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If Galchenyuk's healthy, I think he plays. If he's not 95%+, he waits. Yes, it's tough to sit someone, but sitting Prust or Weise or Briere or Bourque for a game doesn't mean that guy needs to sit the entire series. You have an internal competition for guys to keep their ice time and line-up spots, and that's not a bad thing. Galchenyuk is ultimately a better player than half of the forwards we have right now and if the goal is to win a Cup, you need to re-integrate a good player when you have him. You could be worse off for it, but you can't be afraid of risk and you can't be afraid to be better.

I'm aware any decision will be controversial, but the two guys I'd look at sitting in Game 1 if Galchenyuk is ready are Briere and Bourque. Weise and Bournival have been two of our top forwards, and I think Prust was one of best players in Games 6 and 7, in addition to possibly being motivated to play his former team. But I wouldn't have a problem with Galchenyuk-Eller-Gionta as a third line nor with Galchenyuk playing the 4th to start, along with some PP time to work him back in.

My thinking exactly. I highly doubt he is rushed (if he plays, its because he's 100%) and as good as he was in the first round, I think Bourque would be my choice to sit for Gally to come in.

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Habs beat Boston so everything from here on out is gravy. I think this will be a very close series. Your not going to have 4-0 shut outs . One goal games and probably a good chunk of them going to OT.

I want to say habs in 6. But its a hard call.

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I really hope Weise isn't a healthy scratch. The guy really deserves a spot,imho- I think there is a case for him being the overall mvp so far- and I'm a huge fan of #14 (who needs to crank it up a notch, he hasn't quite been the Tomas Plekanec I've come to expect)-Briere-hmm, I don't know about sotting him-he's kind of a playoff specialist, lots of experience, and seems to be pretty much on now. I was slightly disappointed with Vanek in game7, mostly due to his lacklustre back-checking, but I'm sure he will notch points against the Broadway Blueshirts. As jennifer observed-Rick Nash is SERIOUSLY overdue, and he is just too strong and talented to ignore. We were very fortunate against the Goons that Krejci was mired in a very rare slump (and he is one of the very,very few Bruins I can consider as a good, sportsmanlike player). I don't know if that kind of luck will continue to help us with Nash.

Marty St. Louis is def going to be revved up- the Rangers really gelled and bonded over his unfortunate family loss, and he has been to the show before and won. He can be an inspiring player- one who I've always enjoyed watching. Imo, he and Breire are quite similar in many aspects.

Prusty, is usually a real solid worker and plays good defensively, as well as being an aggressive physical presence. So, I guess it does come down to Moen and White probably watching at first, just by default. Doing that, of course, means losing a lot of size and potential intimidation factor- as well as possible protection for some of our vertically-challenged guys. But if Alex G. is healthy, MT needs to find a spot for him, I think. Just in case he starts off on a hot streak....as noted, the others can be added to the mix as required.

On a final note-were you guys as impressed with #51 last night as I was?-man, he was all over the ice, and even came close to out-muscleing Chara at times. For the entire game, he really looked like he belonged on the top line to me.

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I really hope Weise isn't a healthy scratch. The guy really deserves a spot,imho- I think there is a case for him being the overall mvp so far- and I'm a huge fan of #14 (who needs to crank it up a notch, he hasn't quite been the Tomas Plekanec I've come to expect)-Briere-hmm, I don't know about sotting him-he's kind of a playoff specialist, lots of experience, and seems to be pretty much on now. I was slightly disappointed with Vanek in game7, mostly due to his lacklustre back-checking, but I'm sure he will notch points against the Broadway Blueshirts. As jennifer observed-Rick Nash is SERIOUSLY overdue, and he is just too strong and talented to ignore. We were very fortunate against the Goons that Krejci was mired in a very rare slump (and he is one of the very,very few Bruins I can consider as a good, sportsmanlike player). I don't know if that kind of luck will continue to help us with Nash.

Marty St. Louis is def going to be revved up- the Rangers really gelled and bonded over his unfortunate family loss, and he has been to the show before and won. He can be an inspiring player- one who I've always enjoyed watching. Imo, he and Breire are quite similar in many aspects.

Prusty, is usually a real solid worker and plays good defensively, as well as being an aggressive physical presence. So, I guess it does come down to Moen and White probably watching at first, just by default. Doing that, of course, means losing a lot of size and potential intimidation factor- as well as possible protection for some of our vertically-challenged guys. But if Alex G. is healthy, MT needs to find a spot for him, I think. Just in case he starts off on a hot streak....as noted, the others can be added to the mix as required.

On a final note-were you guys as impressed with #51 last night as I was?-man, he was all over the ice, and even came close to out-muscleing Chara at times. For the entire game, he really looked like he belonged on the top line to me.

Agree completely with this, except the size part. We don't need size. We just need to continue being speedy..though the Rangers are quite similar to us in certain ways.

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I say Habs in 5. I think the Habs will win both games at home and then they split it at MSG, then come home and win. Though Henrik is one of the greatest goalies, I predict he will have a tough time. He's going to need to adjust because honestly when was the last time he played at the Bell Centre? It's been a while. Every time the Rangers come to town he sits on the bench due to his poor numbers in Montreal. Considering that it's the playoffs, Vigneault wont be looking at the stats and he will obviously be in goal. I think we got this. My biggest concern is St. Louis...plus he will want to play even better since he will be home.

St Louis? They got knocked out already!!! Wait...lol

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Maybe I was watching a different series, but.....I still think New York won primarily because Pittsburgh's defense was terrible, and Fleury was good for about five whole minutes. I thought the Rangers at times looked like the worst team in hockey.

Now, I know that the series won't play out that way, but the only way this is a close one is if the Habs don't finish all the glorious chances they will get, or most of them, anyway. Lundquist will struggle in half the games, probably, just because the Habs are the Habs and he has trouble with us.

Not that I would "take them lightly" if I were the coach or the team preparing for the series. You still have to prepare for your opponent. But even with Nash, Richards, and St. Louis, they still have to fight through our defense and then solve Carey Price in a career-and-gold-medal year.

I like our depth more than theirs, and if the theory of the top lines "canceling each other out" holds true, then guys like Weise, Briere, Bourque and Prust will be winning games.

I also like the fact that we just finished a series with the dirtiest slimebags in the NHL who are supposed to "punish" teams with their physical play. The Rangers do play a physical game, but NOTHING like the Bruins. Our skaters are going to have a field day. Some are saying these will be low-scoring games, but with guys like Vanek and Patches, I wouldn't be surprised to see multiple-goal games for some of our top scorers and even a hat trick or two.

The only thing I'm worried about is if the Habs "let up" even a little, and become their own worst enemy again. But if they take care of business, I see them getting on a roll in this one.

The first game will tell us lots about where this series might go.....but I'm starting to think that the stars have aligned for the first time in 21 years.

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Chuckie has his whole career ahead of him so unless it's critical he play I think he sits. Now, mind you, if the Habs get to the Cup finals I think you try to slot Chuckie into some games to at least get his name on the cup by having participated in the finals.


So, if Chuckie is ready to come back... who sits?

The nice thing is that we dont need our 4th line to be super rough so you could ease him into the lineup alongside Briere & Weise or something but all 12 guys have been playing well so it would be sad for any of them to have to sit.

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This is a golden opportunity to the Cup Finals, and I hope the players don't squander it by underestimating the Rangers and taking their foot off the pedal early in the series.

I mean, any team that puts out the Pittsburgh Penguins (the perennial favourites - a status akin to Brazil in soccer), DESERVES respect.

I preferred to play Rangers than Penguins. Because with the exception of the Henrik Lundqvist factor, the matchup with Rangers is more evenly-matched and less physical. It plays more to the Hab's natural style. I believe the Penguins would destroy us, even though Rangers managed to find a way around them.

The biggest danger of screwing up this series is the players becoming overconfident after the Boston win. All the emotions and euphoria need to be reset to zero and focus on playing an opponent with a different style. For me, the key to winning this series is winning all our home games and stealing one or two at Madison Square Garden.

If Galchenyuk comes back, the player he replaces should be Brandon Prust. He's playing ok in the last few games but he's not fully recovered. Don't take Briere off because he has established a chemistry with Weise who is our unmarked dangerman. Even if Briere can't score, he takes his time to make critical passes to Weise. Maybe it's time to give the Vanek-DD-Pacioretty line a last chance to prove themselves in the first game. If it doesn't work out, then revert to current lineups.

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Isnt it great to have an issue where you dont know where to play your 3rd overall draft pick who is crazy good??

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I'd keep the same lineup for Game 1, give Galchenyuk an extra practice (we have two days off before Game 2) and make a decision from there based on how certain individuals look vs the Rangers in Game 1. Candidates to sit for Galchenyuk:

Prust - has looked much better lately though and will probably play a huge game against his former team

Briere - good and bad, but he sure is finding a way to produce with limited ice time, especially when the chips are down

Bourque - but we better make sure beat mode has worn off, because if it hasn't he can be one of the best players on the ice

Weise would have to go really cold for a few games, he just seems to have the hot hand right now. Bournival's speed is too valuable. I really can't see sitting anyone else.

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Can someone post the schedule for this series?

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Ok thanks!

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St Louis? They got knocked out already!!! Wait...lol

Ya just a reminder...Marty isn't a Bolt anymore :P. Very funny Mr. Southern :lol:!

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Maybe I was watching a different series, but.....I still think New York won primarily because Pittsburgh's defense was terrible, and Fleury was good for about five whole minutes. I thought the Rangers at times looked like the worst team in hockey.

Now, I know that the series won't play out that way, but the only way this is a close one is if the Habs don't finish all the glorious chances they will get, or most of them, anyway. Lundquist will struggle in half the games, probably, just because the Habs are the Habs and he has trouble with us.

Not that I would "take them lightly" if I were the coach or the team preparing for the series. You still have to prepare for your opponent. But even with Nash, Richards, and St. Louis, they still have to fight through our defense and then solve Carey Price in a career-and-gold-medal year.

I like our depth more than theirs, and if the theory of the top lines "canceling each other out" holds true, then guys like Weise, Briere, Bourque and Prust will be winning games.

I also like the fact that we just finished a series with the dirtiest slimebags in the NHL who are supposed to "punish" teams with their physical play. The Rangers do play a physical game, but NOTHING like the Bruins. Our skaters are going to have a field day. Some are saying these will be low-scoring games, but with guys like Vanek and Patches, I wouldn't be surprised to see multiple-goal games for some of our top scorers and even a hat trick or two.

The only thing I'm worried about is if the Habs "let up" even a little, and become their own worst enemy again. But if they take care of business, I see them getting on a roll in this one.

The first game will tell us lots about where this series might go.....but I'm starting to think that the stars have aligned for the first time in 21 years.

SAME :D. Oh the feels..

If it was my call I'd slot Gally with pleky and vanek and move bournival with Eller gionta and sit bourque

I wouldn't touch our 4th line and gallyA with vanek could be hard to contain

As much as I don't want the lines to be changed...if he had to play this is exactly what I'd want.

Isnt it great to have an issue where you dont know where to play your 3rd overall draft pick who is crazy good??

It's fantastic and horrible all at the same time.

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I know we have great GDT's but if your interested this is a great preview of the series and who has the better advantage in each specific category

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/24563615/eastern-conference-finals-preview-canadiens-vs-rangers

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Help me out here.

When the Habs went through Washington and Pittsburgh in 2010, both 7 game series, I remember hearing about how poorly teams who'd played 14 games in the first 2 rounds fared in the rest of the playoffs.

I'm not sure if it was that they had never made it to the Cup Finals or never won the Cup.

I'm just curious because the Rangers are in the situation, having gone 7 games against both Philadelphia and Pittsburgh.

Does anyone know anything about this?

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Help me out here.

When the Habs went through Washington and Pittsburgh in 2010, both 7 game series, I remember hearing about how poorly teams who'd played 14 games in the first 2 rounds fared in the rest of the playoffs.

I'm not sure if it was that they had never made it to the Cup Finals or never won the Cup.

I'm just curious because the Rangers are in the situation, having gone 7 games against both Philadelphia and Pittsburgh.

Does anyone know anything about this?

Not sure about the first two rounds, but I know when Boston won the Cup in 2011, they played 3 seven-game series (1st, 3rd, finals) and a total of 25 games, which I believe tied the most ever by a Cup-winning team. I can't imagine teams that have two 7-game series to start have much luck in terms of winning the Cup, but they could probably still win a conference final...

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Help me out here.

When the Habs went through Washington and Pittsburgh in 2010, both 7 game series, I remember hearing about how poorly teams who'd played 14 games in the first 2 rounds fared in the rest of the playoffs.

I'm not sure if it was that they had never made it to the Cup Finals or never won the Cup.

I'm just curious because the Rangers are in the situation, having gone 7 games against both Philadelphia and Pittsburgh.

Does anyone know anything about this?

Not sure FL but they also say teams that have long layoffs in the playoffs tend to go flat. Realistically, I think it just comes down to the best team in the playoffs winning 16 games, no matter how few/many games they play.

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