ColRouleBleu Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 #32 Travis Moen Bio Stats Video Draft Class Archive 2011-2012 QUOTE LIBRARY “Travis brings tremendous leadership to our club, and is very appreciated from his teammates. He expressed his desire to remain with the Canadiens organization and we are very happy to have come to an agreement with him before July 1st. He has a lot of experience and brings a physical presence to our group of forwards.” - Marc Bergevin. - canadiens.com June 29, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitom Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Glad to see Travis wants to play in Montreal. Can't understand why someone wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatethosebruins Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Hopefully he picks up where he left off and doesn't disappear for 3 years till his next contract year. Liked him last season, before that I was pretty meh on him. Best of luck though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine1One Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 The length of the term is starting to hit me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tothecup24 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Glad to see Travis wants to play in Montreal. Can't understand why someone wouldn't. High tax's, media in your face and if the team is not doing we fans go crazy. hahaha if we are winning there is no better place to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regis2 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Glad to see Travis wants to play in Montreal. Can't understand why someone wouldn't. http://business.financialpost.com/2012/06/29/graphic-hockey-havens-not-necessarily-tax-havens/ Glad to see Travis wants to play in Montreal. Can't understand why someone wouldn't. http://business.financialpost.com/2012/06/29/graphic-hockey-havens-not-necessarily-tax-havens/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 http://business.financialpost.com/2012/06/29/graphic-hockey-havens-not-necessarily-tax-havens/ Go Montreal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 http://business.financialpost.com/2012/06/29/graphic-hockey-havens-not-necessarily-tax-havens/ http://business.financialpost.com/2012/06/29/graphic-hockey-havens-not-necessarily-tax-havens/ The tax situation is only part of the story. Habs as we've seen have had to over-pay to attract players. By over-paying and bonuses, the monetary issue isn't much of a factor. I don't think it's one factor, I believe it's an accumulation of things. Media pressure, the language, culture, education for their kids, spouse, etc... We often forget the human factor. Someone with young kids in school imo would prefer to keep them in the English school system. Specially when signing a short 1-3 year contract. I started school in the states and finished in Canada. A loophole allowed me to attend English school(didn't have to deal with language issue), but there are differences in education which was an adjustment for me (going from imperial to metric took some work and there are other differences). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitom Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 We can say high taxes, media pressure, schooling issues etc, but Montreal is a great city. I've been to Boston, NY, Chicago, Detroit plus all major Canadian cities and Montreal wins for its atmosphere, culture, ease of getting around. It along with TO are the two most international cities in terms of ethnic diversity, but To sucks compared to Montreal. Actually I met a couple this weekend that spent 10 years in Montreal. He is personal friend of Craig Rivet from Thunder Bay. Anyways we had a good talk on the city and he also feels Montreal is #1 city in N.A. and he is a Bruin fan. Texas has no personal income tax so why don't they clean-up on UFA signings? If a player doesn't like the media coverage stay out of Canada. Schooling, probably get tutoring, but being multi-lingual is a good thing. There is no perfect city as their is no perfect job. They all come with baggage. As for spouse, my wife hates hockey but loves Montreal. There is no other city I would rather spend a year in. Glad Moen decided to stay in Montreal. Don't know why he wouldn't want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitom Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 As for the tax issue, if you look at the teams with best tax breaks, they'll pretty much lousy most of the time. so must be more than taxes that influence players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 The tax situation is only part of the story. Habs as we've seen have had to over-pay to attract players. By over-paying and bonuses, the monetary issue isn't much of a factor. I don't think it's one factor, I believe it's an accumulation of things. Media pressure, the language, culture, education for their kids, spouse, etc... We often forget the human factor. Someone with young kids in school imo would prefer to keep them in the English school system. Specially when signing a short 1-3 year contract. I started school in the states and finished in Canada. A loophole allowed me to attend English school(didn't have to deal with language issue), but there are differences in education which was an adjustment for me (going from imperial to metric took some work and there are other differences). I can see language being an issue but on the other hand, I don't see kids learning a second language as a detriment to the kids, I see it as a benefit. Some parents(hockey players) are so narrow minded. I always give credit to any person of any nationality who can speak more than one language because I don't think it's that easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 We can say high taxes, media pressure, schooling issues etc, but Montreal is a great city. I've been to Boston, NY, Chicago, Detroit plus all major Canadian cities and Montreal wins for its atmosphere, culture, ease of getting around. It along with TO are the two most international cities in terms of ethnic diversity, but To sucks compared to Montreal. Actually I met a couple this weekend that spent 10 years in Montreal. He is personal friend of Craig Rivet from Thunder Bay. Anyways we had a good talk on the city and he also feels Montreal is #1 city in N.A. and he is a Bruin fan. Texas has no personal income tax so why don't they clean-up on UFA signings? If a player doesn't like the media coverage stay out of Canada. Schooling, probably get tutoring, but being multi-lingual is a good thing. There is no perfect city as their is no perfect job. They all come with baggage. As for spouse, my wife hates hockey but loves Montreal. There is no other city I would rather spend a year in. Glad Moen decided to stay in Montreal. Don't know why he wouldn't want to. That's what they're doing and we are having problems attracting players. I don't think it's one specific issue that makes Montreal are hard sale. I believe it's an accumulation of things. Players do talk and when you see local, Quebec born players turning down the historic habs, that sends a pretty clear message. I've lived in many cities, I'm a true blue city boy. I grew up in Michigan, living in Detroit and Grand Rapids, I spent less than a year in south Boston and almost 2 years in NY (Irish Brooklyn) before landing in Montreal. I love Montreal, as for Canada, I've only lived in or around Montreal and some time in TO. For me, Montreal beats TO hands down. Sometimes you have to live in an area to see how great it is, if players were willing to give it a chance, they may learn to love it. But it's hard to sign away 3-6 years of your life, specially if there's a chance you won't like the city or organization(and there are other people who are in the equation-family). Gio said several times he was curious about Montreal after hearing Robinson rave about playing hockey here. So when the habs came asking, Gio jumped on the opportunity. And Robinson after his playing career has tried several times to come back. Robinson is only one person, you have so many more turning down the opportunity to play in Montreal. Quebec gets a really bad rap from the rest of Canada. It's really unfair since most of it is coming from people who have never stepped foot in Quebec. I'm really curious to see if and/or when Quebec city gets a team if they have the same issues landing players. It was easier for me to make the move, I wasn't uprooting a family, I was a young team following my parents. In honesty, I didn't really want to leave the states, but love it today. As for the tax issue, if you look at the teams with best tax breaks, they'll pretty much lousy most of the time. so must be more than taxes that influence players. Like I said, taxes are only one issue. When the player sits down with his family and discusses the pros and cons, the cons probably outweigh the pros. So I really don't think it's one issue, I feel it's an accumulation of things. Being a Montrealer and having dealt with the separation thing in the past, I'm not worried. Someone looking in from the outside may have a different take on it. There are so many issues that at the end of the day they may want to chose a situation a lil more familiar to them. I love Montreal, love Quebec, the people, culture... Not a fan of the politics, but that's a whole other discussion. For someone who's grown up in English Canada or the states, it can be quite a change or adjustment and not everybody sees the excitement of a new location as appealing. Quebec is so different from every other province, personally I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. But the fear of the unknown may be another factor in signing outside Quebec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatethosebruins Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I can see language being an issue but on the other hand, I don't see kids learning a second language as a detriment to the kids, I see it as a benefit. Some parents(hockey players) are so narrow minded. I always give credit to any person of any nationality who can speak more than one language because I don't think it's that easy. It is, i stayed with family friends when I went ot the game CRB gave me tickets too, their kids who are toddlers speak french and english. Sure made me feel bad speaking only english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitom Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 That's what they're doing and we are having problems attracting players. I don't think it's one specific issue that makes Montreal are hard sale. I believe it's an accumulation of things. Players do talk and when you see local, Quebec born players turning down the historic habs, that sends a pretty clear message. I've lived in many cities, I'm a true blue city boy. I grew up in Michigan, living in Detroit and Grand Rapids, I spent less than a year in south Boston and almost 2 years in NY (Irish Brooklyn) before landing in Montreal. I love Montreal, as for Canada, I've only lived in or around Montreal and some time in TO. For me, Montreal beats TO hands down. Sometimes you have to live in an area to see how great it is, if players were willing to give it a chance, they may learn to love it. But it's hard to sign away 3-6 years of your life, specially if there's a chance you won't like the city or organization(and there are other people who are in the equation-family). Gio said several times he was curious about Montreal after hearing Robinson rave about playing hockey here. So when the habs came asking, Gio jumped on the opportunity. And Robinson after his playing career has tried several times to come back. Robinson is only one person, you have so many more turning down the opportunity to play in Montreal. Quebec gets a really bad rap from the rest of Canada. It's really unfair since most of it is coming from people who have never stepped foot in Quebec. I'm really curious to see if and/or when Quebec city gets a team if they have the same issues landing players. It was easier for me to make the move, I wasn't uprooting a family, I was a young team following my parents. In honesty, I didn't really want to leave the states, but love it today. Like I said, taxes are only one issue. When the player sits down with his family and discusses the pros and cons, the cons probably outweigh the pros. So I really don't think it's one issue, I feel it's an accumulation of things. Being a Montrealer and having dealt with the separation thing in the past, I'm not worried. Someone looking in from the outside may have a different take on it. There are so many issues that at the end of the day they may want to chose a situation a lil more familiar to them. I love Montreal, love Quebec, the people, culture... Not a fan of the politics, but that's a whole other discussion. For someone who's grown up in English Canada or the states, it can be quite a change or adjustment and not everybody sees the excitement of a new location as appealing. Quebec is so different from every other province, personally I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. But the fear of the unknown may be another factor in signing outside Quebec. The issue of media coverage is in all of Canada. I remember reading that Doan stayed with Phoenix rather than deal with media in Calgary. Can't hide in Canada. I was last in Montreal for the Grey Cup, saw O'Byrne unfotunately score in own goal, and had a great time. Got a lot of pictures but haven't figured out how to put in gallery. Anyways told young guys i worked with to go to Montreal for the music scene and time of their life. "Ah, we don't speak French." I tell them not an issue, just show respect. It is people's ignorance of the facts that keep them out of Quebec. I agree with you on Quebec being unique in N.A. it is like a poor man's trip to Europe. In '72 i was hitchhiking thru Quebec to N.S. when i was dropped off on TransCanada where it split going north and east. it was single lane(each way) road with a little store at the fork. I grabbed a litre bottle of cold beer from store and waited for next ride. Where else in Canada could you do that. I see Trestman of the Als for another 4 years. He probably could coach in any state of US he wanted, but chose Montreal. FirstStar, I'm with you 100% on Montreal and Quebec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honuhab Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 so who can't wait to see Travis in top 6 and on PPU again?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 His role has been reduced a bit, probably more in line with where it should be but he's been useful like he always is. He's really grown on me. Good player. Him and Prust make up 2/3rds of a great 4th line (hopefully). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbaker8787 Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 I think Moen and the 4th line have been used wisely so far, getting lots of PK time and even strength. I just wonder if he/they will be used to shut down teams top lines in certain games, that's what he did to win the cup in Anaheim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 His role has been reduced a bit, probably more in line with where it should be but he's been useful like he always is. He's really grown on me. Good player. Him and Prust make up 2/3rds of a great 4th line (hopefully). I think we've seen this year how effective Moen can be in a 4th line role with PK minutes. When you put players in roles their skills fit, they're going to be more likely to succeed. Travis is an excellent 4th line player who can do spot-duty on the 3rd. He's being overpaid for a guy doing that job, but that's really what he's been his entire career. Having JM and RC ask him to be a second-line player was a mistake every time it happened, and I too am happy to see Moen settling into a more appropriate role and having success there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekHockeyCoach Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 I think we've seen this year how effective Moen can be in a 4th line role with PK minutes. When you put players in roles their skills fit, they're going to be more likely to succeed. Travis is an excellent 4th line player who can do spot-duty on the 3rd. He's being overpaid for a guy doing that job, but that's really what he's been his entire career. Having JM and RC ask him to be a second-line player was a mistake every time it happened, and I too am happy to see Moen settling into a more appropriate role and having success there. +1 He's being used appropriately thus far and he's been effective. He also adds added toughness to the team to compliment Prust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 TSN radio says that Moen is already confirmed for Sat. game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 TSN radio says that Moen is already confirmed for Sat. game. Was he really injured? Moen has become a slightly forgotten man in the current Habs scheme of things methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Was he really injured? Moen has become a slightly forgotten man in the current Habs scheme of things methinks. His role has been clearly reduced but he's still logging a reasonable 11 minutes and I have no reason to believe the coach would lie to get him out of the lineup. He said it was a minor injury. Moen likely could have played but why push even the slightest in a shortened season in the midst of 3 games in 4 nights. Therrien doesn't seem like the kind of guy to tiptoe, if he scratched Moen he'd likely say so IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I'm happy Travis will be back in the line-up on Saturday. He may have a reduced role with the club this season (no more scoring winger status for Moen), but he's responsible on the fourth line and hasn't taken any dumb penalties like Armstrong and White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee-X Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I'm happy Travis will be back in the line-up on Saturday. He may have a reduced role with the club this season (no more scoring winger status for Moen), but he's responsible on the fourth line and hasn't taken any dumb penalties like Armstrong and White. I agree. Moen is great on the fourth line in that they also never seem to be overmatched or on their heals during the game when he's out there. They go out, they skate hard and then they come off, and unlike last year's fourth line I don't spend their entire shift worried that they're about to give up a goal or take a hooking penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I agree. Moen is great on the fourth line in that they also never seem to be overmatched or on their heals during the game when he's out there. They go out, they skate hard and then they come off, and unlike last year's fourth line I don't spend their entire shift worried that they're about to give up a goal or take a hooking penalty. Yep. Moen is meant for that role at this point in the season. Go out, no penalties, skate hard, get off. And he does it well, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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