BigTed3 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 We've seen Alex Burrows get off for allegedly biting Patrice Bergeron, but in that case, we lacked video evidence of a biting action and Bergeron was the one who was deliberately trying to provoke Burrows. In this case, Grabovski can clearly be seen biting down on Pacioretty's forearm. So is it suspension-worthy or is being tossed out of the game enough? Is this worse than a hit from behind or a head shot? How many games should Grabovski get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColRouleBleu Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I voted none. I think he may be fined though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted February 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Questions, remember, is how many games you think he should get and not how many games you expect him to get. You can weight in as if you are Brendan Shanahan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerplay2009 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Went with 1 game. I think Burrows should have gotten one, but given the scenarios around the Burrows incident, it easier to see no suspension. No idea what Shanny will give him. First non hit to the head incident he has had to deal with IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js2 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I said none because it's impossible to see any kind of biting since Pacioretty decided to put his arm around Grabovsky's face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbaker8787 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 You may not have seen the bite but a player doesn't react in such a manner like what Pacioretty did if it didn't happen I'm sure the linesman that escorted him to the bench could see his arm if there was any evidence of a bite. I don't think the severity of bite should matter, if intent was there thats all that should matter, it doesn't belong in the game. I said he should deserve 5-10 if there's enough evidence, suspensions shouldn't be pro-rated because of shortened season. Because he's a leaf he'll get a Medal of Honor..uhhh I mean a 1000 dollar fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted February 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I'm personally settling in the 15-20 game range. When a guy hits a guy from behind, a lot of times it's a reckless hit, but it's not something that's pre-meditated (Chara hit on Pacioretty aside). You need to punish a guy to make him think twice about being reckless, and a lot of times, I feel like the punishments are not severe enough to pass that message along. But when it comes to something like biting, it has no place in the game. There's nothing you can say you were trying to do that was a hockey play that in any way makes it defensible. In addition to being dirty, it also puts the guy being bitten at risk of infections. So to me, although the end result may not be as bad as a cheapshot hit, the motivation and action itself are worse. Grabovski has a history of being an agitator and he's thrown some questionable hits himself in the past. He needs to be taught that this can't happen, which is the main message behind any suspension. If you watch the video, you can see Pacman's arm around his neck, you can see Grabovski lean down and put his mouth on the arm, and you can see Pacman recoil and check his wrist. Can you actually see Grabovski's teeth? No. But to me, there is plenty of evidence to show he bit him, and that needs to be reprimanded not with a 1-game suspension but with a stern warning to everyone in the league that this has no place in the game. 15-20 games to teach him a lesson he deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regis2 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 . 15-20 games to teach him a lesson he deserves. It may be what YOU would like see happened , considering the HABS got their behinds handed to them last night But no way will the league suspend him for that amount of games. I'd be suprised if he gets anyhting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I'll guess one to two games for a 1st offense. Unless the League plans on sending a message against this type of behavior, i doubt it will be more. We all know the League frowns on sending messages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 5 - 10. Biting someone is dirty and despicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted February 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Leafs' coach Randy Carlyle told the media today he thought Pacioretty should have had a hearing with the league in addition to Grabovski... for yelling at the refs. Yes, Randy, because yelling at the refs after someone bites you and it doesn't get penalized is a suspendable offence. What a farce for an idiot like Carlyle to even bring something like that up. Carlyle added that you can't suspend someone without conclusive evidence, so I guess the video of Grabovski with his mouth on Pacioretty's forearm AND the pictures the Habs sent in to the league of the bitemarks in his arm were not enough. The Habs were 100% beaten down by the Leafs last night, no question about that. Carlyle can take all the credit he wants for that. But don't try to pretend that biting is acceptable and don't try to pretend that your guy is innocent while the guy who complains about it should be under review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percent Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 I would give him 1-2 games. Regardless of the situation, biting has no place in Hockey. Knowing the league, however, he probably won't get anything. Maybe a fine.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBIGGESTHABSFAN123 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 He should get 5-10 but he'll probably get 1 or 2, maybe just a fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 His hearing was done by phone and those usually result in a very light sentence, fine or nothing at all. Don't expect much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regis2 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 ........, fine or nothing at all. Don't expect much. Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 He got zip. Can't say i'm surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 i forgot the POTW was up ,,,,but I would have voted 1-2 games (that's the minimum he should have gotten). As usual, NHL messed up again, basically saying that evidence is not worth anything. I doubt if shanahan even looked at the video or pics,,,or read the refs report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm not stunned at all by another one of Shanahan's bogus decisions because it fits with his entire persona of pulling rulings out of his you-know-what: we can't suspend Chara because we have no proof of his intent to injure Pacioretty; we can't suspend Lucic for running over Miller but we'll make sure the next guy gets suspended if he does the exact same thing; we won't suspend Ryan Malone because Campoli's head twitched a bit before the hit, but we will suspend Pacioretty for a similar hit on Letang because Letang's head moved 3.2 degrees less; now we won't suspend Grabovski because we can't see what goes on in his mouth, even though we have video of his lips on Pacman's arm, video of Pacman's reaction, and a picture of bitemarks in Pacman's arm. Does Shanahan think Pacioretty bit his own arm to try and draw a suspension? Does he think he got a tetanus shot to try and back up a make-believe story? As I've said, I'd like to see Shanahan take a headshot into a stanchion or a bite to the forearm and see how he reacts? The law is built around circumstantial evidence because very few crimes come with video evidence. In this case, we have partial video evidence and there's still a made-up excuse as to why we can't suspend a guy who runs around doing things like this all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I won't lose sleep over him not getting a suspension. Would have been nice had he received a small fine, so that it was at the very least in his record. If ever he does it again then he would be punished as a repeat offender. I guess we just expect too much of the NHL. When will we ever learn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I won't lose sleep over him not getting a suspension. Would have been nice had he received a small fine, so that it was at the very least in his record. If ever he does it again then he would be punished as a repeat offender. I guess we just expect too much of the NHL. When will we ever learn? To me, this is a problem: fans becoming complacent and accepting sub-standard officiating and league management. Nothing will change so long as everyone just writes it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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