BeanCountingHab Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Don't be so quick to get rid of the captain, folks. Why not? All he's doing is provide the usual 27-28 goal pace he's played at over his entire contract here while bringing solid defensive play against tough matchups. Isn't he an obvious buyout candidate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Why not? All he's doing is provide the usual 27-28 goal pace he's played at over his entire contract here while bringing solid defensive play against tough matchups. Isn't he an obvious buyout candidate? It's tempting, but I'd still rather use our last compliance buyout on Price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 It's tempting, but I'd still rather use our last compliance buyout on Price. Oh man.....don't we have enough cans of worms open at one time as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepingminotaur Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 It's tempting, but I'd still rather use our last compliance buyout on Price. I thought we were trading Price for Luongo and a 6th-rounder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Don't be so quick to get rid of the captain, folks. Exactly. Even though his play is bound to slide a little, his contract isnt hideous & he brings a lot to the table. I can absolutely live with one contract like his now that we've shed several of the worse ones on this squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeanCountingHab Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 It's tempting, but I'd still rather use our last compliance buyout on Price. Good call, saves more $$$ for free agents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I'm kind of irritated watching him take so many slapshots from 40 - 50 feet out with no one in front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerplay2009 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I'm kind of irritated watching him take so many slapshots from 40 - 50 feet out with no one in front. I was gonna say the same thing. A couple gave decent rebounds, but on the whole its just like the definition of insanity to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I was gonna say the same thing. A couple gave decent rebounds, but on the whole its just like the definition of insanity to me. I think I've maybe seen him score once on these attempts... And he's good for at least one of 'em every game. I don't quite understand why he does it so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerplay2009 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I think I've maybe seen him score once on these attempts... And he's good for at least one of 'em every game. I don't quite understand why he does it so often. Those one or two times a game, I find, are usually when his line has to change, and then taking a long shot makes sense. Why not keep the goalie on his toes and get lucky every once in a while? The problem to me is that he seems to do it more often in games against bigger defenseman like Boston and Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeanCountingHab Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Those one or two times a game, I find, are usually when his line has to change, and then taking a long shot makes sense. Why not keep the goalie on his toes and get lucky every once in a while? The problem to me is that he seems to do it more often in games against bigger defenseman like Boston and Toronto. Ya, I find he actually does it at pretty smart times for the most part. If the pass isn't there, rather then leaving it in the corner or turning it over, I'd rather see him take a shot to try for a rebound, force a faceoff, or when he's lucky a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn1990 Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 1 goal in his last six and 2 in his last 13. Needs to get it going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kordic71 Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Maybe he could do more with less. drop him to the 3rd line. put B.Gally with Plecks and put Ryder with DD. Gionta is getting older and he's small so maybe he could use a bit of a rest and refill the tank. Worth a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montreal961 Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Uhhhg I'm getting sick of Gionta. He hasn't done jack lately, and by lately I mean 20 games. This season he's successfully made it on my list of "get off the ice" players, along with Desharnais and Moen. Can't wait to have the 5 million dollars in cap space back after next season. #Frustrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kordic71 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Well I think he brings more than just goals and we could just cut his TOI for a bit and see if that helps. Like I said before, maybe putting him with two bigger guys like Eller and A.Gally might help him as well. I don't think we need to get rid of him just because he's in a bit of a slump. He's still trying, when he completely gives up like Cammi did or becomes as useless as Moen has, then I'm all for getting rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Well I think he brings more than just goals and we could just cut his TOI for a bit and see if that helps. Like I said before, maybe putting him with two bigger guys like Eller and A.Gally might help him as well. I don't think we need to get rid of him just because he's in a bit of a slump. He's still trying, when he completely gives up like Cammi did or becomes as useless as Moen has, then I'm all for getting rid of him. I've been arguing for Eller and Gionta as a combo all season (and last season too). I think they would complement each other well, both playing a hard-nosed possession game and getting pucks on net. Using those two with Galchenyuk gives us a respectable second line that can play both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kordic71 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 I agree but it seems MT's idea of changing things up is moving Bourque from the 3rd line to the 1st. I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 I agree but it seems MT's idea of changing things up is moving Bourque from the 3rd line to the 1st. I don't get it. Yup. Not sure why the concept of line juggling has to be limited to changing the 1st and 3rd lines while leaving the DD line intact. The DD line is the one that needs to be changed the most, in my opinion. And seeing as I'd like to keep the smaller guys (DD, BG11, BG21) separated, I think Gionta with Eller makes a great match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kordic71 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Exactly!! I'd like to see Patches-DD-Ryder, Bourque-Pleks-B.Gally,A.Gally-Eller-Gionta. Spreads them all out and maybe sparks everyone. What could it hurt to try at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captkrunch-mtl Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Gionta has totally been the invisable man this last little while. Even on the PP all he does is stand at the side of the net, NEVER in front of the goalie and hopes for the best. You think the play of Gallager would inspire him and some of the other players but I guess not. Really bothers me seeing him do nothing especially with the "C" on his jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 I have been a harsh critic of Gionta at times too. But at least he does play sound defensive hockey even when he's slumping. I do wish he'd pick up a few goals to end the season, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montreal961 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 If Gionta has a cap hit of around 3 million, I wouldn't be so hard on him. I actually wouldn't mind him, but a 5 million cap hit for a few goals, dwindling production, and a defensive game? Very frustrating seeing him in the top 6 night after night when he hasn't really done much this season. I know he's our captain, but I honestly feel no connection to him as our leader. He was honestly just made the captain of our team because he was the best candidate in a pool of not so great candidates. Like I have said a million times this year, Guys like Eller and AGally deserve to be in the top 6 much more, because they bring a much better offensive game with bigger bodies. Sure he was valuable to us in past seasons, and he does still bring some intangibles to the table but we just have better and younger options right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee-X Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 If Gionta has a cap hit of around 3 million, I wouldn't be so hard on him. I actually wouldn't mind him, but a 5 million cap hit for a few goals, dwindling production, and a defensive game? Very frustrating seeing him in the top 6 night after night when he hasn't really done much this season. I know he's our captain, but I honestly feel no connection to him as our leader. He was honestly just made the captain of our team because he was the best candidate in a pool of not so great candidates. Like I have said a million times this year, Guys like Eller and AGally deserve to be in the top 6 much more, because they bring a much better offensive game with bigger bodies. Sure he was valuable to us in past seasons, and he does still bring some intangibles to the table but we just have better and younger options right now. If it's just Gionta's cap hit that's bothering you, I wouldn't let it worry you this year. We've got some free cap space already, so I can't imagine that the extra $2M we'd have if Gionta had a lower contract would have really done much to better the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerplay2009 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 With 12 goals in 43 games, he is on pace for a 22-26 goal season if we played 82 games. That's only 4 or 5 less goals than he normally gets. He is playing great defensively with Tomas, so I don't get the problem. Natural career regression if you ask me. We knew what we were in for the last 2 years of his contract a while ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kordic71 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Exactly. He's still good defensively, adds a few points and his passed on knowledge to the younger guys is invaluable. As he ages and his play regresses we can cut his TOI accordingly, but he is far from useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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