ColRouleBleu Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 #26 Josh Gorges Bio Stats Video Not drafted Archive 2010-2011 QUOTE LIBRARY “This is where I want to be. I don’t want to go anywhere else; I want to play here as long as I can. Obviously it was a huge turnaround being traded here [from San Jose] because it’s something you don’t get anywhere else. To have a taste of what it’s like to win in the playoffs, I don’t think there would be any other place you’d want to go to win. This is the city you want to win the Stanley Cup in. ” - Josh Gorges - canadiens.com May 10, 2011 From the 2010-2011 thread: “I’m maybe not the oldest guy or the most experienced guy in the room, but I’ve been a part of this team longer than almost anyone here now. I think the more the season progressed, I started to feel more comfortable standing up in the room, talking more and taking control at time.” - Josh Gorges, canadiens.com, June 7 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddienmike Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 To get Josh signed to a deal Will make next season seem really real I think this season a revelation you will see When our Josh no longer has a bad knee He has been growing in confidence growing in strength Getting him signed makes a lot of sense I think you will find he will skate a lot more Now that his knee is no longer sore You know he will try and block every shot Always giving all he's got This guy is a HAB through and through He will do what he has to do GO GORGES GO :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Josh Gorges has until tomorrow (Tuesday) at 5 p.m. to file for arbitration if a new deal is not signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince1975 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Crazy idea. Trade Gorges with 3 first round draft picks for Shea Weber or Drew Doughty. Montreal has some cap space available to sign one of these elite D to a long term $7 - $8 million contract. PG might have to find a few million via a buyout or trade but this should be relatively easy. Plus PG always has the Gomez salary that could be dumped via buyout or trade or waiver. I really think Gorges is worth around $3 million per season as he is extremely good defensively. However Gorges does get very many points so he might be expendable as the team believes that Markov is healthy enough for his new contract. On most NHL teams including Montreal Gorges is a top 4 D. This has to have trade value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewfoundlandHab Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Filed for arbitration yesterday according to his agent and TSN. Agent says goal is still to get him signed before arb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Filed for arbitration yesterday according to his agent and TSN. Agent says goal is still to get him signed before arb. Thanks for the update... now this below could make some sense if a player could be traded once arbitration papers are filed (you can't unfortunately ) Crazy idea. Trade Gorges with 3 first round draft picks for Shea Weber or Drew Doughty. Montreal has some cap space available to sign one of these elite D to a long term $7 - $8 million contract. PG might have to find a few million via a buyout or trade but this should be relatively easy. Plus PG always has the Gomez salary that could be dumped via buyout or trade or waiver. I really think Gorges is worth around $3 million per season as he is extremely good defensively. However Gorges does get very many points so he might be expendable as the team believes that Markov is healthy enough for his new contract. On most NHL teams including Montreal Gorges is a top 4 D. This has to have trade value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddienmike Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Josh will get it done before arbitration,he does not want to go somewhere else.He has said before why would any one want to play anywhere else,I think he is worth the 3 million,he has said he is training hard to skate better and if you remember before he had his opp he was starting to shoot the puck and get into the play more,he said the other players were encouraging him to do more of this and now he will no longer suffer from any pain,I think we will see an even better Gorges next season. I think he only applied for arbitration to help secure his position and on his agents advice,because there is no way he will not get it sorted,the agent is looking after his own pocket not Josh's I believe we will still keep him,he is not only valuable to us as a player. GO JOSH GO :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIENS27 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Crazy idea. Trade Gorges with 3 first round draft picks for Shea Weber or Drew Doughty. Montreal has some cap space available to sign one of these elite D to a long term $7 - $8 million contract. PG might have to find a few million via a buyout or trade but this should be relatively easy. Plus PG always has the Gomez salary that could be dumped via buyout or trade or waiver. I really think Gorges is worth around $3 million per season as he is extremely good defensively. However Gorges does get very many points so he might be expendable as the team believes that Markov is healthy enough for his new contract. On most NHL teams including Montreal Gorges is a top 4 D. This has to have trade value. Why would we want to deal off three first round draft picks or any for that matter? We need to continue rebuilding this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikz_77 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Josh will get it done before arbitration,he does not want to go somewhere else.He has said before why would any one want to play anywhere else,I think he is worth the 3 million,he has said he is training hard to skate better and if you remember before he had his opp he was starting to shoot the puck and get into the play more,he said the other players were encouraging him to do more of this and now he will no longer suffer from any pain,I think we will see an even better Gorges next season. I think he only applied for arbitration to help secure his position and on his agents advice,because there is no way he will not get it sorted,the agent is looking after his own pocket not Josh's I believe we will still keep him,he is not only valuable to us as a player. GO JOSH GO :( NO WAY!! Gorges is NOT worth 3 million.. I would say give him 1.75 million or 2 million max! 3 million and we should walk, let him go. Gorges is Gorges because of Montreal! He was a nobody until he came to Montreal. I rather keep 3 million and sign another good defensemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 NO WAY!! Gorges is NOT worth 3 million.. I would say give him 1.75 million or 2 million max! 3 million and we should walk, let him go. Gorges is Gorges because of Montreal! He was a nobody until he came to Montreal. I rather keep 3 million and sign another good defensemen. What about maturity and development since he was a nobody?... has to count for something, but I agree not 3 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncivilengineer Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 What about maturity and development since he was a nobody?... has to count for something, but I agree not 3 million. If he was offered 1.5 I'd say arbitration would take him between 2.25 and 2.75 for one year IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 If he was offered 1.5 I'd say arbitration would take him between 2.25 and 2.75 for one year IMO. The QO was 1.3 million so it could be less maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 If he was offered 1.5 I'd say arbitration would take him between 2.25 and 2.75 for one year IMO. According to HIO, they mentioned the amount that was offered, but not the length of the contract. Just speculation, but I feel he's also looking for a long term contract. Habs have been handing out these one year deals to all their returning players. Minus Markov, he's the only one who was offered more than one season. It's hard to guesstimate what arbitration will offer him (specially with his season being cut short), but I think you may be right. I'm thinking around 2.25-2.5 per season. We should find out soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 NO WAY!! Gorges is NOT worth 3 million.. I would say give him 1.75 million or 2 million max! 3 million and we should walk, let him go. Gorges is Gorges because of Montreal! He was a nobody until he came to Montreal. I rather keep 3 million and sign another good defensemen. A lot of hockey players start as nobodies. I agree, 3 mil is a lil steep, he is what he is, a 3rd pairing, stay at home dman, with limited offensive skills, a PK specialist and a good shut down dman, who can do top line minutes in a clutch. I'd go as high as 2.5 mil, given his experience, durability and what he's done for us over the last few years. Sure he was a nobody when he joined the Habs, but he's been a pleasant surprise and if we don't take him, another team will snatch him up. And they'll probably sign him to around 3 mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikz_77 Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Sure he was a nobody when he joined the Habs, but he's been a pleasant surprise and if we don't take him, another team will snatch him up. And they'll probably sign him to around 3 mil. Good I hope some other team will snatch and over-pay him, if it is anywhere near 3 million. On another note, I really dont like how they offer players 1 year terms. 2 years in not bad IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncivilengineer Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 According to HIO, they mentioned the amount that was offered, but not the length of the contract. Just speculation, but I feel he's also looking for a long term contract. Habs have been handing out these one year deals to all their returning players. Minus Markov, he's the only one who was offered more than one season. It's hard to guesstimate what arbitration will offer him (specially with his season being cut short), but I think you may be right. I'm thinking around 2.25-2.5 per season. We should find out soon enough. Weber, Patches, and Desharnais were all given 2-year contracts FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Weber, Patches, and Desharnais were all given 2-year contracts FYI. You're right, forgot about them. 2 years, nothing significant though. I think Gorges may be looking for something a lil more stable(3-5 years). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Vancouver Canucks forward Jannik Hansen and Montreal Canadiens defenceman Josh Gorges were among the players who filed for salary arbitration on Tuesday. Hansen is looking for a raise after his most successful year in the league where he scored 29 points and performed well as a penalty killer. The 25-year-old was awarded an $825,000 salary last season after Vancouver took him to arbitration. Gorges' agent Kevin Epp is adamant that the goal is to get his client signed before it comes to an arbitration hearing. The 26-year-old defender appeared in 36 games for the Canadiens a year ago, recording one goal and six assists. Other notable names who have filed before the deadline include Winnipeg Jets forward Blake Wheeler, Edmonton Oilers forward Andrew Cogliano, Buffalo Sabres defenceman Andrej Sekera, Tampa Bay Lightning forward Teddy Purcell, Chicago Blackhawks defenceman Chris Campoli, Nashville Predators forward Sergei Kostitsyn, and New York Islanders forward Blake Comeau. The New York Rangers had four players file, including Ryan Callahan, Brandon Dubinsky, Brian Boyle, and Michael Sauer. The NHL and the NHLPA will determine the hearing dates for each of the arbitration-eligible restricted free agents. Arbitration cases will be heard between July 20 and August 4. A player can still sign or agree to a new deal with his team up until the arbitrator's ruling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 RDS says he's opted for arbitration. He's filed for arbitration, there's still plenty of time to negotiate a deal in the mean time. Most players that file end up working out a deal with their team before the hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 He's filed for arbitration, there's still plenty of time to negotiate a deal in the mean time. Most players that file end up working out a deal with their team before the hearing. Oh sorry man, I just edited my post as a poster above me had already reported it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 I wonder... Arbitration. I can't really see it working in his favor. What did he have last season, six or seven points? I mean, what's his argument? "I block shots." Or, "I have heart." IMO, Gorges electing arbitration could be good for the Habs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 I wonder... Arbitration. I can't really see it working in his favor. What did he have last season, six or seven points? I mean, what's his argument? "I block shots." Or, "I have heart." IMO, Gorges electing arbitration could be good for the Habs. Let's hope the arbitrator feels the same way or Gorges sees the light and comes to terms with a reasonable Habs offer for what he can contribute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddienmike Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 This will never go as far as the hearing they will get it done,I think some of the posters should read Arpon Basu's article,about Gorges and his case if it ever gets that far,I don't think it's the money it's the term. Josh has been called a nobody on here,that is a terrible thing to call people,especially some one who has worked so hard for this team and given so much,Gorges was not drafted I know but neither was Tim Thomas or StLouis,so that means nothing but Josh was captain of a Calder Cup team,he took a puck in the face and didn't miss a shift,he is one of the best penalty killers in the league and for a team that gets more penalty minutes than any other that is important,he is 27 just coming up to his best years for a d man and you want to let him go,okay so maybe not 3 million but a lot more than 1.25. GO JOSH GO :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince1975 Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Why would we want to deal off three first round draft picks or any for that matter? We need to continue rebuilding this team. Our team was extremely close against the Bruins. The team that won the Cup. We lost three out of four games in OT including the game 7. Our team is very close to being a cup contender. Last year our team made it to the 3rd round. Therefore in theory trading a top 4 D for one of the four best D in the NHL would be a great move. Since an offer sheet for an elite D would result in a huge contract the return to the other team is four 1st round picks which in theory would be late 1st round picks as Montreal would be one of the better NHL teams over the next five years. So I would think that a known good player like Gorges plus three 1st round round draft picks would be fair. In fact more then fair. Maybe it could be Gorges and two 1st round draft picks since Gorges is already a top 4 D while draft picks are unknowns. I don't want to keep rebuilding. I want to win this coming season. So if there is a way to land Drew Doughty or Shea Weber I would as a fan be extremely happy. We would have one of the two best group of defencemen in the NHL and then you add Carey Price to the mix our team would be really difficult to play against. I think that Gorges will re-sign for 4 to 6 years with a cap hit of $3 million per season. I think that Gorges is one of our two best penalty killers and can play 20+ minutes per game. Could be a great pairing for either Markov or Subban! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 I wonder... Arbitration. I can't really see it working in his favor. What did he have last season, six or seven points? I mean, what's his argument? "I block shots." Or, "I have heart." IMO, Gorges electing arbitration could be good for the Habs. Right that's why I'm wondering why he filed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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