networks this really bothers me,when money and favoritism comes before the players welfare,this is quite a dangerous sport to begin with,lets try and keep it as safe as possible.

GO HABS GO :D

[Flying_Lion]

Wow. That's a pretty heady conversation going on above this post. I'm not up for taking another stab and multiquoting and flooding the whole place so I'll just say this:

1. If the playoffs "mean more", why is there less discipline?

1a. Please tell me what the regular season is for, if the rules change after 82 games? Is there a separate rulebook for the Playoffs?

2. BigTed said it well when he noted that Chara might not have intended to injure Patches but he certainly "commit(ted) a reckless foul knowing there was a chance of serious injury". Yes, intent means something in the law but when someone dies as the result of carelessness, regardless of the lack of intent, the law calls it manslaughter.

3. Officiating in the NHL is suspect to say the least. We're not the only ones that think it. Gillis over in Vancouver raised the issue.

4. Regarding tonight's game, more pertinent to the Thread: Montreal's 5-1 record facing elimination last year is great. Another good one that I don't think was mentioned is that Boston went 1-5 whenever they had the opportunity to send their opponent golfing.

Take it to 'em, Team.

GO HABS GO!

Never let up.

Never give in.

[Forever_Habs10]

This is a haven for Habs fans & many wear their hearts on their sleeves here.

+100

[cherrybaby]

I woke up today feeling optimistic, there's really no other choice. Hopefully all of our positive energy will feed the team and make all the bounces go our way, the Hockey Gods can't shine on the Bruins this long, we are due for a win, Carey especially. I bet he's sick of hearing about his losses at home during the playoffs, well, tonight will end that losing streak. I'm sure of it. I predict a very tight game, possibly OT, with the Habs winning 2-1 or 3-2. GOOO HAAAAAABBBBS!!!!!!

[maddienmike]

Come on people make some noise

We have to get behind our boys

Shout and cheer every time we have the puck

If they need help can't rely on luck

They are going out right from the beginning

With every intention of winning

If they need a lift along the way

Let the ole song earn it's pay

We must have faith always believe

Giving nothing,nothing is what you receive

So come on fans give it everything

It's not summer yet it is still spring

Lets make it last a lot longer

With us behind them makes our team stronger

GO HABS GO :lol:

[Forever_Habs10]

I bet he's sick of hearing about his losses at home during the playoffs,

I know I am.

[maddienmike]

I know I am.

All of us are,so tonight Carey will prove them wrong and put that one to rest,

GO HABS GO :lol:

[Sashaband]

I'll be at a friends place for the game tonight, so no posting for me until later.

I want them to win so bad. They've deserved the last couple of games, they really have. They just can't seem to finish, and in the playoffs, that's costly.

I want to be happy tonight. I want all of us to be happy tonight. If they win tonight, I really do believe they can take the series. Boston has scored a total of 3 goals in 3 games on their home turf and it took a double overtime just to get a victory. We can do this. All we have to do is win tonight.

Our little boy is due next week. We have all kinds of Montreal Canadiens onesies that he needs to be wearing during this years playoffs. He'll be too big for them next year. So they absolutely have to do this! Yes we will get him more Hab outfits for next year, but he can only wear the onesies for a short time, so they have to win so he can wear them during their 2011 run!

Go Habs Go!

Have a great night everyone!

[Guest archey]

just can't find it to be worried about tonight's game. you guys are the greatest and i feel so at home in the forum that i just know that win or lose i'll have good friends tomorrow and the next day. oh i mean there a few guys who will probably be marked for life for saying the wrong word which begins with s, but even so their numbers are dwindling rather than increasing- or so it seems- and we're even learning to say knock wood at the right times. so, good luck to us, and i'm hoping. what else can i do?

[kinot-1]

I just got up from a nap,,,,and although I rarely remember my dreams,,,,suffice to say 3-1 Habs with Eller scoring (not sure which goal tho).