kinot-1 Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 After signing DD to a 4 year deal, I'd be surprised they only signed Eller to a 1 year deal. If it were up to me, I'd sign eller to the 4 year deal and DD to a 1-2 yeard deal. My mistake,,,I should have said that Lars was signed to a 2 year deal,,, but now only has one year left on his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Just been reading HIO they are saying Lars has been signed for another 2 years,but I can't find it anywhere else,but if he has that makes me happy,just wish it was for longer love the guy,hope what happened to him in the playoffs won't affect him. GO LARS GO :wub: Hrm. Old article? I dont see it listed on their site... I would imagine, since he's signed for one more year, that it wont be until next summer & at that point I sure hope its longer than only a 2 year deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepsItReal Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 20 goals, 50 points. Over/under on both. I'll say over for both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Imo that Lars will only get better, the kid is still young and not even close to his prime yet. If given ice-time, I'm sure he could easily hit the 60 point mark. I've always seen him as a 60-80 point player eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 20 goals, 50 points. Over/under on both. I'll say over for both! Imo that Lars will only get better, the kid is still young and not even close to his prime yet. If given ice-time, I'm sure he could easily hit the 60 point mark. I've always seen him as a 60-80 point player eventually. Agree with FirstStar - will totally depend on his ice-time, assignments and line-mates. Assuming he gets decent ice-time and doesnt get pushed down to checking line centre, I think 55+ points is definitely not out of the question. If he sticks with the 2 Gallys & they continue to play well, even a PPG or close is not unattainable. Might be nice to get him locked up long term THIS summer in that case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob616 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 20 goals, 50 points. Over/under on both. I'll say over for both! If he gets proper ice time then over for both. If he stays on the 3rd line with Prust and Galchenyuk, probably just under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Agree with FirstStar - will totally depend on his ice-time, assignments and line-mates. Assuming he gets decent ice-time and doesnt get pushed down to checking line centre, I think 55+ points is definitely not out of the question. If he sticks with the 2 Gallys & they continue to play well, even a PPG or close is not unattainable. Might be nice to get him locked up long term THIS summer in that case Agreed, ice-time and offensive linemates like the 2 gally's or even one gally and RB, who can play defensively and offensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 After signing DD to a 4 year deal, I'd be surprised they only signed Eller to a 1 year deal. If it were up to me, I'd sign eller to the 4 year deal and DD to a 1-2 yeard deal. Bang on FS. Ellers gonna be a star on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Bang on FS. Ellers gonna be a star on this team. After last season, I can see the potential of him being a mini version of Pleks. He showed us offense last season with reduced minutes on the 3rd line, without the benefit of PP time and being on the 3rd line has developed his defensive game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepsItReal Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 After last season, I can see the potential of him being a mini version of Pleks. He showed us offense last season with reduced minutes on the 3rd line, without the benefit of PP time and being on the 3rd line has developed his defensive game. With the added size I've long thought Eller could someday be a larger version of Pleks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddienmike Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Eller has some smarts too,he skates really well and he has shown us some nice hands at times,that fact that he has developed his defensive side,and his work ethic makes him a player that can be relied on. MY only hope is that he gets more ice time and steady linemates,not like Pleks has had all his career so far,which has hampered his production, I think we will see a really good career from him and at 23 he has his best years yet to come. GO LARRY GO :wub: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MkGee Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 future 2nd line de la rose eller collberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regis2 Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 future 2nd line de la rose eller collberg Seriously , Who are these two guys ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBIGGESTHABSFAN123 Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Seriously , Who are these two guys ? Two of our top prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 Two of our top prospects. Two top prospects who have so much to prove before being labelled as future second liners. I'm not going to get too high on De La Rose right now. We just selected him and I know nothing about him. Apparently Colberg was quite the steal according to some from last year's draft, so I'm a little more optimistic about him making the NHL. Whether or not Eller is around when that happens, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepsItReal Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 Two top prospects who have so much to prove before being labelled as future second liners. I'm not going to get too high on De La Rose right now. We just selected him and I know nothing about him. Apparently Colberg was quite the steal according to some from last year's draft, so I'm a little more optimistic about him making the NHL. Whether or not Eller is around when that happens, who knows? Collberg was a steal in last years' draft, but this years draft was supposed to be the deepest draft in years. So odds are the player picked at 34 this year has pretty good chance of being an impact NHL'er. Eller is just 24 years old, it's not the old days where guys don't come into the league til 23, 24 and hit their prime at 27. Guys are increasingly coming up way sooner, and hitting their stride way sooner as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 Eller is just 24 years old, it's not the old days where guys don't come into the league til 23, 24 and hit their prime at 27. Guys are increasingly coming up way sooner, and hitting their stride way sooner as well. I think JR's comment was more to do with the fact that "who knows" what happens in the next few years - Eller could be traded etc - not that he will be past his prime by the time those 2 are ready to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 Collberg was a steal in last years' draft, but this years draft was supposed to be the deepest draft in years. So odds are the player picked at 34 this year has pretty good chance of being an impact NHL'er. Eller is just 24 years old, it's not the old days where guys don't come into the league til 23, 24 and hit their prime at 27. Guys are increasingly coming up way sooner, and hitting their stride way sooner as well. The fact that players are joining their teams sooner nowadays has no bearing on their skill level and their prime years. the reason why prime years are in the late 20's is due to the way their bodies develop. These kids are still growing up to the ages of 22-23 and filling out up until the ages of 24-25 9sometimes later). The early and mid 20's kids are often getting use to their new frames, balance can sometimes be an issue, especially after a growth spurt. Once they've fully finished growing, then they can really concentrate on their hockey development. Until then a lot is going on with their bodies, which makes it hard to concentrate on one aspect of their games. As with anything, there are always exceptions to the rule. The 18 year old draft can be a crapshoot, I have a family friend who lives in Pincourt, just off the island of Montreal, he is an NHL scout. He said with the age being 18 now it's much harder to draft and estimate a players potential. He said you have 3 different groups, kids who develop as they should (hit their prime in their late 20's), those who peak early, as in their 20's and never develop into their true potential and then the late bloomers who usually go in the later rounds, but end up having a big impact at the NHL level. He was telling me he hates drafting 18 year old tenders. He said often times the tenders that go in later rounds end up having decent NHL careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepsItReal Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 The fact that players are joining their teams sooner nowadays has no bearing on their skill level and their prime years. the reason why prime years are in the late 20's is due to the way their develop. These kids are still growing up to the ages of 22-23 and filling out up until the ages of 24-25. The early and mid 20's kids are often getting use to their new frames, balance can sometimes be an issue, especially after a growth spurt. Once they've fully finished growing, then they can really concentrate on their hockey development. Until then a lot is going on with their bodies, which makes it hard to concentrate on one aspect of their games. As with anything, there are always exceptions to the rule. The 18 year old draft can be a crapshoot, I have a family friend who lives in Pincourt, just off the island of Montreal, he is an NHL scout. He said with the age being 18 now it's much harder to draft and estimate a players potential. He said you have 3 different groups, kids who develop as they should (hit their prime in their late 20's), those who peak early, as in their 20's and never develop into their true potential and then the late bloomers who usually go in the later rounds, but end up having a big impact at the NHL level. He was telling me he hates drafting 18 year old tenders. He said often times the tenders that go in later rounds end up having decent NHL careers. Sorry but the idea that guys all peak in their late 20's just isn't true anymore. Look around at the best players in the league, how many of them can you honestly say are significantly better now than they were in their early 20's, and conversely how much better do you think the younger guys are going to get? Ryan Getzlaf is 28 years old...you really think he's just hitting his prime the last year or two? Nope. Kopitar is 25...you think his game has another level it's going to get too? I certainly don't. Go down the list, you see guys younger than ever before as marquee high end players. The last 2 Norris trophy winners were 23 and 21 years old. David Krejci led the league in playoff scoring this year at 27, but was he actually better this year than in 2011 when he was 25? I certainly don't think so. Johnathan Toews is 25 years old, you think he'll get much better than he already is? There's so much coaching from such a young age, and these guys are working out and following such strict nutritional guides also from such a young age that the growth/maturation learning curve is a lot shorter than it may have been in the past. People like to believe that players at 22, 23 years old have this extra level or two to their game but in a lot of cases it's simply not the case. Now obviously there will always be late bloomers, guys who slowly progress (defencemen especially) and guys who come out of nowhere... But if a guy comes in the league around 20, 21...he's not going to be continually getting better through his late 20's. Guys are coming to the league eariler, establishing themselves as stars earlier, and staying around longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 Sorry but the idea that guys all peak in their late 20's just isn't true anymore. Look around at the best players in the league, how many of them can you honestly say are significantly better now than they were in their early 20's, and conversely how much better do you think the younger guys are going to get? Ryan Getzlaf is 28 years old...you really think he's just hitting his prime the last year or two? Nope. Kopitar is 25...you think his game has another level it's going to get too? I certainly don't. Go down the list, you see guys younger than ever before as marquee high end players. The last 2 Norris trophy winners were 23 and 21 years old. David Krejci led the league in playoff scoring this year at 27, but was he actually better this year than in 2011 when he was 25? I certainly don't think so. Johnathan Toews is 25 years old, you think he'll get much better than he already is? There's so much coaching from such a young age, and these guys are working out and following such strict nutritional guides also from such a young age that the growth/maturation learning curve is a lot shorter than it may have been in the past. People like to believe that players at 22, 23 years old have this extra level or two to their game but in a lot of cases it's simply not the case. Now obviously there will always be late bloomers, guys who slowly progress (defencemen especially) and guys who come out of nowhere... But if a guy comes in the league around 20, 21...he's not going to be continually getting better through his late 20's. Guys are coming to the league eariler, establishing themselves as stars earlier, and staying around longer. Prime years is an estimated age and just because a few players have blossomed in their earlier years does not necessarily mean they all will. If guys blossom at 25 or 26, then they are right on pare, a tad early than the majority but still in the norm. Prime years are usually thought to be 27-30, but that is only what the average age is, hitting their prime at 25 or 26 is still considered prime years, just the lower end. You also have those like Tim Thomas who hit his peak in his 30's, when a lot of tenders are starting to slow. Turco was great in his 20's, good in his early 30's, but complete fell off even before he hit 35. Granted, players who have been in the league longer such as Eller and our 2 gally's are developing their NHL skills much ealrier and could very well peak sooner rather than later. Still, if you count 2 gally's, Eller and PK, that still only makes 3 players out of a 23 man roster who have to potential to peak earlier, but 3 out of 23 does not mean there was a shift and that players are automatically peaking ealrier. On another note, Tyler Seguin was traded to Dallas for Eriksson in a 7 player deal. Really didn't expect the b's to deal their young star. Wow. Just caught the Tradecentre headline, going now to read the full article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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