2013 UFA's

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Partial list of the more prominent UFA's available this summer as per Cap Geek

Stats Leaders Name Pos Age Team GP G A P PIM +/- TOI-TOT Ribeiro, Mike » C 33 WAS 48 13 36 49 53 -4 17.83 Dupuis, Pascal » R 34 PIT 48 20 18 38 26 31 17.51 Elias, Patrik » C 37 NJD 48 14 22 36 22 5 18.72 Jagr, Jaromir » R 41 BOS 45 16 19 35 22 -2 18.33 Ryder, Michael » R 33 MTL 46 16 19 35 16 2 16.05 Boyes, Brad » R 31 NYI 48 10 25 35 16 -6 18.21 Iginla, Jarome » R 35 PIT 44 14 19 33 31 -5 18.81 Prospal, Vinny » L 38 CLB 48 12 18 30 32 3 16.53 Bozak, Tyler » C 27 TOR 46 12 16 28 6 -1 20.31 Roy, Derek » C 30 VAN 42 7 21 28 6 4 18.59 Koivu, Saku » C 38 ANA 47 8 19 27 18 4 17.60 Cullen, Matt » C 36 MIN 42 7 20 27 10 9 15.89 Streit, Mark » D 35 NYI 48 6 21 27 22 -14 23.35 Brunner, Damien » R 27 DET 44 12 14 26 12 -6 15.59 Alfredsson, D. » R 40 OTT 47 10 16 26 33 1 19.35 Morrow, Brenden » L 34 PIT 44 12 13 25 37 -3 14.86 Clarkson, David » R 29 NJD 48 15 9 24 78 -6 17.59 Selanne, Teemu » R 42 ANA 46 12 12 24 28 -10 15.69 Stalberg, Viktor » L 27 CHI 47 9 14 23 25 16 14.12 Bickell, Bryan » L 27 CHI 48 9 14 23 25 12 12.81 Horton, Nathan » R 28 BOS 43 13 9 22 22 1 16.86 Raymond, Mason » L 27 VAN 46 10 12 22 16 2 15.82 Cooke, Matt » L 34 PIT 48 8 13 21 36 -2 14.71 MacArthur, Clarke » L 28 TOR 40 8 12 20 26 3 14.91 Bouchard, P. » R 29 MIN 43 8 12 20 8 3 13.94 Zidlicky, Marek » D 36 NJD 48 4 15 19 38 -12 20.99 Clowe, Ryane » L 30 NYR 40 3 16 19 93 1 16.63 Torres, Raffi » L 31 SJS 39 7 11 18 17 0 13.27 Antropov, Nik » C 33 WPG 40 6 12 18 16 6 15.96 Filppula, V. » L 29 DET 41 9 8 17 6 -4 17.78 Sullivan, Steve » L 38 NJD 42 7 10 17 24 -12 14.55 Corvo, Joe » D 35 CAR 40 6 11 17 14 -3 18.76 Gagne, Simon » L 33 PHI 38 5 11 16 8 -1 14.14 Clitsome, Grant » D 28 WPG 44 4 12 16 18 10 18.84 Cleary, Danny » L 34 DET 48 9 6 15 40 -6 16.44 Wellwood, Kyle » C 30 WPG 39 6 9 15 2 0 12.98 Gomez, Scott » C 33 SJS 39 2 13 15 22 -10 13.53 Chipchura, Kyle » C 27 PHX 46 5 9 14 50 1 9.70 Hecht, Jochen » C 35 BUF 47 5 9 14 18 6 13.70 Gordon, Boyd » C 29 PHX 48 4 10 14 8 0 15.01 Penner, Dustin » L 30 LAK 33 2 12 14 18 -2 12.70 Whitney, Ryan » D 30 EDM 34 4 9 13 23 -7 18.48 Fedotenko, Ruslan » L 34 PHI 47 4 9 13 12 8 12.57 Ference, Andrew » D 34 BOS 48 4 9 13 35 9 19.49 Hainsey, Ron » D 32 WPG 47 0 13 13 10 -8 22.86 Aucoin, Keith » C 34 NYI 41 6 6 12 4 -1 12.49 Comeau, Blake » L 27 CLB 42 6 6 12 20 -4 12.16 Scuderi, Rob » D 34 LAK 48 1 11 12 4 -6 21.79 Rozsival, Michal » D 34 CHI 27 0 12 12 14 18 18.11 Nystrom, Eric » L 30 DAL 48 7 4 11 61 -3 14.35 Hejduk, Milan » R 37 COL 29 4 7 11 0 -7 13.14 Latendresse, G. » L 26 OTT 27 6 4 10 8 -2 14.80 Lapierre, Maxim » C 28 VAN 48 4 6 10 45 -6 12.60 Benoit, Andre » D 29 OTT 33 3 7 10 8 -3 16.42 Leopold, Jordan » D 32 STL 39 2 8 10 14 -8 20.07 Lovejoy, Ben » D 29 ANA 35 0 10 10 29 4 17.83 Kobasew, Chuck » R 31 COL 37 5 4 9 21 6 11.27 Ponikarovsky, A. » L 33 NJD 42 4 5 9 14 -1 13.16 Petrell, Lennart » L 29 EDM 35 3 6 9 4 -4 11.53 Adams, Craig » C 36 PIT 48 3 6 9 28 -1 11.16 Zubrus, Dainius » C 34 NJD 22 2 7 9 12 -3 16.78 Bergeron, M. » D 32 CAR 25 1 8 9 9 -4 13.77 Hendricks, Matt » L 31 WAS 48 5 3 8 73 -6 11.72 Knuble, Mike » R 40 PHI 28 4 4 8 20 -4 12.92 Lombardi, Matthew » C 31 ANA 28 4 4 8 8 -2 13.96 Begin, Steve » L 34 CGY 36 4 4 8 22 -2 7.99 Miller, Drew » L 29 DET 44 4 4 8 2 -8 13.82 Yip, Brandon » R 28 NAS 34 3 5 8 26 -3 12.04 Handzus, Michal » C 36 CHI 39 2 6 8 16 -2 13.13 Kostka, Mike » D 27 TOR 35 0 8 8 27 -7 22.08 Redden, Wade » D 35 BOS 29 3 4 7 11 -2 15.07 Jones, Ryan » R 28 EDM 27 2 5 7 17 0 12.98 Drewiske, Davis » D 28 MTL 29 2 5 7 14 3 15.20 Steckel, David » C 31 ANA 34 1 6 7 4 0 9.27 Johnson, Nick » R 27 PHX 17 4 2 6 0 3 9.96 Smithson, Jerred » C 34 EDM 45 3 3 6 12 -4 10.66 Sanguinetti, B. » D 25 CAR 37 2 4 6 4 -6 14.75 O'Byrne, Ryan » D 28 TOR 42 2 4 6 60 -4 18.53 Richardson, Brad » R 28 LAK 16 1 5 6 10 2 10.90 Benn, Jordie » D 25 DAL 26 1 5 6 10 -4 17.32 Ebbett, Andrew » C 30 VAN 28 1 5 6 4 -1 12.32 Murray, Douglas » D 33 PIT 43 1 5 6 35 -9 17.59 Fistric, Mark » D 27 EDM 25 0 6 6 32 6 15.33 Lydman, Toni » D 35 ANA 35 0 6 6 12 -1 19.39 Miettinen, Antti » L 32 WPG 22 3 2 5 2 -3 12.65 Kovalev, Alexei » L 40 FLA 14 2 3 5 6 -1 15.61 Mueller, Chris » C 27 NAS 18 2 3 5 6 -4 10.71 Harrold, Peter » D 30 NJD 23 2 3 5 6 -8 17.63 Armstrong, Colby » R 30 MTL 37 2 3 5 12 1 11.20 Foster, Kurtis » D 31 PHI 23 1 4 5 25 0 13.09 Reasoner, Marty » C 36 NYI 31 0 5 5 4 -3 11.23 Dvorak, Radek » R 36 ANA 9 4 0 4 2 2 13.13 Sulzer, Alexander » D 29 BUF 17 3 1 4 10 3 16.52 White, Ian » D 29 DET 25 2 2 4 4 5 19.58 Santorelli, Mike » C 27 WPG 34 2 2 4 2 -12 11.87 Larose, Chad » R 31 CAR 35 2 2 4 29 -8 12.85 Weiss, Stephen » C 30 FLA 17 1 3 4 25 -13 18.46 Orr, Colton » R 31 TOR 44 1 3 4 155 4 6.39 Pardy, Adam » D 29 BUF 17 0 4 4 14 4 16.51 Aucoin, Adrian » D 39 CLB 36 0 4 4 16 -8 16.33

[C_Cyborg]

If I can...

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3ks1P5PYt0-ZG05bnFtNk1SaUk/edit

[kinot-1]

If I can...

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3ks1P5PYt0-ZG05bnFtNk1SaUk/edit

No,,,, you can't,,,, "Sorry, the file you have requested does not exist."

[C_Cyborg]

What the... ^^

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Here it is !

[Guest]

What the... ^^

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Here it is !

We can scratch Conchar off that list. He just signed a two year deal with Dallas.

[kinot-1]

What the... ^^

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3ks1P5PYt0-ZG05bnFtNk1SaUk/edit?usp=sharing

Here it is !

Thank you,,,

I didn't know Budaj was a UFA.

[Guest]

Thank you,,,

I didn't know Budaj was a UFA.

He's not. We signed him to an extension didn't we??

Just had a look. Signed for the next 2 years at 1.4/ year,, so it appears that list is not current.

[kinot-1]

I think that on that list,,,I would have a look at ,, Damien Brunner 27 Yrs., 44GP,12G, 14A,,,POs,14 GP 5G, 4A, 1.35 mil Det. and Ian White 29 YRs.,,,,stay at home D,, 2.87 mil. That's just so far, as a lot of those UFAs, are big bucks, and in declining years. Personally, I wouldn't look at anyone with a cap hit of 4+ mil.

I "might" want to sign Ryder,,,but I feel that he would want a long term deal.

[Guest]

With the UFA deadline next on team's agendas,,, i thought it was a good time to move this thread to the general discussion lobby.

[KeepsItReal]

THe UFA market is abysmal this year for high end players.

The Habs have lots of cap space, but hopefully they use it to improve the lower line depth...or address a weakness through trade.

I'll cry if they have Horton at 6 years for 6 million a year.

[jennifer_rocket]

THe UFA market is abysmal this year for high end players.

The Habs have lots of cap space, but hopefully they use it to improve the lower line depth...or address a weakness through trade.

I'll cry if they have Horton at 6 years for 6 million a year.

Cry from happiness or sadness?

[KeepsItReal]

Cry from happiness or sadness?

An increasingly injury prone guy who plays a physical style of play and will be 30 years old by the 2nd year of the deal?

Do I even need to clarify?

[jennifer_rocket]

An increasingly injury prone guy who plays a physical style of play and will be 30 years old by the 2nd year of the deal?

Do I even need to clarify?

I didn't realize he was so old. Either way, Horton will get an inflated deal from some team. He's one of the best forwards available and I'm sure he's going to cash in. Personally, I think we'd be better remaining patient and just drafting this year or looking to improve our team via trade. Free agency is not the way to go this summer.

[FirstStar]

An increasingly injury prone guy who plays a physical style of play and will be 30 years old by the 2nd year of the deal?

Do I even need to clarify?

A lot of players are injury prone, it's almost impossible especially in today's NHL, not to find a guy with injury issues. Prust had shoulder issues when we signed him. You want to sign a physical guy, he is going to have his injury issues.

i don't see the issue signing a player to a 4 year deal if his deal ends in his ealry 30's. Even a 6 year deal would bring him to 34, I don't see the issue. If he was already 30 years old and the deal would see him play until 36 or 37, then I'd be a little more apprehensive. But a deal for a great 2-way, physical guy that would lock him up until his mid 30's (33-35), isn't an issue for me.

My only concern with his injuries is concussions. Again, a lot of top line guys have had concussions somewhere in their playing careers. Even Gally-B has a history of concussions but i doubt MB would be reluctant to re-sign the kid if he continues to play the way he is.

Unfortunately in today's NHL injuries are par for the course.

JR, Horton isn't that old, he's in the prime of his career and a 4 year deal would bring him to 32, 6 year deal (a little more reluctant) would end when he's 34. If Horton was already in his 30's, then I'd be a little more reluctant.

At a reasonable price and a fair term (4 year deal), I wouldn't avoid signing him due to injuries.

Like you mentioned JR, he's probably going to be one of the hot names this summer, which means his stock will rise. When healthy he's one of the best all-round players. he plays well in all 3 zones, can kill penalties and can also play on the PP. The injury issue is just a minor inconvenience that a lot of top players have as well.

[KeepsItReal]

Horton is an average defensive player. Nothing special in his own end at all. He's FAR from "one of the best all-round players".

That's the second time I've seen it claimed in here he's one of the best all-round players in the league, does anyone have anything to back those claims up?

He doesn't kill penalties either, maybe he "can" but in the last 3 seasons he's had about 10 minutes of PK times total...so not sure penalty killing should be cited as one of his strengths.

At a reasonable price he would be a good addition, but he won't come at a reasonable price this Summer.

[FirstStar]

Horton is an average defensive player. Nothing special in his own end at all. He's FAR from "one of the best all-round players".

That's the second time I've seen it claimed in here he's one of the best all-round players in the league, does anyone have anything to back those claims up?

He doesn't kill penalties either, maybe he "can" but in the last 3 seasons he's had about 10 minutes of PK times total...so not sure penalty killing should be cited as one of his strengths.

At a reasonable price he would be a good addition, but he won't come at a reasonable price this Summer.

Because boston used him on the PP instead of the PK does not mean he's not a good Pker. just means that boston felt he would help the team on the Pp rather than the PK.

And is there any proof that Pleks is a good defensive player apart from what we as hab fans have witnessed?

there are no real stats to prove a guys worth defensively apart from +/-. He's been in the plus category or 0 since joining the b's. Which means there are less goals scored against when he's on the ice.

i agree, the fact there isn't much available this summer, he'll probably have a healthy pay day. He's one of the bigger names in this seasons FA market.

And stats don't tell the whole story, Pleks is way better than his stats dictate.

[KeepsItReal]

Big difference between calling Plekx a good defensive player and saying he's one of the best all-round players in the league though.

There are plenty of ways to classify a player as a good defensive player, and one would think if someone is going to claim someone is one of the best they'd have a way to back that up...

When I watch Horton I don't see anything impressive, and the fact taht he was drafted and started out as a center and now is a winger makes me quite confident in the belief he's an average defensive player.

[THEBIGGESTHABSFAN123]

Prust had shoulder issues when we signed him.

Actually he had 2 straight 82 game seasons when we signed him.

[FirstStar]

Actually he had 2 straight 82 game seasons when we signed him.

My orignal point stands, he still has shoulder issues and those are known to be reoccuring injuries.

When he went down with the shoulder issue this past season a lot were fearful he was lost for the season due to his previous shoulder issues.

My whole point was that it's very hard to find a top player nowadays without injury issues.

[KeepsItReal]

Actually he had 2 straight 82 game seasons when we signed him.

Horton is also coming off of a relatively healthy season where he performed at a sub 50 point level. He was good in the playoffs, but injuries apparently slowed down his production to zero.

[FirstStar]

Big difference between calling Plekx a good defensive player and saying he's one of the best all-round players in the league though.

There are plenty of ways to classify a player as a good defensive player, and one would think if someone is going to claim someone is one of the best they'd have a way to back that up...

When I watch Horton I don't see anything impressive, and the fact taht he was drafted and started out as a center and now is a winger makes me quite confident in the belief he's an average defensive player.

Patrick Kane is a centreman who is often switched to wing, does that make him any less impressive?

When I watch horton, i see a player who I'd much rather have on my team than as an apponent.

i just brought up his +/- which hasn't gone bellow 0 since joining the b's. I think that alone speaks of a good defensive game.

His +/- wasn't very impressive in Florida, but that's not a knock on him, Florida wasn't a very good team back then. His first season in Boston he was used in both a defensive role and offensive role and he finished the season with a plus 29. Boston has used more in an offensive role over the last 2 seasons. They have a strong team defensively, so they don't have the need of double shifting guys (PP and PK) like we have done with Pleks. With Chara and Siedenburg on their blueline as their shutdown guys, the kelly line and since they don't have any bonified snipers, they chose to put Horton as a PP guy. They have so many good defensive guys that they can afford to keep Horton in an offensive role, but that doesn't mean he isn't good defensively.

Boston's a team who is not known for big blowout scoring games, they only scored 131 GF on the season. Of the top 8 in the east, only 2 teams scored less than boston, Ottawa with 130 (that's without 2 of their top offensive players for most of the season) and the rangers, who were a team in termoil for most of the season. What's impressive in their GA with 109, only one team in the eastern conferences top 8 teams managed to have a lower total and again that was Ottawa.

Boston's a great defensive team and Horton is part of that team. Horton may not standout on such a defensive team, but that doesn't mean he isn't a good defensive player. Basically the whole team is strong defensively, Horton also has an offensive touch that some of the other guys don't have, so obviously they'll put him in a scoring role.

On an offensive team Horton would be in a defensive role. Since boston lacks scoring, they have no choice to put a 2-way player in an offensive role.

[KeepsItReal]

Patrick Kane is a centreman who is often switched to wing, does that make him any less impressive?

That depends, are we talking about his offensive skills or his all around/2 way play?

Also, plus minus is a relatively meaningless stat. The only time it has any real value at all is if a player on a bad team has a good plus minus, or vise versa.

There are way too many factors involved.

Tyler Seguin was 2nd last year, and 9th this year for regular season plus minus. Would anyone in their right mind describe him as one of the leagues best defensive forwards?

[weepingminotaur]

I don't want to spend money in free agency just for the sake of it. A few depth signings and/or trade, until next summer, when we can and likely should go all-in.

[KeepsItReal]

I don't want to spend money in free agency just for the sake of it. A few depth signings and/or trade, until next summer, when we can and likely should go all-in.

That's why I'm in favour of one of the several solid veteran guys on a 1 year deal.

Worst case scenario the habs regress big time from last season and he becomes a great trading chip.

[weepingminotaur]

That's why I'm in favour of one of the several solid veteran guys on a 1 year deal.

What veteran are you thinking of?

Worst case scenario the habs regress big time from last season and he becomes a great trading chip.

I'd be surprised to see a big regression. We were a good puck possession team this past season and we won without anyone having an unlikely-to-repeat career year. We might dip anywhere between 4th and 6th place in terms of our playoff seeding, but we should be a strong team, particularly if we can clean up our penalty kill and Carey can get his game back on track.