hatethosebruins Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I wonder if pierre called about the job opening up that woulda been quite the change over for the media, from Mr press conference to Mr press statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 It will be interesting to see if they go for Lou. My money's on yes, (but I hope they don't get him). . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnipegJet Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 He's made some pretty glaring mistakes but he's also done a good job taking a farm system that was totally bare and making it productive. Weird move, must have been a personality clash. I feel like something weird had to have happened, and recently. This move doesn't make a whole lot of sense, and the timing makes even less sense. He hasn't brought them to the promised land yet as many Torontonians prophesized, but I think he could have also done far worse as GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_Habs10 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 He's made some pretty glaring mistakes but he's also done a good job taking a farm system that was totally bare and making it productive. Weird move, must have been a personality clash. Maybe between Dave Nonis & Burke.....regarding bringing Luongo into leaf land & the length of a contract?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I feel like something weird had to have happened, and recently. This move doesn't make a whole lot of sense, and the timing makes even less sense. He hasn't brought them to the promised land yet as many Torontonians prophesized, but I think he could have also done far worse as GM. May simply be a case of the new owners wanting to dismantle the dictatorship that BB was granted when he was hired. I don't get the timing, but maybe those Luongo rumours have legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 May simply be a case of the new owners wanting to dismantle the dictatorship that BB was granted when he was hired. I don't get the timing, but maybe those Luongo rumours have legs. But a GM should have complete and total control otherwise you have the situation JFJ was in prior to Burke's arrival, strings clearly being pulled by the board in the hunt of a few home playoff dates. Dreger said those Luongo rumors aren't true, think Mckenzie did as well. Seems like a personality clash. If they really hated the way Burke was running the hockey team, the logical move isn't probably to hire his right hand man on anything other than an interim basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 There is a clash with new ownership for sure. From a production standpoint how many times did they make the playoffs with Burke? ZERO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 But a GM should have complete and total control otherwise you have the situation JFJ was in prior to Burke's arrival, strings clearly being pulled by the board in the hunt of a few home playoff dates. Dreger said those Luongo rumors aren't true, think Mckenzie did as well. Seems like a personality clash. If they really hated the way Burke was running the hockey team, the logical move isn't probably to hire his right hand man on anything other than an interim basis. You won't get an argument from me roy but it might not be the situation the new owners want. It's their money so i suppose they have that privilege. We may never hear the real reason he was let go. There is a clash with new ownership for sure. From a production standpoint how many times did they make the playoffs with Burke? ZERO Very true. It's more then enough reason to justify letting him go. It's the timing of it all that has everybody confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 You won't get an argument from me roy but it might not be the situation the new owners want. It's their money so i suppose they have that privilege. We may never hear the real reason he was let go. Very true. It's more then enough reason to justify letting him go. It's the timing of it all that has everybody confused. Actually I firmly believe we will find out because he will tell us. His outspokeness is also a reason people forget how much he actually didn't help the Leafs achieve success at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Actually I firmly believe we will find out because he will tell us. His outspokeness is also a reason people forget how much he actually didn't help the Leafs achieve success at all. He's still on the payroll so for now he'll have to zip it. His Cherryness is on hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 He's still on the payroll so for now he'll have to zip it. His Cherryness is on hold. He will spill the beans sooner or later. Actually I heard the Bruins may be interested in filing tampering charges against the Leafs for firing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 He will spill the beans sooner or later. Actually I heard the Bruins may be interested in filing tampering charges against the Leafs for firing him. I heard the Leafs were filling charges against the Bruins for a little payola on the sly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatethosebruins Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I personally am glad they hired Brian Burke Round 2 to take over. I was afraid they may go and get one of the guys we passed over like Brisebois. But then I remembered thats too smart for Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 The firing of Burke was kinda sudden, but no one can say they're really surprised. he was suppose to get the leafs back on track and all he managed to do was keep Wilson around and miss the playoffs. Oh yeah, he also traded away the best prospect they've had in decades for a guy named Kessel. :lol: That one still makes me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Actually I firmly believe we will find out because he will tell us. His outspokeness is also a reason people forget how much he actually didn't help the Leafs achieve success at all. He was the complete opposite of PG. Where PG had the "say nothing" approach, BB had the blab about everything approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_Habs10 Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 NO fear leaf fans, he's still on board in an advisory role lol......yea,like B.Gainey was with PG .......he'll be still calling the shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnw1962 Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 this is just another example of the circus called the Toronto Maple Leafs, now they think that by adding Luongo they are a Stanley Cup contender, if Luongo could not win a cup in Vancouver he is not going to win one in Toronto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_Habs10 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Burke 'floored' by dismissal as TOR GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Former Leafs GM Brian Burke will discuss his dismissal on Saturday. BB will whine & complain & blame everyone else today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnipegJet Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 There is a clash with new ownership for sure. From a production standpoint how many times did they make the playoffs with Burke? ZERO I don't know if that's a fair method of assessment given the shambles of a team inherited by Burke. They had one of the poorest prospect pools in the league from what I recall. Burke's strategy was clearly long-term since there was no evident short-term fix for the Leafs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I don't know if that's a fair method of assessment given the shambles of a team inherited by Burke. They had one of the poorest prospect pools in the league from what I recall. Burke's strategy was clearly long-term since there was no evident short-term fix for the Leafs. I've always liked Brian Burke for his non-nonsense attitude. And even though I don't always agree with his decisions, I agree with a lot of his philosophy of trying to build a team from the net out with solid goaltending and stud D men and of going after guys who have grit. That said, enacting that philosophy is not always easy, and BB was never able to find a good enough goalie to make that work. He stole Phaneuf from Calgary, but he'll always be remembered for the mindnumbingly awful deal that brought in Kessel. All in all, I agree though that he was left with a mess to sort out and he didn't have a good way of finding a short-term fix without putting the franchise in peril long-term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 It will be interesting to see if they go for Lou. My money's on yes, (but I hope they don't get him). . The biggest blunder any team could make is trading for Luongo. 10 1/2 more years with a cap hit of 5.3 mil at which time he'll be 43. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatethosebruins Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 The biggest blunder any team could make is trading for Luongo. 10 1/2 more years with a cap hit of 5.3 mil at which time he'll be 43. AKA, smartest move Toronto will make since the kessel deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_Habs10 Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Burke still maintains that Reimer is/was the man to go with......tell me that they were all on the same page going forward here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Burke still maintains that Reimer is/was the man to go with......tell me that they were all on the same page going forward here That's the losing page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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