ColRouleBleu Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 #53 Ryan White Bio Stats Video Draft Class Archive 2010-2011 QUOTE LIBRARY “We did all the right things today – look at Whitey. He gave me the puck twice in the right area and I just put it on net.” - PK Subban - canadiens.com March 20 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I know he was given a QO, but as yet he is not signed... or is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff33 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 should be a regular in the bottom 6 this year. how can you not like this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColRouleBleu Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I know he was given a QO, but as yet he is not signed... or is he? He's still not signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_Habs10 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 He's still not signed What's the hold up? how can you not like this guy? Exactly...want him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSD Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 What's the hold up? Exactly...want him back. Between Gorges and the Free Agency period, White probably sits on the back burner for a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColRouleBleu Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Between Gorges and the Free Agency period, White probably sits on the back burner for a little bit. Exactly. There's no rush, absolutely none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_Habs10 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I am impressed with watching this dude last season,he adds toughness/size that we can always use,with an ability to occasionally put the puck in the net. Ryan plays a gritty game, a player not hesitant to mix things up when need be. Will be happy when the deal gets done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Exactly. There's no rush, absolutely none. Yep. I am just kind of surprised his hasn't accepted the qualifying offer. I'm sure he'll be taken care of shortly, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeanCountingHab Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Yep. I am just kind of surprised his hasn't accepted the qualifying offer. I'm sure he'll be taken care of shortly, though. Would the qualifying offer still be a 2-way contract like his last one? If so that would be a big reason not to simply accept it and wait for the one way offer. Who knows, he may want to see if he can get a 2 year deal as well. I can't imagine $$$ will factor in much or at all. Then again, an extra $50-100K which means almost nothing in the grand scheme of things probably matters quite a bit to a guy like White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddienmike Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Ryan I know your contract will get sorted Nothing else has been reported We like your style we like your play More and more every day We like your guts we like your speed For you to fight there should be no need You don't have to snarl and be mean We just like you on our hockey team GO RYAN GO :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncivilengineer Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Would the qualifying offer still be a 2-way contract like his last one? If so that would be a big reason not to simply accept it and wait for the one way offer. Who knows, he may want to see if he can get a 2 year deal as well. I can't imagine $$$ will factor in much or at all. Then again, an extra $50-100K which means almost nothing in the grand scheme of things probably matters quite a bit to a guy like White. I feel a 2-way offer to be perfectly acceptable in my opinion. He serves in a 4th liner role that can be filled by quite a few people in the league today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 In all likely hood, the Hab's tendered the QO as a technicality, and then requested he wait awhile before accepting,, in case management wants to do a multy year deal. Nothing unusual going on IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 In all likely hood, the Hab's tendered the QO as a technicality, and then requested he wait awhile before accepting,, in case management wants to do a multy year deal. Nothing unusual going on IMO. Could he have filed for arbitration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regis2 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Could he have filed for arbitration? Not sure why he or his agent would do that , he doesn't have any bargaing power. 43 NHL games and 7 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Could he have filed for arbitration? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColRouleBleu Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Could he have filed for arbitration? Not sure if he's eligible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Not sure if he's eligible He's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I feel a 2-way offer to be perfectly acceptable in my opinion. He serves in a 4th liner role that can be filled by quite a few people in the league today. I agree, he hasn't even played a full season. He hasn't done anything significant to earn a one way deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I agree, he hasn't even played a full season. He hasn't done anything significant to earn a one way deal. Well the difference between a 1-way and 2-way is what you get paid in the AHL. A lot of times a guy like White, who isn't an established NHLer, will take a 1-way 550,000 type deal instead of a 2-way that pays say, 750,000 in the NHL and 75,000 in the AHL. That way he gets his 550,000 even if he gets sent down. It also makes him more appealing to the NHL team because of his low cap hit, which could play a factor in deciding between him and someone on a 2-way deal with a higher NHL cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Well the difference between a 1-way and 2-way is what you get paid in the AHL. A lot of times a guy like White, who isn't an established NHLer, will take a 1-way 550,000 type deal instead of a 2-way that pays say, 750,000 in the NHL and 75,000 in the AHL. That way he gets his 550,000 even if he gets sent down. It also makes him more appealing to the NHL team because of his low cap hit, which could play a factor in deciding between him and someone on a 2-way deal with a higher NHL cap hit. Right. But isn't there also a (predetermined) date-a trial period so to speak-and NHL teams need to decide by then, if they're keeping the kids or sending them back to the AHL and that also determines salary for the season? From my understanding, they can send him down past that date, but he'll continue to earn a NHL salary (regardless where he plays). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeanCountingHab Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Well the difference between a 1-way and 2-way is what you get paid in the AHL. A lot of times a guy like White, who isn't an established NHLer, will take a 1-way 550,000 type deal instead of a 2-way that pays say, 750,000 in the NHL and 75,000 in the AHL. That way he gets his 550,000 even if he gets sent down. It also makes him more appealing to the NHL team because of his low cap hit, which could play a factor in deciding between him and someone on a 2-way deal with a higher NHL cap hit. Exactly, this is what I was getting at in my post above. It's bascially what we did with Darche last year. Extra security for the player, and for a team with deep enough pockets it's pretty much win-win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaubie Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Finally! Ryan White Signs One-year deal. Personally, I'm really glad he's back for another year. His role may be seen as small but he has a role and it fits in this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-1 Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 One way or two way, that is the question. There wasn't any doubt in my mind that he was coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Glad to see the deal is finally done... just leaves Gorges now. White is one of my favorite players on the team for the style of play and heart he brings. Would love to see some other guys show some of the same commitment to hard play White does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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