BeanCountingHab Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Wow, I am really excited about how this draft went. Nice start to Bergevin's regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Dalton Thrower to be honest was unknown to me. After research, although quite small he plays with heart... Depending upon who you believe, he's either 5'10" or 6' even. He's also listed at between 189 - 200lbs. For an 18 year old, that is hardly "quite small." Sure, he's no Lucic, but he appears to be built solidly & more importantly seems to play big. IMHO too many people put too much stock on height when it comes to judging size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Wow, I am really excited about how this draft went. Nice start to Bergevin's regime. Agreed. We took the guy Ive wanted for a while (Galy) and we came up big with some 2nd round steals. What a year to have a couple of high second rounders. Usually, I find myself thinking that 1 or 2 of our picks have legitimate chances of being top 6 forwards or top 4 defensmen at some point. This year, if developed right, I think there's a very real chance of 4 or even 5 of these guys making an impact on this roster within 4 or 5 years. Terrific start for the new guard. And this is even without the help of Rick Dudley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31Careyprice Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Solid draft for the habs, lots of very good players drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBIGGESTHABSFAN123 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Watching some of Throwers fights, and I can say that I am very impressed. http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/13079 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenzed Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 What an exciting draft 2012 was. I'm delighted with the young men that we picked and look forward to seeing how they progress. Just as exciting for me though was seeing how our GM works, and how he works with his staff. This report on Canadiens website gives a nice little insight on why we are fortunate to have Trevor Timmens. Bergevin acknowledges TT's wealth of knowledge, and the fact that TT impressess more and more every day is fantastic as obviously MB is not too short of knowledge himself. The way both men conducted themselves in Pittsburgh was to say the least exemplary. No stupid talk, empty promises, and straight and to the point; a fantastic representation for our organisation. I know it's very early days under MB's leadership, but they are obviously pulling in the same direction, and if all the other members of the front office are the same the future is looking very, very bright. Good luck to them all, they have my support. http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=635909 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeFreshMaker Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I just listened to TT's interview after the draft and he said they wanted to draft a goalie. I think they wanted to draft Subban and that would be the reason for trying to trade up. Oh well, at least we got a solid group of prospects from this draft and maybe we can use one of our 2nd round picks on a goalie next year if someone good is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I just listened to TT's interview after the draft and he said they wanted to draft a goalie. I think they wanted to draft Subban and that would be the reason for trying to trade up. Oh well, at least we got a solid group of prospects from this draft and maybe we can use one of our 2nd round picks on a goalie next year if someone good is available. I definitely doubt it was Subban, especially with how much they loved Collberg and how surprised they were he slid like that. If anything, they probably wanted a goalie anywhere from round 3 (at the earliest) to 6 and I'd have to guess on the later end of that. It's risky to draft any goalie in the first 60 picks and with the luxury of having a superstar not even in his prime, we can afford to try and take some chances on guys in the lower rounds, hope we eventually hit on a Rinne or something but otherwise just keep our system stocked with a few goalies at a time. Starter position is taken care of and decent backups are going for real cheap right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbaker8787 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I agree with Roy_133 with trying to find a goalie through later rounds, there would be a controversy brought upon the organization drafting an expected superstar goalie because we already have one. It'd be nice to bring up a goalie that doesn't have too high of expectations and embrace and excel in a 25-30 start season, in a couple years when we all think the club can seriously be a contender for years to come. I don't think having one tender play 70-75 games is where the games going, there's so many great goalies and only 30 teams to play for. It would also keep Price fresh for the playoffs, and wouldn't leave us cringing if he has a dry spell or gets injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I haven't been on the last cpl of days, and I missed the draft , but, after looking at our picks, it is plain to see that MB et. all know their stuff. I for one am really happy the way everything turned out. I am rather disappointed that Subban went to "those guys" (would rather he went west). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitom Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I haven't been on the last cpl of days, and I missed the draft , but, after looking at our picks, it is plain to see that MB et. all know their stuff. I for one am really happy the way everything turned out. I am rather disappointed that Subban went to "those guys" (would rather he went west). Glad to see you back. Though when life gets in the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Glad to see you back. Though when life gets in the way. TKS Habitom,,,,,lots of reading to catch-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBIGGESTHABSFAN123 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 TKS Habitom,,,,,lots of reading to catch-up. Read all of the posts on this thread while the draft was going on. I had 100+ posts that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitom Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Read all of the posts on this thread while the draft was going on. I had 100+ posts that day. I noticed! I think you mentioned you had a "speed stick". I'm guessing it isn't underarm protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatethosebruins Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Read all of the posts on this thread while the draft was going on. I had 100+ posts that day. pfft last offseason for the month of july I averaged 100 posts per day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitom Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 pfft last offseason for the month of july I averaged 100 posts per day Can you post the official stats for us stat fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBIGGESTHABSFAN123 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 pfft last offseason for the month of july I averaged 100 posts per day Soon I'll catch up to you and get ahead, I only have like 2000 less posts than you and you've been on this forum 1 year, and like 7 months longer than me and lately, I have been posting a lot. And you did post a lot last year but I doubt you averaged anywhere near 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBIGGESTHABSFAN123 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I noticed! I think you mentioned you had a "speed stick". I'm guessing it isn't underarm protection. It was about the deodorant. There was an add on TSN about the speed stick so I mentioned that I have one. :P :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrique_rauen Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I've posted this on the Islanders threat, but not sure if the correct place is here or there.... so there it is: I just read this. And can't believe it: The Islander offered ALL their picks in this past draft for columbus 1st round pick (2nd overall), because they wanted Murray! (Good to mention that included the Islander 1st round pick, 4th overall) This is non-sense!!! I'm not sure who is more stupid, the Islanders for making such an offer, or the jackets for rejecting it! This kind of things are so unreal that not even in videogames it happens!! Now I'm sure that unless something changes dramatically, both this franchises will stay in the bottom of the league for a loooooong time. Feel sorry for Rick Nash. Edited. Link removed. Unconfirmed source (blog). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince1975 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I would have picked Forsberg. Hopefully Galchenyuk becomes the star player!!! I will be very happy if I am wrong about Forsberg versus Galchenyuk as I want Montreal to have an elite forward. It has been far too many years since Montreal has had a top 10 player in scoring. I do wonder how hard our new GM tried to get a 2nd pick in the first round especially with Forsberg and Teravainen going later in the 1st round than expected by many experts. Would our #33 pick and #51 equal lets say the #18 pick? On paper the #33 Collberg and #51 Thrower picks are potential NHL players in a few years as several experts had those players in the top 30. But would two 2nd round picks equal one mid 1st round pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grecohab Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I would have picked Forsberg. Hopefully Galchenyuk becomes the star player!!! I will be very happy if I am wrong about Forsberg versus Galchenyuk as I want Montreal to have an elite forward. It has been far too many years since Montreal has had a top 10 player in scoring. I do wonder how hard our new GM tried to get a 2nd pick in the first round especially with Forsberg and Teravainen going later in the 1st round than expected by many experts. Would our #33 pick and #51 equal lets say the #18 pick? On paper the #33 Collberg and #51 Thrower picks are potential NHL players in a few years as several experts had those players in the top 30. But would two 2nd round picks equal one mid 1st round pick? I tend to agree with you, in claiming another 1st round pick, but not in the cost of our 2nd round picks. To clarify myself, i think overall that this was a very good draft for us, but easily could have been a glorious one, if we managed to claim another 1st round pick. About a month ago, i suggested that we should extensively explore the option of trading a centerman especially if we were able to draft Galtsenuyk. My preferable player to move out was Desharnais, but i have to admit that Plekanec would have fetched us the better value in return. Actually i proposed a trade with a team in dear need of a very good two-way center, like Chicago. My proposal was Plekanec for the 18th overall+McNeill+Morin. Eventually we took Galtsenuyk, and the 18th overall turned out to be Teravainen plus we would gain two good prospects in McNeill and Morin. Just imagine a line in the future of Collberg-Galtsenuyk-Teravainen. Awesome... At the same time i figured that it would be easier, for us, to target a team with two 1st round picks, and make an offer for one of them. Since Buffalo is a divisional rival and Tampa was going to pick a goalie with one of the picks (they did), the obvious choice was Washington. Also a team in dear need of a two-way centerman, (this actually got established with the Ribeiro trade), i think they would consider an offer of Plekanec for the 11th overall plus Karlson or Orlov or Eakins. The 11th overall pick turned out to be Forsberg, and coming out of this draft with Galtsenuyk, Forsberg, Collberg would be a dream coming true. What is done though, is done. I am sure management done its best to acquire another 1st rounder, not an easy task, indeed. Again, i believe it was a terrific draft for us, as i have already posted before. The only thing worth questioning is if there was any kind of effort in trading some underperforming players or stalled prospects for draft picks at the later rounds especially with so many potential good players going late. As example i think Weber was worth a 4th rounder and we could pick there a player like Athanasiou. Mitera, Enqvist, Conboy, Bishop were worth 5th, 6th, or 7th round picks, and we could have claimed players like Griffith, Hyka, Zlobin, Beauvillier (we should have claimed him, with the 6th), Sinitsyn or Ebert. Ebert last overall is a joke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 would two 2nd round picks equal one mid 1st round pick? i think overall that this was a very good draft for us, but easily could have been a glorious one, if we managed to claim another 1st round pick. It once again illustrates why I think that if molson had decided Gauthier was not in the cards, we should have gotten rid of him much sooner. Gauthier was still trying to claw his way into the playoffs at deadline day & made only a couple of moves. Had we been able to grab Bergevin earlier, who knows what may have been - pick(s) for Moen? packaging Gill and AK and getting a 1st? Maybe there were other roster players that we could have moved. But it didnt happen & we dealt with what we had and frankly, Im happy the way it came together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I would have picked Forsberg. Hopefully Galchenyuk becomes the star player!!! I will be very happy if I am wrong about Forsberg versus Galchenyuk as I want Montreal to have an elite forward. It has been far too many years since Montreal has had a top 10 player in scoring. I do wonder how hard our new GM tried to get a 2nd pick in the first round especially with Forsberg and Teravainen going later in the 1st round than expected by many experts. Would our #33 pick and #51 equal lets say the #18 pick? On paper the #33 Collberg and #51 Thrower picks are potential NHL players in a few years as several experts had those players in the top 30. But would two 2nd round picks equal one mid 1st round pick? I do agree two picks in the first round would have been nice but at what cost? I can't see trading one of our core member's (who are still young themselves) for an unproven prospect. It just doesn't make sense to me. Heck, even at #3 Galchenyuk is still unproven at the NHL level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrique_rauen Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Link to official source regarding the news I have posted before. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=635992 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Link to official source regarding the news I have posted before. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=635992 Hard to believe the Isles would offer that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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