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After watching the Leafs practice with the orange street hockey balls, got me wondering how a real NHL game would be different if they replaced the puck with this ball?

Would there be more stick handling?

Would there be more accurate shooting?

Would there be less icing?

Just curious what your thoughts are as I've never played ice hockey with an orange hockey ball before..

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After watching the Leafs practice with the orange street hockey balls, got me wondering how a real NHL game would be different if they replaced the puck with this ball?

Would there be more stick handling?

Would there be more accurate shooting?

Would there be less icing?

Just curious what your thoughts are as I've never played ice hockey with an orange hockey ball before..

Moved your thread to the appropriate forum.

Are they playing on normal ice, or is this road hockey style that your talking about??

Doesn't seem to have helped the Leafs much in their game. :lol: Balls obviously react different then pucks, so i'm guessing the only possible advantage would be decreased injuries from being struck by a hard rubber projectile as opposed to a ball (guessing with an air center). Looked like Phaneuf was playing with a ball at times this past weekend, and we all saw how that affected his game.

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After watching the Leafs practice with the orange street hockey balls, got me wondering how a real NHL game would be different if they replaced the puck with this ball?

Would there be more stick handling?

Would there be more accurate shooting?

Would there be less icing?

Just curious what your thoughts are as I've never played ice hockey with an orange hockey ball before..

Try playing with a sponge puck! :)

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@ Bell75 I do not think we will ever see hockey go to the orange hockey ball to replace the black rubber hockey puck.

I do think that making the puck a bright orange colour would be an idea though what do you think?

The puck would stand out better on the ice & make it easier for the fans too keep track of it oh the goalies as well LOL. :)

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  • 7 months later...

Here's an interesting idea. A AHL goalie sees a 2 on 0 coming at him, and he intentionally knocks the net off the moorings. The result was a penalty shot, which he stopped. He was playing the percentages. If his team got 2 mins., then the chances are in his favour that the opposition would not score. If a penalty shot was awarded, then the odds were also in his favour. A 2 on 0 would probably score.

Here's the vid

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I can see the NHL stepping in with a rule change and awarding an instant goal in a situation like that.

Word will get around in the NHL, but wouldn't the league have to wait until the season is over before making rule changes, similar to the penalty shot/shoot-out rule regarding the "puck straight to the net" rule?

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Word will get around in the NHL, but wouldn't the league have to wait until the season is over before making rule changes, similar to the penalty shot/shoot-out rule regarding the "puck straight to the net" rule?

Possibly.

We all know the NHL does what it wants when it wants.

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I can see the NHL stepping in with a rule change and awarding an instant goal in a situation like that.

Leggio should be suspended for harming the integrity of the game. :ph34r:

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Possibly.

We all know the NHL does what it wants when it wants.

Just heard on Sportsnet that the board of governors has to make the changes and they don't meet for 4 months.

Leggio should be suspended for harming the integrity of the game. :ph34r:

If Carey did it, would that be your exception to the rule? :P

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If Carey did it, would that be your exception to the rule? :P

Nope.

After the Avery stick waving in the face incident with Brodeur during the playoffs the league came out with a new amendment to the unsportsmanlike penalty the next day.

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Nope.

After the Avery stick waving in the face incident with Brodeur during the playoffs the league came out with a new amendment to the unsportsmanlike penalty the next day.

The first NHL goalie to do it during a game, will get some sort of penalty/penalty shot, but that's all. Only then, will the NHL do something about it. The way I see it, the NHL should/will award a goal, if it's done after a rule change.

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Given yet another example of the goalie being able to cleverly hide the puck from camera view last night against the Oilers, how soon do you think we'll be able to see puck tracking? What I imagine is a tracking device imbedded in the rubber of the puck which is able to track its specific location to all areas of its circumference in relation to the inside edge of the goal lines.

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Given yet another example of the goalie being able to cleverly hide the puck from camera view last night against the Oilers, how soon do you think we'll be able to see puck tracking? What I imagine is a tracking device imbedded in the rubber of the puck which is able to track its specific location to all areas of its circumference in relation to the inside edge of the goal lines.

Sounds like the return of the Fox puck with modifications. :lol:

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How about cameras being able to see the puck from underneath the goal line?

Then we would have views from above and below, eliminating the crossbar as a barrier. But a goal line up look might not be wide enough and wouldn't necessarily solve the problem for pucks hidden by the glove; most importantly, would we be able to imbed a camera in the ice which can give a clear picture?

Perhaps the whole inside perimeter of the net could be set up to motion sense the puck. Once the entire length of the puck crosses the inside edge of the goal line, the puck registers as having crossed the line. This would probably used exclusively in moments where the puck is obscured from view. It doesn't set off the goal light or signal a goal or anything, it just serves as a backup for telling where the puck is in space when we can't visualize it.

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Most of the "hidden puck" problems could be solved by high speed higher resolution cameras. One of these days when I have the time I'll do a 3D render showing the difference between 1080/60i and 4K progressive at high speed. "High Definition" isn't so impressive when you're zooming an interlaced frame by 4 or 5 times with serious motion blur.

The situations where no overhead camera can see it are difficult. They put cameras inside the sides of the goal posts during the playoffs, which help a bit. But I'm not sure another wide angle view (even at extreme low angle, such as at the centre-bottom of the net) will do much. And underneath the ice is all but a non-starter.

The FoxTrax glow puck used infrared cameras and emitters in the puck with a track solve program. Impressive for 1996, rather pedestrian these days; you can do more complex things on your phone with no user interaction. If the puck's being covered, any light from the IR diodes will naturally be attenuated. Accelerometers and RFID or ultrasonic positioning, IMO, are a better idea, but this isn't my area of expertise.

It's also worth noting that from some of the views I've seen of the situation in Edmonton, you can actually see white between the goal line and the puck even with the current setup. Higher contrast colours on the goal line and in the net would help, too.

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  • 2 months later...

Hire any guy who is in the position to block shots that he gets hit in the groin and his cup breaks.

That's deserving of addressing our Z problem. :P

ZZZZZZZZZZZZ on tonight's game BTW.

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