THEBIGGESTHABSFAN123 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Unless possibly someone else sits out (White, Moen, Armstrong?) and Eller centers the 4th line perhaps. I doubt it, and I don't want it either. Now that Pacman is injured Eller will be in the top nine(probably in Pacman's place). I don't think we should overvalue Blunden, I like our 4th line the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 I doubt it, and I don't want it either. Now that Pacman is injured Eller will be in the top nine(probably in Pacman's place). I don't think we should overvalue Blunden, I like our 4th line the way it is. Overvalue? He may not be as good a fighter as White, but IMO he is the better player with more speed and greater size. He has also shown he can score as well as any of the 4th liners (perhaps moreso). Being a right-hand shot remains an asset as well. As much as White he can play center as well from past experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBIGGESTHABSFAN123 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Overvalue? He may not be as good a fighter as White, but IMO he is the better player with more speed and greater size. He has also shown he can score as well as any of the 4th liners (perhaps moreso). Being a right-hand shot remains an asset as well. As much as White he can play center as well from past experience. White had 3 points in 20 games last year and Blunden had 4 in almost twice as many games(39). White had 5 points in 27 games the year before, while Blunden only played 1 NHL game that year. Blunden is 26 and White is 24 so White has more room for improvement. Blunden may be bigger but I'll argue that White plays bigger. Scoring as well as any other of the 4th liners? I disagree. I actually think Blunden might be better at scoring than White but the statement you said is something I don't agree with. He scored 2 with us last year and has 4 in 90 NHL games. But now let's look at our other 4th liners. Moen had 9 goals in 48 games for us last year and in his career he has 52 in 573 games. Armstrong has 87 in 442 games. Moen and Armstrong are both a lot better defensively and so I will be very surprised if Blunden plays over them. Blunden has 8 points in 90 games while White has 10 in 66. They're both okay defensively, but overall White is the better player and not just in dropping the gloves, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 White had 3 points in 20 games last year and Blunden had 4 in almost twice as many games(39). White had 5 points in 27 games the year before, while Blunden only played 1 NHL game that year. Blunden is 26 and White is 24 so White has more room for improvement. Blunden may be bigger but I'll argue that White plays bigger. Scoring as well as any other of the 4th liners? I disagree. I actually think Blunden might be better at scoring than White but the statement you said is something I don't agree with. He scored 2 with us last year and has 4 in 90 NHL games. But now let's look at our other 4th liners. Moen had 9 goals in 48 games for us last year and in his career he has 52 in 573 games. Armstrong has 87 in 442 games. Moen and Armstrong are both a lot better defensively and so I will be very surprised if Blunden plays over them. Blunden has 8 points in 90 games while White has 10 in 66. They're both okay defensively, but overall White is the better player and not just in dropping the gloves, IMO. Good information... but how does that look in terms of actual ice-time vs. games played as well as some other factors regarding who each has played with and against who? I only go on a gut feeling when I've seen each player actually play and how each player can compliment the team overall. I may be very wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBIGGESTHABSFAN123 Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Good information... but how does that look in terms of actual ice-time vs. games played as well as some other factors regarding who each has played with and against who? I only go on a gut feeling when I've seen each player actually play and how each player can compliment the team overall. I may be very wrong. Honestly, I'm not sure how much ice-time and what kind of linemates they get and who plays against tougher opposition, but I would think that both of them get 4th line linemates against 4th liners and 4th line ice time...2 years ago I remember White on a 3rd line with Pouliot and DD(who seemed to have chemistry)and that might have been a reason for his points that year(was a carreer year for him). And I also remember last year when Pleks was getting all kinds of linemates, Blunden was on his line for a fair amount of games. Other than this I don't really remember much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Honestly, I'm not sure how much ice-time and what kind of linemates they get and who plays against tougher opposition, but I would think that both of them get 4th line linemates against 4th liners and 4th line ice time...2 years ago I remember White on a 3rd line with Pouliot and DD(who seemed to have chemistry)and that might have been a reason for his points that year(was a carreer year for him). And I also remember last year when Pleks was getting all kinds of linemates, Blunden was on his line for a fair amount of games. Other than this I don't really remember much... Don't get me wrong, I like White alot. But I like what I see as potential with Blunden given a real opportunity for an entire season. Both in the line-up would be better still I guess, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBIGGESTHABSFAN123 Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Don't get me wrong, I like White alot. But I like what I see as potential with Blunden given a real opportunity for an entire season. Both in the line-up would be better still I guess, Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Send White down and bring this guy back. But play him this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBIGGESTHABSFAN123 Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Send White down and bring this guy back. But play him this time. I'd rather Dumont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I'd rather Dumont. 5'9" 170LBS. Just what the Habs needed tonight against the Leafs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbaker8787 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 5'9" 170LBS. Just what the Habs needed tonight against the Leafs. If we use the leafs motto we'd need John Scott, George Parros, a couple AHL goons, Stortini maybe and don't forget, Tyson for his biting expertise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 The bottom line when we're talking about whether to call up Blunden or Dumont is that neither one of them is going to alter the course of the Habs season all that much. We're talking about role players here, and the Habs have those in abundance already with Armstrong, Prust, White, Noke, Moen, etc. The team doesn't need to swap White for Blunden or Armstrong for Dumont, it needs to get its top line players playing better hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBIGGESTHABSFAN123 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 5'9" 170LBS. Just what the Habs needed tonight against the Leafs. He plays bigger than he is and he is Hamilton's best player, a lot better than Blunden, the way he's playing he deserves a chance. Being bigger isn't everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regis2 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 The bottom line when we're talking about whether to call up Blunden or Dumont is that neither one of them is going to alter the course of the Habs season all that much. We're talking about role players here, and the Habs have those in abundance already with Armstrong, Prust, White, Noke, Moen, etc. The team doesn't need to swap White for Blunden or Armstrong for Dumont, it needs to get its top line players playing better hockey. I would argue that Armstrong and Noke serve no role The Armstrong signing ( remember low risk / high reward ) - after 11 games, other than being a good guy in the dressing room what has he done . And Noke .....wasn't he one of those dumb PG trades . Enquist wasn't working out as 3rd lien centre , so let's pick up Blair Betts from Philly , only to find out he was injured . SO lets trade for Noke ...........Who ? Sometimes it's Better to bite the bullet and let some young guy play and see if he has any chacne of maikng the NHL than signing or trading for players who are just taking up a salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I would argue that Armstrong and Noke serve no role The Armstrong signing ( remember low risk / high reward ) - after 11 games, other than being a good guy in the dressing room what has he done . And Noke .....wasn't he one of those dumb PG trades . Enquist wasn't working out as 3rd lien centre , so let's pick up Blair Betts from Philly , only to find out he was injured . SO lets trade for Noke ...........Who ? Sometimes it's Better to bite the bullet and let some young guy play and see if he has any chacne of maikng the NHL than signing or trading for players who are just taking up a salary Right-on! I didn't see the reason to sign Armstrong and would have preferred to see if Blunden could add a new dimension to the mix for the Habs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatethosebruins Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I would argue that Armstrong and Noke serve no role The Armstrong signing ( remember low risk / high reward ) - after 11 games, other than being a good guy in the dressing room what has he done . And Noke .....wasn't he one of those dumb PG trades . Enquist wasn't working out as 3rd lien centre , so let's pick up Blair Betts from Philly , only to find out he was injured . SO lets trade for Noke ...........Who ? Sometimes it's Better to bite the bullet and let some young guy play and see if he has any chacne of maikng the NHL than signing or trading for players who are just taking up a salary Yeah I kinda wished the habs left Engqvist up even though he was invisible in alot of games. I think it was just a trade to show he was trying to keep us in the playoff hunt early in the year. Trading a prospect for a role player doesnt and obviously didn't keep us in the hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Yeah I kinda wished the habs left Engqvist up even though he was invisible in alot of games. I think it was just a trade to show he was trying to keep us in the playoff hunt early in the year. Trading a prospect for a role player doesnt and obviously didn't keep us in the hunt. In his defense, it's not like Enquist has amounted to much. We got a fringe NHLer with experience to centre our 4th line, we lost a prospect who wasn't going anywhere in the organization. Nokie never was the offensive player they though he'd become. If anything, he gives us depth, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatethosebruins Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 In his defense, it's not like Enquist has amounted to much. We got a fringe NHLer with experience to centre our 4th line, we lost a prospect who wasn't going anywhere in the organization. Nokie never was the offensive player they though he'd become. If anything, he gives us depth, nothing more. WE moved brock trotter for Noke. Engqvist hasn't done much but I think if we gave him more of a chance it could have helped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Sometimes it's Better to bite the bullet and let some young guy play and see if he has any chacne of maikng the NHL than signing or trading for players who are just taking up a salary I think you need a mix of vets and youngsters, but I generally agree with the philosophy you presented. I don't see much point in going after a guy like Nokelainen when you can use Dumont. I don't see the point in using Armstrong when you have Blunden, White, or Leblanc. In any case, all these guys are being cheaply-paid and are short-term solutions. I doubt we'll see Colby here for more than a year or two. As far as Blunden goes though, he's actually born in 1986, which makes him older than White and the same age as Nokelainen. He's younger than Armstrong and only a touch younger than Prust. In the end, Blunden's as good as any of Armstrong, White, or Noke, but none of them are particularly attractive options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamez74 Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Called up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Saw that on twitter. Still looking for official confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 If they called up blunden, would that mean they're send Dumont back down or sitting one of our 4th liners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Confirmed by RDS. Taking Ryder's spot who apparently is injured (lower body) and not going to Jersey. http://www.rds.ca/hockey/canadiens/ryder-bless%C3%A9-blunden-rappel%C3%A9-1.596641 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Confirmed by RDS. Taking Ryder's spot who apparently is injured (lower body) and not going to Jersey. http://www.rds.ca/hockey/canadiens/ryder-bless%C3%A9-blunden-rappel%C3%A9-1.596641 Terrific,,just terrific,,,,,,another injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Confirmed by RDS. Taking Ryder's spot who apparently is injured (lower body) and not going to Jersey. http://www.rds.ca/hockey/canadiens/ryder-bless%C3%A9-blunden-rappel%C3%A9-1.596641 After missing parts of last game I'm not surprised. I was hoping it was something minor and wouldn't miss too much time. So, blunden obviously won't be playing next to pleks. That means Moen's probably taking ryder's spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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