BigTed3 Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Some bold thoughts... 1st PP unit: Markov with Kostitsyn at the point, Cammalleri with Plekanec at the wings and Cole in front of the net. 2nd PP unit: Subban with Weber at the point, Gomez with Gionta at the wings and Pacioretty in front of the net. This formation has the advantage of keeping all 7 scoring forwards involved in a PP, without adding a defensive defensemen with PP time (Gorges,Gill). Of course there is a matter of the productivity that Spacek and Emalin can provide at the point, but i wouldn't keep my hopes so high. Also if Kostitsyn plays in the 3rd line, as speculated, you have to give him some quality PP minutes, in order to deliver his numbers, in a contract year , avoiding rust and unhappiness. I also think that he has developed his defensive aspect of the game the last couple of years, so i wouldn't worry with him being the last man rushing back, covering a breakaway. 1st PK unit: Moen with Plekanec at front, Gorges and Gill at the back. 2nd PK unit: White with Desharnais at front, Markov and Emelin at the back. As much as i hate to see Pleckanec logging PK minutes, he excecutes this role so effectively, that you can't just ignore it. The Gorges-Gill combo may be one of the best in the league, as shown in the past, and the only concern might be the efficiency in PK by the role players such as White, Desharnais, Eller, Emmelin. They have to come out strong in order the team to finish in the top-5 in the PK (%). Good thoughts. I also think you need to try and keep AK involved on the PP and while I'm not a huge fan of forwards playing the point, he may be an alternative if neither Emelin or Spacek proves to be capable. The other guy I'd like to see getting some PP time though is Desharnais. The guy is a solid passer and the extra space with the man up will give him the chance to show what he can do. I realize Gomez is not going to be kicked off the PP to start the year, but DD has to be considered if Gomez isn't performing in that role through the 1st 10-15 games. Another option, if we're thinking outside the box and we want both Gomez and DD out there, is to use Gomez on the left point on the 2nd wave in the role Markov plays on the 1st wave (i.e. as a puck distributor). His lack of a shot may become easy to defend, but on the other hand perhaps this will encourage Scotty to shoot more. This also then allows us to use Weber and Subban as the two point-men shooters in some order and DD at center with Pacman on the 2nd unit. On the PK, I agree that we cannot simply keep Pleks onto the bench. He's too good in that role. But I would like to see us use some of the younger guys there too to cut down the minutes we demand of Plekanec on the PK. I'm fine with a 1st duo of Plekanec-Moen and I am ok with DD or Eller or even Engqvist if he makes the team. White is going to have to be eased into the rotation because he's not quite ready to take a regular shift there yet, but it would be beneficial to us if he can develop the ability to play the PK and save some of the offensive-minded guys for even strength and the PP. At present, I still think we'll have to rely on Gomez and/or Gionta on the PK unless PG signs another forward (another reason I believe a guy like Trent Hunter might be a good fit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColRouleBleu Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 I like what you're proposing for the PP grecohab. On the PK however I dont think we'll see only 2 pairs of forwards. Pleki and Moen to start it are a given in my books, but after that, others can enter the rotation. Maybe Gomez and certainly Gionta will see some PK action. At least 3 pairs for the 2 minutes. And on D, Subban will see some action too, he did surprisingly well with Gill in that defensive assignment last season. I guess, it will all depend on who is in the box and who has fresh legs when the penalty is called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperlink Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 My thought for the PP: First wave: Cole - Plekanec - Cammalleri Markov - Emelin (2 left shots at the point, Markov is on the left side usually; could also be another left shooting d-man or a forward) This one is good for cross ice setup: Markov to Cammalleri = in the goal. Also this is a good way to drill it a the net with Cole infront. Plekanec can control the puck as well and cycle with Cammalleri. Markov and Cole could switch as the play goes on. Markov likes to go backdoor near the net, Cole might be able to shoot from the point. Second wave: Pacioretty - Gomez - Gionta Subban - Weber (2 right shot a the point, the two of them have powerful blast and Weber walks the line fairly well) A bit the same kind of setup as the first unit, Pacman infront of the net, Gomez and Gionta for the cycle. I can't really see Subban and Markov on the same unit, they both like to control the play too much and have a really different style of play. Depending on how it works there's also the third line that could jump in with AK - Eller - Desharnais. No shortage of talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreegking Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Can't wait to see Markov feeding PK this season. If he can score 14 with The Wiz feeding him imagine what he can do with Markov out there with him! u said it there is no way a forward plays the point with these two healthy - never perhaps on the second unit it's going to be a top 5 power play i suspect and a top 10 penalty kill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewfoundlandHab Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 This Pleks on the point thing nees to stop and we NEED to work on entering the attacking zone the PP! PP 1: Cole-Pleks-Cammy PK-Diaz No, Cole hasn't been very successful on the PP but neither has this whole team this season. It couldnt hurt. Use the triangle on the point with Camy, PK and Diaz, it worked very well with the Wiz last year. Put Diaz in the middle as he is very good at getting his shots to the net. PP 2: Gionta-DD-Patches Weber-Emelin Just basically our next best offensive players. Has a shooter, playmaker and a big body for the front of the net.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 PP has now scored in 4 straight games. There are still some shifts that look lie complete misses, but it's doing a lot better with Cole and Gomez out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeanCountingHab Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 PP has now scored in 4 straight games. There are still some shifts that look lie complete misses, but it's doing a lot better with Cole and Gomez out there... And the PK is back up to our usual lofty standards; 3rd the NHL when last I checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepingminotaur Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 PP has now scored in 4 straight games. There are still some shifts that look lie complete misses, but it's doing a lot better with Cole and Gomez out there... I would still vastly prefer Pacioretty at the net instead of on the right boards, but yes, Cole and Gomez are helping the PP come around. If Subban is able to snap out of his PP funk, we might be able to have a functioning unit ahead of Markov's return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRatKing Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 And the PK is back up to our usual lofty standards; 3rd the NHL when last I checked. With the practice the Boys get having to us it, I'm not surprised. If practice makes perfect, the Habs are well on their way to being grandmasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs-24 Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 powerplay is abysmal, absolutely no threat what so ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddienmike Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Last night power plays were some of the worst I have ever seen,it was really terrible GO HABS GO :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydrostatic Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Our special teams are on opposite sides of the spectrum. Our PK is amazing, and our PP needs some work and to start cliking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIASUN Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Can we have " ..... " put into the title as in "Special" teams. It's seems more appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBIGGESTHABSFAN123 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Our special teams are on opposite sides of the spectrum. Our PK is amazing, and our PP needs some work and to start cliking. Some work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatethosebruins Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 PK: Fine PP: 11 passes=missed shot on net. Needs work.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIASUN Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Please delete this thread. It's painful to even read PP on the Habs forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Please delete this thread. It's painful to even read PP on the Habs forum. Post of the week,,,,right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewfoundlandHab Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Cole-DD-Pacioretty Kaberle-Subban Leblanc-Pleks-Eller Diaz-AK I think its time to try AK on the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddienmike Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Hey at least we are number one in something,the fact that it's the penalty kill is neither here near there,we are number one. GO HABS GO :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Habs penalty kill sitting 1st at 89.7%. Outstanding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 PK is great, gotta get the PP clicking. We had some bad years since the lockout, but we always had a strong PP. Gotta get back to a strong PP, it's what's helped us in the past. Without a strong PP, we sit in the basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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