habs_93 Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 whats dumb about having the floridas? Means i get to see more games down here. Further more if they are as bad as you all claim, more wins. Further more I wouldn't want to break up rangers islanders devils and the penn teams they have a bunch of individual rivalries between them. Someone's rivalries are going to have to be broken up if they're dead set on this stupid 4-division plan. They made their bed when they decided to pursue that. Why does every other conference have geographical integrity, while we have a ridiculous plane trip that makes absolutely no sense? That's my problem. Is this Bettman's way of trying to punish Geoff Molson for his letter last year? And if it IS to prop up Florida via our attendance draw, that's even more ridiculous. If they can't survive without us, we shouldn't be forced to give them welfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmarcello Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Someone's rivalries are going to have to be broken up if they're dead set on this stupid 4-division plan. They made their bed when they decided to pursue that. Why does every other conference have geographical integrity, while we have a ridiculous plane trip that makes absolutely no sense? That's my problem. Is this Bettman's way of trying to punish Geoff Molson for his letter last year? And if it IS to prop up Florida via our attendance draw, that's even more ridiculous. If they can't survive without us, we shouldn't be forced to give them welfare. I'm not sure what I think of the 4-conference plan, but if that's what wins out, the proposed conferences really aren't that bad. Even with the unnecessary travel in Montreal's conference, it still pales in comparison to the westernmost conference. They aren't even in the same time zone. Also, from the selfish perspective of a Habs fan in the Maritimes who has only seen 2 games live, having lots of prospective games to attend in Florida aren't going to upset me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerplay2009 Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I have 2 problems with this plan: 1. Poor Detriot. They have been the sacraficial lamb in that they were kept in the West to sell tickets in the Bettman's experiment cities. They put in their time and deserve to be put in the East where they should be, with the likes of Toronto and Montreal. 2. I like 2 conferences. I wouldn't mind splitting the conferences into 2 divisions, giving each division 2 automatic spots, and then having the bottom four "wild card". That would also make the different amount of teams in each division less of an issue. Let's face it though. It simply makes most sense to me to move Winnipeg to the Central and Nashville to the Southeast. It doesn't make everyone happy, but its easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmarcello Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I have 2 problems with this plan: 1. Poor Detriot. They have been the sacraficial lamb in that they were kept in the West to sell tickets in the Bettman's experiment cities. They put in their time and deserve to be put in the East where they should be, with the likes of Toronto and Montreal. I'm not sure that Detroit would be any worse off than anybody else in this situation. They would play the majority of their regular season games against close-by conference opponents. They would have a home and home with every other opponent just like the others. Finally, the big perk for them when compared to the current system is that they would no longer have to travel back and forth to the west coast for their first 2 playoff rounds since they will be contested within the conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs_93 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Welcome to the welfare division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_Habs10 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 The NHL's Board of Governors has made a decision on a plan for NHL realignment. The league has approved a four conference format. Discussion and the vote to approve the new realignment plan at the NHL Board of Governors mettings in Pebble Beach, California took an hour. The realignment became necessary when the Atlanta Thrashers moved to Winnipeg and became the Jets. It is expected details of what the NHL will look like next season will be announced shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Moving this to the General Habs section, now that realignment is here and will be affecting us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatethosebruins Posted December 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 The NHL's Board of Governors has made a decision on a plan for NHL realignment. The league has approved a four conference format. Discussion and the vote to approve the new realignment plan at the NHL Board of Governors mettings in Pebble Beach, California took an hour. The realignment became necessary when the Atlanta Thrashers moved to Winnipeg and became the Jets. It is expected details of what the NHL will look like next season will be announced shortly. Interesting, cant wait to see what will happen! The nhl could do a better job explaining it, I dont get the playoffs at all or the conference match ups. I dont like that we have tampa and florida eitehr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSD Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Our division all makes sense until the stupid tavel to Florida. How are you going to have everything bunched together and then our conference has two teams on an island of their own. Dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewfoundlandHab Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 NHL.com Reallignment details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Playoffs work as follows: top 4 from each division ("conference") make the playoffs and play against each other 1vs. 4, 2 vs. 3, etc... winners of each of the 4 conferences are then re-seeded and play 1 vs. 4, 2 vs. 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs-24 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 this whole thing is just plain stupid, doesnt surprise me though its the NHL after all:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatethosebruins Posted December 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Playoffs work as follows: top 4 from each division ("conference") make the playoffs and play against each other 1vs. 4, 2 vs. 3, etc... winners of each of the 4 conferences are then re-seeded and play 1 vs. 4, 2 vs. 3... So we could see east-west matchups in the playoffs or east-east in the cup final? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Big issue is that there will be two divisions of 7 and two of 8... so if top 4 in each division make the playoffs with no crossover, then it's not fair to the ones in the 8-team divisions. Would be a 50% chance of making the playoffs in the 8-divisions and about a 57% chance in the 7-divisions. That needs to be straightened out, cause it doesn't make sense. So we could see east-west matchups in the playoffs or east-east in the cup final? Yup. There's no more east or west. It's just 4 conferences of 7-8 teams. It'll be like Canadian college football almost, where each of 4 leagues has its winner but they rotate who plays who from year to year. The NHL's format will be based on points in the regular season, but yes, we could see Pittsburgh in the finals for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSD Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Big issue is that there will be two divisions of 7 and two of 8... so if top 4 in each division make the playoffs with no crossover, then it's not fair to the ones in the 8-team divisions. Would be a 50% chance of making the playoffs in the 8-divisions and about a 57% chance in the 7-divisions. That needs to be straightened out, cause it doesn't make sense. Yup. There's no more east or west. It's just 4 conferences of 7-8 teams. It'll be like Canadian college football almost, where each of 4 leagues has its winner but they rotate who plays who from year to year. The NHL's format will be based on points in the regular season, but yes, we could see Pittsburgh in the finals for example. That's simple. No more than 1 Canadian team in each conference is allowed to make the playoffs in any given year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs-24 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Big issue is that there will be two divisions of 7 and two of 8... so if top 4 in each division make the playoffs with no crossover, then it's not fair to the ones in the 8-team divisions. Would be a 50% chance of making the playoffs in the 8-divisions and about a 57% chance in the 7-divisions. That needs to be straightened out, cause it doesn't make sense. Yup. There's no more east or west. It's just 4 conferences of 7-8 teams. It'll be like Canadian college football almost, where each of 4 leagues has its winner but they rotate who plays who from year to year. The NHL's format will be based on points in the regular season, but yes, we could see Pittsburgh in the finals for example. we dont have any worries about playing in the finals any year soon i dont think lol, this whole thing is ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaubie Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Basically. My apologies for not contributing some kind of criticism or something constructive to say. Just how I feel. I don't understand why they couldn't do simple one team moves and have things stay relatively the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmarcello Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Our division all makes sense until the stupid tavel to Florida. How are you going to have everything bunched together and then our conference has two teams on an island of their own. Dumb. Like I said earlier, the extra travel really isn't that bad. A Montreal to Florida flight is only a few hours in the same time zone, and it's still better than some of the west coast flights across time zones. Best of all it eliminates some of the absolutely brutal travel that some western conference teams have had to put up with in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine1One Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Its wierd but to be honest, we are in one of the weaker groups i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs_93 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 They're popping the corks in Florida tonight. If this can't make the Panthers profitable, nothing will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmarcello Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 I'm not totally sure how I feel about it yet. I definitely remember the old divisions from when I was younger, but I don't remember all the pros and cons that went with it. I do know that one thing I REALLY like about the new proposal is that we get to play each team twice every year. That means a little more chance to see guys like Nash, Toews, Kopitar, Halak, and many others in action. A couple downsides as brought up by Bob McKenzie... Cons: 5th place team in a "stronger" conference misses playoffs and 4th place team in a "weaker" conference makes it. Cons: Two of the NHL's elite teams, maybe the top two overall, could conceivably meet in the 2nd round of the playoffs. Also brought up is the 50% or 57% chance of making the playoffs depending on if your team is in an 8 team or 7 team conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine1One Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Lets think of conference names, I've come to the conclusion that I have no affect on this matter and will laugh it up hey were in a 7 team conference with 57 % shot at making it, for a border line team like us thats good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmarcello Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Its wierd but to be honest, we are in one of the weaker groups i think. I'm not concerned. Every couple years the powers shift. In 2015 Florida could be a powerhouse, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine1One Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 I'm not concerned. Every couple years the powers shift. In 2015 Florida could be a powerhouse, who knows? Ya i think the divisions are fine, how are the games split up? also the only thing i'm worried about if the game scheduling isn't bad is the play offs, its meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs_93 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Okay, two 7-team "conferences", one with an absolutely ridiculous arrangement, and two 8-team ones with a Canadian team on an island? This is too stupid for even the NHL, and that's saying something. It stinks, on a number of levels. What does this say about the CBA, future relocation, or expansion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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