Guest Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 A shortened season means a shortened Magic Number (MN). Let's all hope this doesn't turn into another lottery thread like it did last season. WHAT IS THE MN ( MAGIC NUMBER) The MN is a mathematical calculation of how many points are required by the Habs to be GUARANTEED a playoff position. HOW DOES IT WORK The starting number is 97. This number is based on 48 games at 2 points each for a total of 96. We must add another point as the tie breaker thus totaling 97. This number is reduced by 2 points for every regulation, overtime or shootout VICTORY by the Habs. Its reduced by 1 point for every overtime or shootout loss by the Habs ( considered a TIE). The number can also be reduced by what we call BONUS POINTS. These occur whenever the team(s) in 9th place loses points ( it reduces our number by 2 for each regulation loss and 1 for OT or SO loss) whether or not the Habs are playing on that day. NOTE: not all teams will have played an equal amount of games on any given point of the season therefore calculations are based on net losses. OTHER MN NUMBERS Here are a few additional numbers that will pop up in the conversation on occasion, just for fun, if you happen to be a math geek. MN EPD ( Estimated Party Date )NUMBER This number is a prediction of when the MN will hit 0 based on current pace of points accumulated to date,,, and the maintaining of that pace going forward. MN HOME ICE, DIVISION & CONFERENCE NUMBERS Same principle is applied as the regular MN number. When these numbers hit 0 then we have clinched that honour. MN T.O. NO GO NUMBER A different twist to this number. When it reaches 0 then the LEAFS are officially ELIMINATED from the playoffs. The same principle can be applied for any other team you may hate. Make a request and we will calculate it here. NOTE: Flying_Lion has agreed to calculate the math for us, therefore if you are not inclined to attempt figuring it out on your own, then just sit back and enjoy the ride. Other members have pitched in with the calculations in the past, and are more then welcome to do so again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs-24 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Nice to see this thread live on through the years, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee-X Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Nice to see this thread live on through the years, Yes indeed, and it's nice to see such a small MN already . A good run of a few games or two will be all it takes to make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Yes indeed, and it's nice to see such a small MN already . A good run of a few games or two will be all it takes to make the playoffs. Yes it's like the Habs have already tore through half of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee-X Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 It's a little weird this year with no out of conference games - a loss for one team on the MN tables is always going to be a win for another. That makes tonight even weirder for the MN. I'll leave the official word with our official math wiz Lion, but at first glance it seems that the Habs will make their own luck tonight. If they lose there are no bonuses and the MN stays the same at 97. If they win we get a single bonus and the MN goes to 94 (or potentially 93 if every single game ends in regulation). So for probably the only time all year when it's a Habs game day, there's no chance at all of 1 or 2 point MN movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying_Lion Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Sorry I'm late, gang. Happy new season to you all. Nothing like a good MN reset to fuel the flames of hope. It's a little weird this year with no out of conference games - a loss for one team on the MN tables is always going to be a win for another. That makes tonight even weirder for the MN. I'll leave the official word with our official math wiz Lion, but at first glance it seems that the Habs will make their own luck tonight. If they lose there are no bonuses and the MN stays the same at 97. If they win we get a single bonus and the MN goes to 94 (or potentially 93 if every single game ends in regulation). So for probably the only time all year when it's a Habs game day, there's no chance at all of 1 or 2 point MN movement. I was thinking along similar lines with respect to the lack of cross-conference games. Every game counts. Every point counts. It'll be interesting. I wasn't sure there was a Bonus on the table tonight. I'm no math wiz, please. It's just a glorified spreadsheet. Besides, I'm relying on you to vet my numbers. Speaking of spreadsheets, this is pretty much what we'll be looking at for the next few months .... MN is 97. ... The plus to the abbreviated season is that we're probably already ahead of the countdown than this time last year. I think I was already working on the MN Lotto #. Hopefully we won't be dancing to that song this year. GO HABS GO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Awesome work already FL and i concur,,,,,NO LOTTERY THREAD, please hockey gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 It's a little weird this year with no out of conference games - a loss for one team on the MN tables is always going to be a win for another. That makes tonight even weirder for the MN. I'll leave the official word with our official math wiz Lion, but at first glance it seems that the Habs will make their own luck tonight. If they lose there are no bonuses and the MN stays the same at 97. If they win we get a single bonus and the MN goes to 94 (or potentially 93 if every single game ends in regulation). So for probably the only time all year when it's a Habs game day, there's no chance at all of 1 or 2 point MN movement. Does the fact that one team in the East (Sabres) not in action tonight guarantee we can't get 2 bonus points today Manatee??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee-X Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Does the fact that one team in the East (Sabres) not in action tonight guarantee we can't get 2 bonus points today Manatee??? Nope! Because every other team in the East will either win or lose, Buffalo will be the 8th place team on the NL standings no matter what. If we lose then the 8th place team is the one we need to get ahead of - they won't lose since they don't play, so if we lose there's no bonuses no matter what. If we win, however, we'll be in the top half of the standings and it's the 9th place team that we have to worry about. Since the 9th place will have just lost their game no matter what, we're guaranteed a bonus! If every game ends in regulation we can even get two bonuses. So basically our only options tonight are 0, 3 or 4 points. Like I said, it's a weird one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Nope! Because every other team in the East will either win or lose, Buffalo will be the 8th place team on the NL standings no matter what. If we lose then the 8th place team is the one we need to get ahead of - they won't lose since they don't play, so if we lose there's no bonuses no matter what. If we win, however, we'll be in the top half of the standings and it's the 9th place team that we have to worry about. Since the 9th place will have just lost their game no matter what, we're guaranteed a bonus! If every game ends in regulation we can even get two bonuses. So basically our only options tonight are 0, 3 or 4 points. Like I said, it's a weird one! Makes sense now. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 ZIP ZILCH NADA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying_Lion Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 ZIP ZILCH NADA. Indeed. MN is 97. 2 bonus points up for grabs today. A Buffalo loss to Philadelphia in regulation gets us both, an extra time loss only 1. A Sabres victory doesn't help at all. NL Standings ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying_Lion Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 A resounding thanks to the Flyers for absolutely nothing. MN idles at 97. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying_Lion Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Looking pretty good for Bonus Points today. Losses to Boston, Tampa Bay, Buffalo, Florida, Toronto, or Ottawa will knock a couple of points off. Seeing as how 4 of those teams are facing off against each other, odds are in our favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying_Lion Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Sah-weet! Movement! MN is 95. Of course, all the bonus points in the world won't get us to the dance. We need a nice W tomorrow to keep the pace at 2.0 (or above). I'll try to post the updated Net Loss standings as early as I can tomorrow, after all of tonight's games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Would have preferred the first drop to happen with a win, but beggars can't be choosers i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 I'll take it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying_Lion Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Old Man Winter just delivered a snow day, otherwise I wouldn't be at this so early. Photobucket is driving me nuts. Any suggestions as to a better, more convenient site to use for posting pics here? Anyway, I digress. MN is 95. I'm pretty sure there are no bonus points available. It's still so jumbled that it's tough to get a grip on all the permutations and combinations. Better minds than mine can enlighten us if I'm wrong. Updated Net Loss standings ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs-24 Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Looking pretty good for Bonus Points today. Losses to Boston, Tampa Bay, Buffalo, Florida, Toronto, or Ottawa will knock a couple of points off. Seeing as how 4 of those teams are facing off against each other, odds are in our favour. You would have to think lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 First win. Move those yardsticks. Oops,,,,forgot the lockout was over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee-X Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 And we're on the move, this time for the right reasons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying_Lion Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 First win. Move those yardsticks. Oops,,,,forgot the lockout was over. Yardsticks moved. MN is 93. Only 1 bonus point for tomorrow but it will hopefully come with any type of Leafs loss, regulation or extra time, to the Penguins. I'll try get the NL board up before tomorrow's games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Only 1 bonus point for tomorrow but it will hopefully come with any type of Leafs loss, regulation or extra time, to the Penguins. So,,,,it's a gimmee then? Might as well change it now. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying_Lion Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Net Loss standings prior to tonight's games ... As mentioned above: 1 bonus point up for grabs and Toronto can give it to us by losing in any fashion to Pittsburgh tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeanCountingHab Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 I'd personally prefer the regulation loss so I can watch us leap frog them in the actual standings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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