kinot-1 Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 From TSN, at 9:45 AM, EST "The Philadelphia Flyers have called a news conference for 11am et/8am pt to announce that the club has fired head coach Peter Laviolette and replaced him with assistant Craig Berube. The Flyers are off to a 0-3 start this season." Thought he would have had at least 10 games before they pulled the plug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs_93 Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 From TSN, at 9:45 AM, EST "The Philadelphia Flyers have called a news conference for 11am et/8am pt to announce that the club has fired head coach Peter Laviolette and replaced him with assistant Craig Berube. The Flyers are off to a 0-3 start this season." Thought he would have had at least 10 games before they pulled the plug. They looked really, really bad. One even strength goal in 3 games? Not pretty. I'm not sure Berube is much of an improvement even in the short term, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 They looked really, really bad. One even strength goal in 3 games? Not pretty. I'm not sure Berube is much of an improvement even in the short term, though. The thing is tho, 93, is that Berube still has the same team as Lavvy did. I don't see any positivity in Berube's moving to the head-coaching job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs_93 Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 The thing is tho, 93, is that Berube still has the same team as Lavvy did. I don't see any positivity in Berube's moving to the head-coaching job. I think it's 50/50 whether or not they'll change. That roster is ugly. It'd be ugly with Bowman. There's no easy fix for it. Maybe Berube can shock them into a temporary improvement, but that probably wouldn't last. There's nothing functional about that organization. It really needs to be cleaned out top to bottom. But their owner has absolutely no appetite for such a move; an Edmonton-style (or even Toronto-style) rebuild will not happen in Philly while Ed Snider is alive, no matter how dire their situation is. How can this possibly go well? Chilling days in cheesepuff land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerplay2009 Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 I don't think its so much Snider, as it is Holmgren making boneheaded moves that really didn't make a lot of sense to me. You almost win the Cup except for goaltending, so then you trade away almost everything that got you so close to the Cup (granted, they got some good young assets, but each one would have had to meet their top potential almost right away, a pretty much impossible situation) all in the name of a goaltender who, even if he performed at a high level, isn't worth what you gave up in terms of salary and assets in the best of situations. An over-reaction to say the least. They went on a bit of a miracle run that year, but still makes no sense. One does not simply rebuild after winning the conference. Have to imagine his days are numbered as GM. I would can him before the deadline to make sure he doesn't do anything else stupid and set the team farther back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs_93 Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 From everything I've read, Snider is a Jerry Jones/Al Davis-style nuisance to his team. I have no doubt that Holmgren's made bad moves on his own, but he's also made bad moves he was ordered to make by Snider. Either way, that organization appears allergic to the concept of a proper rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerplay2009 Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 From everything I've read, Snider is a Jerry Jones/Al Davis-style nuisance to his team. I have no doubt that Holmgren's made bad moves on his own, but he's also made bad moves he was ordered to make by Snider. Either way, that organization appears allergic to the concept of a proper rebuild. I haven't honestly read into Snider enough (by which I mean at all), but you're probably right. But you would think that pressure on Holmgren would lead him to rely on less circumstantial and overly optimistic reasoning on which to base his moves as general manager, particularly coming off of the successful seasons they had a few years ago, where for a while they were actually pretty competitive. Still, regardless of where the gong show came from, the fact remains that Philly is a gong show, and there is no way a coach can fix it. Some parallels to the Gauthier-Cunneyworth scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Could it be that Berube is an interim coach? By that I mean that he hasn't coached anywhere, while there are still some pretty good coaches out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 From Philly.com: In 2006, the Flyers waited eight games -- 1-6-1 -- to fire Ken Hitchcock. Then again, Ed Snider was only 73 years old in 2006. Snider is 80 now, and time is a-wasting, and the last Cup was in 1975, and the team is 0-3, and Peter Laviolette has been fired, and no one seems all that surprised by the tragicomedy. Everybody could see this coming...but three games? How can you bring Laviolette back and give him only three games? If the Flyers had fired him at the end of last season, everyone would have understood. But to bring him back this season and to fire him during the appetizers is ridiculous. Short leash? Fine. But has anyone ever heard of a leash that has only three links in its chain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 I don't see a problem with the timeline involved with his firing. They finished poorly last year but management took into account team injuries as the main factor and decided to wait for a bigger sampling before making a change. They played poorly during the pre season and showed no improvement in their 3 regular season games. Appeared that the coach lost the room and as always,, coaches are the first victims. Look for the GM to fall next if things don't quickly improve, followed by player movement. Business as usual in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIENS27 Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 From Philly.com: In 2006, the Flyers waited eight games -- 1-6-1 -- to fire Ken Hitchcock. Then again, Ed Snider was only 73 years old in 2006. Snider is 80 now, and time is a-wasting, and the last Cup was in 1975, and the team is 0-3, and Peter Laviolette has been fired, and no one seems all that surprised by the tragicomedy. Everybody could see this coming...but three games? How can you bring Laviolette back and give him only three games? If the Flyers had fired him at the end of last season, everyone would have understood. But to bring him back this season and to fire him during the appetizers is ridiculous. Short leash? Fine. But has anyone ever heard of a leash that has only three links in its chain? The surprise he wasn't fired at the end of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habby4ever Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Were Flyers right to fire Laviolette? Yes, he lost the team 42.22 % No, way too early 37.78 % Hard to say 20.00 % Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIENS27 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 NHL.com. Scott Hartnell and Vincent Lecavalier will miss at least a week due to injuries incurred in a 2-1 loss to Phoenix. Hartnell has an upper body injury and Lecavalier has a lower body injury. Both will remain in Philadelphia for an MRI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncivilengineer Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Looks like Philly is officially saying Pronger is done. Not unexpected. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=434164 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIENS27 Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 NHL.com. Kimmo Timonen is day to day with a lower body injury. He left with 5:56 remaining in the second period of a 2-1 loss to Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIENS27 Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 NHL.com. Vincent Lecavalier is set to return tonight but will likely be playing right wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIENS27 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 NHL.com. Scott Hartnell returns to the lineup tonight against the Islanders after missing four games with a reported rib injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIENS27 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 NHL.com. Steve Downie is out indefinitely with a concussion and Vincent Lecavalier is day to day with facial injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIENS27 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 NHL.com. Vincent Lecavalier will miss tonight's game with Minnesota with back spasms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIENS27 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 NHL.com. Brayen Schenn has been fined $2230.77 for cross checking Chicago's Kris Versteeg at 13:25 of the second period. No penalty was assessed on the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIENS27 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 NHL.com. Philadelphia has signed goaltender Steve Mason to a contract extension which has been reported by the CBC to three years and $12.3 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIENS27 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 NHL.com. Kimmo Timonen will miss his second straight game with a lower body injury that occurred after blocking a shot in the third period Thursday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrsmarkov Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 No surprise, Mason will be in net tonight for the Flyers against the Sharks. Mason is hot right now with two shutouts in his last 5 games, 1.41 goals against and .955 save percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIENS27 Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Traded defenseman Andrej Meszaros to Boston for a 2014 third round draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIENS27 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 NHL.com. Steve Downie left today's game with St. Louis with an upper body injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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