HabsRuleForever Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 Hi everyone, I'm bringing back a popular thread from last season. Yes I know we already have game day threads for every game. When they get closed as the next game approaches this is a place to come & continue the discussion. This thread is for indepth analysis of the Habs play from game to game. There are several great hockey minds here so let's put our team under the microscope here. I hope you enjoy the thread but to quote CRB from last season: "However, if this thread becomes just a general melting pot of comments that could have been posted in other threads, it may be closed then." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathon.Man Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Game #1 made me mad ....I need to go to confession for all my swearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Game #1 made me mad ....I need to go to confession for all my swearing Ticked me off as well,,,,,losing to the laffs is one thing,,,but being shut-out to them makes my blood boil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_Habs10 Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Game #1 made me mad ....I need to go to confession for all my swearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohabs58 Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 5 on 3 two games in a row,a little more dicipline,can't win games doing that every game!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepingminotaur Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Didn't like our play today at all. We were sloppy, listless, slow, and undisciplined. We scored all our goals off terrible Winnipeg turnovers or on the PP. Not once did we manufacture a goal at the net, banging in a rebound. Cole was awful, did nothing but turn over the puck. Gomez did nothing but take a lazy penalty. Gorges was a giveaway machine in our end of the rink. Gill was embarrassingly slow and a penalty machine. Gionta fanned on every scoring chance he had. Right now, this team looks the same as last year's team: great goalie, terrible defense, forwards who can't cash on scoring chances, and no net presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs-24 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 5 on 3 two games in a row,a little more dicipline,can't win games doing that every game!!!! the refs are miserable thats what leads to these 5 on 3's... crap calls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepingminotaur Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 the refs are miserable thats what leads to these 5 on 3's... crap calls No, laziness, undiscipline, and not moving our feet are what get us those 5-on-3 situations. We deserved both the 5-on-3s we were forced to kill off the past two games. Little attacked our blue line with speed, caught our players flat-footed, and forced Yemelin into a penalty. That's a good honest hockey play, not the zebras out to get us. We depend on the perfect play in order to score, and we have no net presence for rebounds. So if Cammalleri takes a perfect wrist shot, or Plekanec makes a perfect deke, or Weber unleashes a perfect slap shot, we score. But we are miserably bad at scoring those dirty goals at the net by hacking a rebound in. We lose almost every one-on-one battle at the net in the offensive zone. That's why we've been a low-scoring team forever. High-scoring teams can score the pretty goals and the dirty goals. We have an enormous amount of trouble scoring the dirty goals with any regularity. I'll just say this: Erik Cole, the regular season has started, and I am very far from impressed by your play thus far. You're supposed to be a power forward, now play like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs-24 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 No, laziness, undiscipline, and not moving our feet are what get us those 5-on-3 situations. We deserved both the 5-on-3s we were forced to kill off the past two games. Little attacked our blue line with speed, caught our players flat-footed, and forced Yemelin into a penalty. That's a good honest hockey play, not the zebras out to get us. We depend on the perfect play in order to score, and we have no net presence for rebounds. So if Cammalleri takes a perfect wrist shot, or Plekanec makes a perfect deke, or Weber unleashes a perfect slap shot, we score. But we are miserably bad at scoring those dirty goals at the net by hacking a rebound in. We lose almost every one-on-one battle at the net in the offensive zone. That's why we've been a low-scoring team forever. High-scoring teams can score the pretty goals and the dirty goals. We have an enormous amount of trouble scoring the dirty goals with any regularity. I'll just say this: Erik Cole, the regular season has started, and I am very far from impressed by your play thus far. You're supposed to be a power forward, now play like it. whatever man Emelin barely touched his jersey the refs were trying to get the Jets any advantage they could tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob616 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 I thought the defense looked pretty thin today. I'm getting worried, after Subban....it's pretty weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs-24 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 I thought the defense looked pretty thin today. I'm getting worried, after Subban....it's pretty weak. Gorges is so important as well, a dark horse on defence is Emelin.. he can bring alot to the table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepingminotaur Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 whatever man Emelin barely touched his jersey the refs were trying to get the Jets any advantage they could tonight I'm not trying to pick on you, friend, but this kind of attitude is just homerism for your team. It has no basis in reality. You're frustrated by a penalty, so you find an excuse to blame the refs. But if you look at the play, Yemelin was clearly guilty of a hooking infraction. And if you want to talk about marginal penalties, how about that interference call on Bifuglien that led to the Weber goal, which basically put the game out of Winnipeg's reach? Were the refs trying to give the Jets an advantage there? Every fan thinks the league is out to hose his team and it's not true. These are professional referees. They're not perfect, and can make mistakes, but they're also not out to get us, particularly on a sequence where our player was clearly at fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmarcello Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 I've got to agree with Weep here. If I were a Jets fan I'd be pretty annoyed at the refs tonight. That 2nd interference penalty on Buff definitely was a poor call. The Emelin hook was easily warranted. They missed some calls on both sides, but I felt I saw the Habs get away with more. There was a blatant high stick on a Jet missed, Pleks tripped a guy with no call, I seem to remember them missing a hook or a hold that would have put us down 5 on 3 again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicalhab Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Didn't like our play today at all. We were sloppy, listless, slow, and undisciplined. We scored all our goals off terrible Winnipeg turnovers or on the PP. Not once did we manufacture a goal at the net, banging in a rebound. Cole was awful, did nothing but turn over the puck. Gomez did nothing but take a lazy penalty. Gorges was a giveaway machine in our end of the rink. Gill was embarrassingly slow and a penalty machine. Gionta fanned on every scoring chance he had. Right now, this team looks the same as last year's team: great goalie, terrible defense, forwards who can't cash on scoring chances, and no net presence. It's important the team gets points now early in the season, especially against some average opponents that the team can cash in on. The Canadians need to get 4 out of a possible 4 points against Calgary and Colorado, two sub-par teams. Because the rest of the month features this : Buffalo Pittsburgh Boston twice Philadelphia I saw nothing close to redeeming qualities from Gomez myself, and nothing to indicate scoring success from Eric Cole in Mike's frustrating absence (really Weber??!), unless he begins be an asset on the power-play and starts to drive the net hard rather then a weak drive to the outside and shot wide. Emelin and Diaz played over their heads and will need to continue to do so to keep fooling opponents that our cover up defense is good (when really it's just Carey Price's golden sound positioning and strength. The teams success this afternoon came from Winnipeg's glaring mistakes indeed and there is a-lot for the team to work on from now until thrusday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathon.Man Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Ticked me off as well,,,,,losing to the laffs is one thing,,,but being shut-out to them makes my blood boil. Revenge is ours! Glad that made you laugh...I was laughing while I typed! Tonights game was under control. Was it Antropov that said he did not want to play in Winnipeg as it was too cold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob616 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 As far as the refs went, if anything they were on our side. The penalty that led to Weber's PP goal was a really bad call, and Emelin's penalty was fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketPower Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 1st game puck was bouncing all over the place except into the net - 2nd game thats more like it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innis_Mor Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Reffing for the Habs-Jets game: was pretty bad was not in favour of either team -- they made equally crappy calls and non-calls against both teams (I am not certain Buff deserved either of those interference calls -- certainly not both; PK did squat to earn his half of the "one from each team" call (where's that in the Rule Book anyway? )) @BlameItOnBettman ...... he tried to make the game all things to all people ....... "suggested" (insisted?) the 4 on-ice officials be from Manitoba; that was too much pressure on them .... and we saw the result all that didn't affect the final outcome of the game; the Habs would have won with good reffing as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketPower Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 HABS looked good early but lack of Discipline cost them against the Flames - Martin has got to crack down on this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepingminotaur Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Same old team from last season, and now we can't even kill penalties. Whatever. Eighth-place finish, here we come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Same old team from last season, and now we can't even kill penalties. Whatever. Eighth-place finish, here we come. To be fair, a lot of the problems were Carey related. We dominated that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepingminotaur Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 To be fair, a lot of the problems were Carey related. We dominated that game. And still lost, like we do whenever the goalie isn't on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 And still lost, like we do whenever the goalie isn't on. Let's not be overly dramatic here. Tonight wasn't about the goalie not being on, it was about an absolutely awful performance by Carey and that's fine, I mean it happens and it's not like he won't steal us a ton of points but really. We scored 5 goals, out shot the opposition significantly. Out chanced them significantly and Carey gave up at least 3 weak goals. Pretty hard to win with that kind of goaltending but really, tonight's a big positive ignoring the lost point. The forward depth looked good, Emelin continues to improve. If Carey stops the shots he should, it's a laugher. Carey is the least of my concerns, so long term it's really nice to see the way Pacioretty and Eller are coming along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_Habs10 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Game 4: Avalanche down Canadiens in shootout.... • At a Glance: The Colorado Avalanche won a wild game at the Bell Centre on Saturday night, winning 6-5 in a shootout over the Canadiens, who remain winless at home. Chuck Kobasew opened the scoring 4:51 into the game on a shot Carey Price would definitely like a second attempt at. Max Pacioretty got that one back for the Canadiens when he corralled a rebound in front of Semyon Varlamov's net. It took him two tries, but Pacioretty found an opening under Varlamov's arm and put the puck into the next at the 10:31 mark. The teams traded five goals in the second period. The Canadiens took a 2-1 lead 1:35 into the second period when Tomas Plekanec blasted a shot past Varlamov during a 5-on-3 power play. The Avalanche got their own power-play goal at 11:37 when David Jones beat Price to the glove side only seconds after a faceoff. Then, less than a minute later, Paul Stastny picked P.K. Subban's pocket and went it alone on Price and slipping one between the goaltender's pads to make it 3-2 Colorado. Before the end of the period, however, Travis Moen tied the game 3-3 with about four minutes to play. Jones restored the Avalanche lead when he scored with the team's playing 4-on-4 with 1:18 to play. The Canadiens took the lead in the third period with two quick goals. Captain Brian Gionta got his first of the season at 12:57 when, with his back to Varlamov, backhanded a shot between the goalie's legs. Only 20 seconds later, David Desharnais got his first of the season when he redirected a pass from Pacioretty. But the 5-4 lead was short lived because Kyle Quincey scored with a one-time during a power play at 15:57. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepingminotaur Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Let's not be overly dramatic here. Tonight wasn't about the goalie not being on, it was about an absolutely awful performance by Carey and that's fine, I mean it happens and it's not like he won't steal us a ton of points but really. We scored 5 goals, out shot the opposition significantly. Out chanced them significantly and Carey gave up at least 3 weak goals. Pretty hard to win with that kind of goaltending but really, tonight's a big positive ignoring the lost point. The forward depth looked good, Emelin continues to improve. If Carey stops the shots he should, it's a laugher. Carey is the least of my concerns, so long term it's really nice to see the way Pacioretty and Eller are coming along. Fair enough. Cole has yet to impress me, though. I hope he gets going soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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