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UFA's  

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  1. 1. Which UFA's do you want to see Bergevin bring back next year?

    • Thomas Vanek
    • Andrei Markov
    • Michael Weaver
    • Douglas Murray
    • Francis Bouillon
    • George Parros
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    • Brian Gionta


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Season over. On to the next one. Obviously Marc Bergevin will take some time to re-group, but the summer will be short and he really only has a month to get his own guys locked up before July 1st. The priority should be re-signing the likes of Subban, Eller, and Weise, but there are decisions to be made on a number of veteran UFA's. Which would you bring back?

Multiple choices are allowed...

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Weaver and Markov(at less money). Markov was gassed for the Rags series but I think that was due to Therrien using him way too much this season. A TOI of 25 minutes a game was ludicrous.

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Markov for sure, and Weaver for sure.

I think Gionta is still a good player who has a fit on this team as a bottom-6 guy, so at the right price, I want to see him back.

I'm on the fence about Vanek. We can rag on his so-called lack of effort all we want, and maybe he was a little disappointing in the playoffs, but I still think it's hard to argue with his production while he's been here. That said, he's going to cost a fortune, and I'm not sure he's worth it. The way I see it with Vanek, we have 3 options:

1) Go all-in now, and invest in some top-end UFA talent

2) Go all-in now, but spend the money we would on Vanek on more depth

3) Go all-in in a couple years, hopefully there will be a better UFA option, or our depth is more developed to have a mix of depth and top-end talent.

Right now, I'm leaning towards option 2. I don't think it's fair to expect a better time to go all-in, so we might as well do it now. I would like top-end talent, but I'm not sure Vanek is the right fit, and nobody else is available right now that I've seen that interests me as a big-money player.

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I'd take them all back except Parros, Bouillon and Murray for the right contracts. I'm not giving Markov 3 years, I'm not getting near what Vanek will want and Gionta is unlikely. Weaver was good but I could take him or leave him.

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I think Mike Weaver is a must along with Douglas Murray as both of these players bring different tools & attributes too the team that really help over the course of a long gruelling season.

I would like too see Markov return but @ a cheaper price as MB will need more cap space too sign the likes of a sniper ie:Vanek in the off season.

Weaver is a must for his tenacity & shot blocking very dependable & a work horse for sure same as Murray his grit is an asset along with his size & toughness.

I think the Habs need too resign Parros along with another fighter too assist in the Boston series & other games involving cheap shot teams.

I'm proud of the Habs for what they accomplished this past season & in the playoffs & cannot wait till next season.

Go Habs Go !!!

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Weaver is the only sure thing.

Markov IF ... IF we get him for cheap. 2-3 years max @ 3-4million

I think Mike Weaver is a must along with Douglas Murray as both of these players bring different tools & attributes too the team that really help over the course of a long gruelling season.

The only thing Douglas Murray brings is something for opposing players to skate around. Overall for the course of the season by every advanced stat metric he is a horrible, if not the WORST, player in the NHL.



I think the Habs need too resign Parros along with another fighter too assist in the Boston series & other games involving cheap shot teams.

Parros didn't play a single game against Boston and we dominated them. We don't need Parros, he's a relic of a by gone age in hockey and brings nothing else to the table.

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I think Mike Weaver is a must along with Douglas Murray as both of these players bring different tools & attributes too the team that really help over the course of a long gruelling season.

I would like too see Markov return but @ a cheaper price as MB will need more cap space too sign the likes of a sniper ie:Vanek in the off season.

Weaver is a must for his tenacity & shot blocking very dependable & a work horse for sure same as Murray his grit is an asset along with his size & toughness.

I think the Habs need too resign Parros along with another fighter too assist in the Boston series & other games involving cheap shot teams.

I'm proud of the Habs for what they accomplished this past season & in the playoffs & cannot wait till next season.

Go Habs Go !!!

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I'd take them all back except Parros, Bouillon and Murray for the right contracts. I'm not giving Markov 3 years, I'm not getting near what Vanek will want and Gionta is unlikely. Weaver was good but I could take him or leave him.

Im the same.

Weaver I would bring back for sure as a #6-7. Im pretty sure he'd be happy to do so.

Markov & Gionta I would both bring back for the right price (and short term)... and I could actually see it happening. Gio I think would take a 1 year deal for 1/2 his current salary. Markov... money shouldnt be an issue but term... i think he wants 3 years. if the price is right I *might* do that simply because even in 3 years Markov as a 3rd pairing, PP specialist sounds fine to me. I would offer something like $8m for 2 or 3 years - you take your pick, but the money is the same regardless on whether its divided between 2 or 3 years.

Vanek, Murray, Boullion and Parros I would pass on. The latter 3 because they'd be eating valuable ice time from better, younger players. Vanek obviously I would take back for 2 years at $5m per or something, but considering what he's most likely after, I would pass.

Im actually more worried about a few of the guys we have under contract:

- Emelin: can he be at least a bonefide #4 again? His mobility is so bad now... and where did his hockey sense go? Praying for a big rebound year next season

- Bourque: which bourque do we get next year?

- DD: I like him. I think he's useful in the right circumstance but I think he's holding us back as a #1. Id really like to see Galchenyuk in his spot next year. (ice time, wingers etc)

- Plekanec: he's always so great during the regular season but yet again a mostly average playoffs for Tomas. Is it time to move him & try to get value out of him while he still has it?

- Therrien: Will he ever give our 3 young dmen the time they need & deserve on the blueline?

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Markov and Weaver of coarse. Markov, I honestly don't need to explain. But Weaver omg what an acquisition he was. When I heard we acquired him I basically screamed with excitement. I have always liked this guy, he's always played the way he displayed for the Habs. He's just incredible. Letting him slip away would be such a foolish thing to do.

If I can have one more off of the list I'd choose Franky Boo, he's meant to be a Hab for life. No he doesn't play the way he use to, but he's full of passion, hard work, contributes when times get tough and actually wants to be here. I can't say the same for Vanek, I have no interest in suiting up a player who doesn't even want to be on the team. You can have all of the talent in the world, but if you're not mentally in it...well what's the point?

Gio, I can have him or leave him. Either way is good for me. He's not a waste of space nor would he be desperately missed.



Markov for sure, and Weaver for sure.

I think Gionta is still a good player who has a fit on this team as a bottom-6 guy, so at the right price, I want to see him back.

I'm on the fence about Vanek. We can rag on his so-called lack of effort all we want, and maybe he was a little disappointing in the playoffs, but I still think it's hard to argue with his production while he's been here. That said, he's going to cost a fortune, and I'm not sure he's worth it. The way I see it with Vanek, we have 3 options:

1) Go all-in now, and invest in some top-end UFA talent

2) Go all-in now, but spend the money we would on Vanek on more depth

3) Go all-in in a couple years, hopefully there will be a better UFA option, or our depth is more developed to have a mix of depth and top-end talent.

Right now, I'm leaning towards option 2. I don't think it's fair to expect a better time to go all-in, so we might as well do it now. I would like top-end talent, but I'm not sure Vanek is the right fit, and nobody else is available right now that I've seen that interests me as a big-money player.

I'm all about option 2. That should be the top priority. For me, Vanek's time as a Hab is up.

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Markov and Weaver resign key players, I'm 60/40 favouring on not singing Vanek, I would rather get Ryan Callahan and/or Matt Moulson.

AGREED!

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I think Mike Weaver is a must along with Douglas Murray as both of these players bring different tools & attributes too the team that really help over the course of a long gruelling season.

I would like too see Markov return but @ a cheaper price as MB will need more cap space too sign the likes of a sniper ie:Vanek in the off season.

Weaver is a must for his tenacity & shot blocking very dependable & a work horse for sure same as Murray his grit is an asset along with his size & toughness.

I think the Habs need too resign Parros along with another fighter too assist in the Boston series & other games involving cheap shot teams.

I'm proud of the Habs for what they accomplished this past season & in the playoffs & cannot wait till next season.

Go Habs Go !!!

Oh gosh, disagree completely with signing Murray and Parros. We could easily get tough guys elsewhere that can actually play and aren't so delicate. Oh and definitely disagree on Vanek, his time is up. But regardless, I don't see him accepting a deal either way. He knows what he wants to do.

Weaver is the only sure thing.

Markov IF ... IF we get him for cheap. 2-3 years max @ 3-4million

The only thing Douglas Murray brings is something for opposing players to skate around. Overall for the course of the season by every advanced stat metric he is a horrible, if not the WORST, player in the NHL.

Parros didn't play a single game against Boston and we dominated them. We don't need Parros, he's a relic of a by gone age in hockey and brings nothing else to the table.

Agreed on what you said about Murray and Parros. I honestly don't understand how either of them are still in the NHL. Time to hang up those skates!

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My exact reaction, I had to reread it :lol:.

I voted Weaver. Affordable... Reliable.

THIS!!!

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Im the same.

Weaver I would bring back for sure as a #6-7. Im pretty sure he'd be happy to do so.

Markov & Gionta I would both bring back for the right price (and short term)... and I could actually see it happening. Gio I think would take a 1 year deal for 1/2 his current salary. Markov... money shouldnt be an issue but term... i think he wants 3 years. if the price is right I *might* do that simply because even in 3 years Markov as a 3rd pairing, PP specialist sounds fine to me. I would offer something like $8m for 2 or 3 years - you take your pick, but the money is the same regardless on whether its divided between 2 or 3 years.

Vanek, Murray, Boullion and Parros I would pass on. The latter 3 because they'd be eating valuable ice time from better, younger players. Vanek obviously I would take back for 2 years at $5m per or something, but considering what he's most likely after, I would pass.

Im actually more worried about a few of the guys we have under contract:

- Emelin: can he be at least a bonefide #4 again? His mobility is so bad now... and where did his hockey sense go? Praying for a big rebound year next season

- Bourque: which bourque do we get next year?

- DD: I like him. I think he's useful in the right circumstance but I think he's holding us back as a #1. Id really like to see Galchenyuk in his spot next year. (ice time, wingers etc)

- Plekanec: he's always so great during the regular season but yet again a mostly average playoffs for Tomas. Is it time to move him & try to get value out of him while he still has it?

- Therrien: Will he ever give our 3 young dmen the time they need & deserve on the blueline?

AGREED with these 3 points!

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Obviously, the numbers behind the contract matter for every player, but there are three players (as others have pointed out) that I have no interest in re-signing regardless of what they're asking for: Murray, Bouillon, and Parros. Murray and Parros are no longer NHL-quality players and Bouillon isn't good enough to beat out the likes of Beaulieu and Tinordi for ice time, although he may catch on the way Hal Gill did with another team.

I'm curious to know why so many people have no interest in Vanek though. Is this because people are assuming he doesn't want to play here or because they assume he'll ask for more money or term than we want to give out? Or is it really because of a viewed lack of ability to deliver? Say we keep DD, Plekanec, and Eller down the middle. It leaves us with Pacioretty, Gallagher, and Galchenyuk as potential top 6 wingers, and that's IF we don't move Galchenyuk back to the middle. It means your last top 6 winger is probably Bourque and that you're scrambling to fill the 3rd line with the likes of Bournival, Briere, Weise, Prust, Moen, and if they come back, Gionta and Leblanc. Slim pickings. The team either has to stick it out with Vanek or else make a move for some more offence to fill out the top 6, in my opinion. Callahan was mentioned as one option, but he might cost almost as much as Vanek (rumor was that Callahan wanted 6-6.5M a season on a long-term deal, which is why NY traded him in the first place).

I'm not saying you need to offer Vanek 7-8 years at 7M a season. But what about a Marian Hossa type deal for one year and 7.5M? Or an offer for 5 years at 7M each? The worst that can happen is that he says no and we move on. We're not compelled to give him what he wants but given that we have his rights and can try to negotiate before July 1st, I think it's stupid not to see if we can work out a deal that we like. It's not like we're a team scrambling on July 1st and wasting time with him only to find out other free agents have moved on while we waited on Vanek. As much as he bottomed out in the last two rounds of the playoffs, he's still the best scoring winger available right now and I'd be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

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I'm with you, Ted. There's a spot that needs to be filled, and Vanek is the best option available without sacrificing anything except cap space.

I'm open to trying to sign Weaver, but not for too long or too much.

My heart wants to keep Markov here for the rest of his playing career, but my head isn't sure.

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By the sound of it, it looks like Vanek's days in Montreal are over:

"A year ago I made a decision that it will likely be my only time to pick my own team, and hopefully pick a team where I have a chance to win," said Vanek, who started the season in Buffalo and moved to the New York Islanders before being picked up at the trade deadline by Montreal. "Once you make the decision, you can't look back.

"I loved it. It's a market that I wasn't used to. Overall, I have nothing but good things to say. Marc Bergevin really made me feel at home. When I had ups and downs he was always there for me. He's a great guy. I'll always appreciate what he did for me."

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=453642

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By the sound of it, it looks like Vanek's days in Montreal are over:

"A year ago I made a decision that it will likely be my only time to pick my own team, and hopefully pick a team where I have a chance to win," said Vanek, who started the season in Buffalo and moved to the New York Islanders before being picked up at the trade deadline by Montreal. "Once you make the decision, you can't look back.

"I loved it. It's a market that I wasn't used to. Overall, I have nothing but good things to say. Marc Bergevin really made me feel at home. When I had ups and downs he was always there for me. He's a great guy. I'll always appreciate what he did for me."

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=453642

He also said in his interview today that "you never know, maybe I'll be back" or something to that effect. I think he was seriously considering it by the end of the regular season and then he got a taste of how harsh fans and media can be during the playoffs. But I wouldn't rule out a return completely, I think it just depends what his demands are. If he wants a Marian Hossa type arrangement that gives him a shot at a Cup on a one or two year deal, he could well be back.

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By the sound of it, it looks like Vanek's days in Montreal are over:

"A year ago I made a decision that it will likely be my only time to pick my own team, and hopefully pick a team where I have a chance to win," said Vanek, who started the season in Buffalo and moved to the New York Islanders before being picked up at the trade deadline by Montreal. "Once you make the decision, you can't look back.

"I loved it. It's a market that I wasn't used to. Overall, I have nothing but good things to say. Marc Bergevin really made me feel at home. When I had ups and downs he was always there for me. He's a great guy. I'll always appreciate what he did for me."

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=453642

Hasta la vista!

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Murray, Parros and Bouillon - pretty self explanatory

There has to be someone younger who can perform the same roles

Markov - I like so long as it's not long term. IF he leaves there's abig hole on D after Subban.

Weaver - decent depth defenceman

Vanek - has stated all along he wants to test UFA. There's probably a contact waiting for him to sign in Minnesota

Gionta - thanks for the 5 yrs . Times to move on . Habs have the market cornered on small forwards . Time to get bigger

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Murray, Parros and Bouillon - pretty self explanatory

There has to be someone younger who can perform the same roles

Markov - I like so long as it's not long term. IF he leaves there's abig hole on D after Subban.

Weaver - decent depth defenceman

Vanek - has stated all along he wants to test UFA. There's probably a contact waiting for him to sign in Minnesota

Gionta - thanks for the 5 yrs . Times to move on . Habs have the market cornered on small forwards . Time to get bigger

Wouldn't surprise me. I thought this all along.

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I'm OK with anybody on that list except for Murray and Parros,,,, assuming the price is right and they are used properly.

On the fence with Soupy. I don't want to see him in the top 6 at all, or used ahead of our ready prospects,,,, but if there are no better depth options available, then i have no problem with a 1 year deal.

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