hatethosebruins Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 According to Renaud Lavoie he isnt at morning skate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MkGee Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 hammer was our number two guy last year, granted hed never be a number two if we had a full healthy core but the point is hammer is probably one of the best "fill in" d in the game if theres such a thing, and hes just so consistent, hes older so of course hes slower but as long as hes with a faster guy hes good to go, i think markov will play maybe twenty games this season, i can understand taking a gamble on him but for three years? does pg like being stuck paying players who dont play or get paid a million+ per goal? also washington should be improved because of the hammer we all know mike green is the most fragile player in the league if you brush by him his shoulder is dislocated, its really sad though was anyone else a big fan of green before the injuries hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatethosebruins Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Per Renaud lavoie, hes sick and out for tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Per Renaud lavoie, hes sick and out for tonight. Lame. You can tell by the lack of replies in this thread he's been pretty solid of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeanCountingHab Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Sucks, but silver lining is Emelin gets another game under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnipegJet Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Lame. You can tell by the lack of replies in this thread he's been pretty solid of late. Such is life in the Hal Gill thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepingminotaur Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Lame. You can tell by the lack of replies in this thread he's been pretty solid of late. I haven't been terribly impressed with him recently, but it's beating a dead horse so I'm not going to keep ragging on Hal. We will miss his penalty-killing 5-on-3, for sure, though I actually think his 5-on-4 penalty-killing is massively overrated. He's so slow that he can't cut off pucks in the corner fast enough, and he clears the zone like a senior citizen. Sure, blocked shots are a great stat, but half those blocks aren't necessary if Gill just clears the puck the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Sucks, but silver lining is Emelin gets another game under his belt. Well. I can't say I missed him. Yeah, sure... We have a bunch of inexperienced defence out there, but they didn't seem to perform any worse without Gill and Spacek (after he left with injury in the second). I don't really see Gill as providing much more, if anything, than any of the other defencemen. But that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeanCountingHab Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Agreed on Gill, but I definitely felt Spacek's absence out there after he left the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn1990 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Dude is in the hospital because of his virus so he won't play Saturday either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Dude is in the hospital because of his virus so he won't play Saturday either. Yet another blow to the D corps, since he'll likely need some recovery time too. It'll be anyone's guess whether Gill or Space beat Markov back into the line-up or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Dude is in the hospital because of his virus so he won't play Saturday either. I hope he gets better , but I don't really miss him on the ice. We're delusional if we think the return of Hal Gill is going to help this team play consistent, good hockey. The team lacks a competent number 1. No number of 5-6 defence is going to help us. Even if they are experienced veterans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSD Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 I hope he gets better , but I don't really miss him on the ice. We're delusional if we think the return of Hal Gill is going to help this team play consistent, good hockey. The team lacks a competent number 1. No number of 5-6 defence is going to help us. Even if they are experienced veterans. We'd also be delusional to think that not having Gill in the line up won't make a difference at all. He's still a good presence on the ice for us. We can't keep playing a blue line full of first year kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Bah Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Hal Gill's presence on the blueline is what it is the defence is missing the big body,blocking machine that eats up minutes and clearly is missed on the PK,his veteran leadership and calming effect is a tangible that can't be measured by stats.Let's all hope he has a speedy recovery.All the best to you Hal we miss you as your teammates do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwdemonwolf Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 I miss Spacek more than I miss Gill. Hope for a speedy recovery regardless, being hospitalized sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBIGGESTHABSFAN123 Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Habs official site says he's been released from the hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Just in case this wasn't mentioned, he apparently had an infected cut/wound and not a virus. I'm not sure what this means in terms of timing for a return or where this injury is. RDS seems to be saying he may be back next week sometime, but there's a big difference between Monday and Saturday, as we have a lot of key games next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 ... Gill back Wednesday according to Luc Gelinas (RDS) and H I/O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MkGee Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 my god gill is soo important to our team hes so under rated to the rest of the league, i even no bruins fans who say theyd like him back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 One back and three more to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepingminotaur Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Just a small sample, but our PK didn't miss a beat with Gill out of the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Just a small sample, but our PK didn't miss a beat with Gill out of the lineup. Nope, it didn't but at the very least it will/should allow us to lessen the PK load off at least one of Subban or Gorges, which helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepingminotaur Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Nope, it didn't but at the very least it will/should allow us to lessen the PK load off at least one of Subban or Gorges, which helps. Absolutely, but that's a workload issue. All I'm saying is that our PK didn't fall apart with Hal out of the lineup. In fact, it was topnotch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Absolutely, but that's a workload issue. All I'm saying is that our PK didn't fall apart with Hal out of the lineup. In fact, it was topnotch. I think that happened for a couple of reasons: 1. We played, for the most part, teams with awful PP's. The NYR are 2nd-last in the league. The Hurricanes are 4th last. The NYI are 11th last, and the Bruins have had a pretty mediocre PP this year and last, and really only had 1 PP anyways (if you count the delayed penalty, well then they scored on that 6-on-5). The Sabres have a good PP this year, but still had only 4 chances (lower than what we usually give up). 2. Carey. Be it Gill or Subban or someone else, the factor that most influences how well a PK does is the goalie. Carey's been clearing the dump-ins like a monster. And yes, that's partly your point that the PK can be alright without Gill in there, but in the long run, we're better off with him on the PK than without him. I think having so many rookies would catch up to us eventually. 3. St-Denis... he held his own, even with some PK time. Nothing fancy, but we didn't end up with a young D man making mistakes that cost us goals. Again, that might not hold true if you let him play the minutes Gill did though, and as was pointed out, workload would have caught up to Subban and Gorges, quite possibly with the double-header against two very good teams this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepingminotaur Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I think that happened for a couple of reasons: 1. We played, for the most part, teams with awful PP's. The NYR are 2nd-last in the league. The Hurricanes are 4th last. The NYI are 11th last, and the Bruins have had a pretty mediocre PP this year and last, and really only had 1 PP anyways (if you count the delayed penalty, well then they scored on that 6-on-5). The Sabres have a good PP this year, but still had only 4 chances (lower than what we usually give up). 2. Carey. Be it Gill or Subban or someone else, the factor that most influences how well a PK does is the goalie. Carey's been clearing the dump-ins like a monster. And yes, that's partly your point that the PK can be alright without Gill in there, but in the long run, we're better off with him on the PK than without him. I think having so many rookies would catch up to us eventually. 3. St-Denis... he held his own, even with some PK time. Nothing fancy, but we didn't end up with a young D man making mistakes that cost us goals. Again, that might not hold true if you let him play the minutes Gill did though, and as was pointed out, workload would have caught up to Subban and Gorges, quite possibly with the double-header against two very good teams this weekend. In the long run, for this season anyway, using rookies on the PK would definitely catch up with us, agreed. I'm not saying Gill has no value on the PK. I was just interested to see that our PK did very well without Gill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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