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I'd prefer:

Bourque-Plekanec-Kostitsyn

Patches-DD-Cole

Moen-Eller-Gomez

Darche-Nokelainen-Blunden

We keep the Two And A Half-men line which is working well, Plekanec gets two big wingers with speed and talent and finish, Gomez gets to play with better players and the fourth line is a proper fourth line.

EDIT: Or what Miasun said. :lol:

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I like blunden up here, just not on a top line.

What's the point of playing someone like him in a season like this? We're not going anywhere, so we may as well bring up a couple of kids and finding out whether they can contribute. I know everyone is riding the incredible high of a one-game winning streak, but we've got to be realistic. Over half the season is in the books and we look far closer to being a lottery team than a contender.

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Lines at practise:

Bourque-Pleks-Blunden

Patches-DD-Cole

Moen-Eller-AK

Darche-Gomez-Noke

As per Johnn Lu

I really dont understand this whole Blunden on the top line thing...

Cunneyworth seems absolutely allergic to breaking up either the Eller or DD line. DD, fine - its been clicking well for a while, but aside from the "once in a lifetime night" (eller's own words) I dont think there's anything magical about that line. Yes, AK & Eller have been working well together & Moen has been having a career year, but its still always more logical to give your top centre (plekanec) support when his wingers get traded, vs. leaving your second and third line intact.

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Cunneyworth seems absolutely allergic to breaking up either the Eller or DD line. DD, fine - its been clicking well for a while, but aside from the "once in a lifetime night" (eller's own words) I dont think there's anything magical about that line. Yes, AK & Eller have been working well together & Moen has been having a career year, but its still always more logical to give your top centre (plekanec) support when his wingers get traded, vs. leaving your second and third line intact.

It's Koivu-Higgins all over again.

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It's sad that we'd be so happy to replace one grinder on a scoring line with another, better grinder on a scoring line. ;)

Kostitsyn or Eller would be better fits (and Eller makes sense, given our current surplus of centers).

They sure would. Then you could let Gomez center the 3rd line and get a little more out of his skill set.

(Yes, yes, I know Gomez and AK hasn't worked out and therefore should never be attempted again. ;))

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They sure would. Then you could let Gomez center the 3rd line and get a little more out of his skill set.

Exactly, it's a positive trickle-down effect for all the forward lines. But no, let's not hold back Mike Blunden, Scoring Superstar from his destiny.

(Yes, yes, I know Gomez and AK hasn't worked out and therefore should never be attempted again. ;))

And if the third member of the line is a north-south guy like Moen, the line might have impact.

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Where I'd go from here, given how well Gomez has played:

Pacioretty-Plekanec-Kostitsyn

Gomez-Eller-Cole

Bourque-Desharnais-Palushaj/Weber

Moen-Nokelainen-Blunden

I like that third line. Palushaj and Bourque should do fine on a third line with DD feeding them.

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Kostitsyn-Plekanec-Bourque

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole

Moen-Eller-Blunden

Darche-Nokaleinen-Gomez

Roll all 4 lines for once, please...

Emelin-Subban

Kaberle-Gorges

Weber-Diaz

I think these d-pairings, is something i haven't seen this year. Limited time for the 3rd pairing.

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Gomez Plekanec Bourque

Pacioretty Desharnais Cole

Moen Eller Kostitsyn

Darche Noke Blunden

Gorges Subban

Emelin Kaberle

Gill Diaz

Gomez playing first line minutes is a reward for his contribution point wise? And don't bother replying that you have to play your 7M player top line minutes. Send the underachievers home...Enough is enough...

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Gomez playing first line minutes is a reward for his contribution point wise? And don't bother replying that you have to play your 7M player top line minutes. Send the underachievers home...Enough is enough...

So you think Blunden is better there?

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Gomez playing first line minutes is a reward for his contribution point wise? And don't bother replying that you have to play your 7M player top line minutes. Send the underachievers home...Enough is enough...

Silly argument. If you keep playing Gomez with grinders and restricting his minutes, you're reducing his chances of producing, and anyway, since returning from injury he's been working hard and chipping in with points. Fans kill me sometimes, you expect perfection out of the box and anything less is grounds for repeated punishment. I don't like Scott's contract, and I hated the trade that brought him to Montreal, but he's been injured for most of the year and on just about every team it's a given that your best players don't lose their positions simply because of injury. Since his return, he is playing some of the best hockey I've ever seen him play as a Hab. He's doing all the little things right, he's going to the high-traffic areas, skating on the forecheck like a maniac, competing for the puck. That's only five games since he's been back and regaining your form after a lengthy injury layoff takes time. But fans seem to want to punish him for his contract and for the whole miserable trainwreck of a season which IMO has very little to do with Scott's performance -- he's been injured most of the way but NOT the problem when he's been in the lineup.

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Silly argument. If you keep playing Gomez with grinders and restricting his minutes, you're reducing his chances of producing, and anyway, since returning from injury he's been working hard and chipping in with points. Fans kill me sometimes, you expect perfection out of the box and anything less is grounds for repeated punishment. I don't like Scott's contract, and I hated the trade that brought him to Montreal, but he's been injured for most of the year and on just about every team it's a given that your best players don't lose their positions simply because of injury. Since his return, he is playing some of the best hockey I've ever seen him play as a Hab. He's doing all the little things right, he's going to the high-traffic areas, skating on the forecheck like a maniac, competing for the puck. That's only five games since he's been back and regaining your form after a lengthy injury layoff takes time. But fans seem to want to punish him for his contract and for the whole miserable trainwreck of a season which IMO has very little to do with Scott's performance -- he's been injured most of the way but NOT the problem when he's been in the lineup.

I agree with everything you said, and like I've pointed out before, I think any people want or expect him to try and make up for both his contract and last season's performance in one game. It's as if anything less than a 5-game goal-scoring streak coming back from injury is unacceptable. Like you, I feel Scotty's been one of our 203 best forwards since his return and while I don't necessarily think he needs to play 22-24 minutes on the top line, it is imperative that we give him quality linemates (be it using him as a center or as a winger) to 1) make use of his level of play and 2) boost his trade value. It just makes sense.

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Although weep and Ted justified my lines and went beyond it, I think from a hockey standpoint those are actually the best possible lines we have.

Gomez - Pleks - Bourque

Scott is actually pretty good in the corner and at making passes out of it, bourque drives the slot and this might allow Plekanec to try finishing more plays instead of always being forced to set the table.

Two and a half men line

Next question.

Moen Eller Kostitsyn

Proven success/chemistry together and probably our most reponsible hardworking line across the board. Yes, that includes Ak.

Darche Noke Blunden

Crash, bang and annoy. A 4th line filled with 4th liners although novel to our coaches may just work.

Gorges Subban

Emelin Kaberle

Gill Diaz

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I'd like to see us stick to these lines when White comes back:

Gomez-Plekanec-Bourque

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole

Moen-Eller-Kostitsyn

Darche-White-Blunden

For the defense, I'd actually try putting Gill back with Subban for a stint. Hal has been solid recently and he and Subban have worked in the past. Does not give us a proper first D-pairing but we can split the work load more evenly among the D.

Gorges-Emelin

Gill-Subban

Kaberle-Diaz

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