BigTed3 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 To me, having no captain is a cop out, so let's not consider that option here. If the team names a captain, who do you foresee that being? Is it a veteran like Gionta was or is it a young player stepping into a leadership role like Koivu was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Pleky would be my choice. Him and Marky might not be the best at the media side of the job but i would go with Tomas at least in the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBIGGESTHABSFAN123 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 It's tough between Markov and Plekanec for me but I went with Marky. Don't ask me why, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewfoundlandHab Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Dave Stubbs @Dave_Stubbs 3m Gionta sees Plekanec as next captain of #Habs. Many good young guys coming up, he says, but he doesn't believe they're ready for C yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 The guy I actually think could be a good captain here long-term is Eller. He is accountable to the media, he seems well-liked, and he plays hard. I don't know if he's 100% ready yet and it also remains to be seen if the Habs are going to sign him long-term and give him the chance to be part of the core. He's certainly earned that chance, but he hasn't received it yet. To me, Eller's a little bit less controversial than Subban (who I see as an "A" down the road and maybe some day a "C" but not yet) and a little bit more of an on-ice example than Pacioretty (who like most snipers is more of a streaky player). At present, I'd give the C to someone as a bridge to Eller (or Subban/Gallagher if they don't keep Eller long-term). Markov seems like he'll be here another three years but I don't know that he wants the job. I think Plekanec has earned the title for now based on how solid an effort he puts in and how long he's been here. He's someone other players can look up to, and I think we can afford to put him in a two-way role and not have to ask him to worry about being the captain and scoring 30 goals, like we might Pacioretty. In other words, he's the one least likely to be questioned for his performance. Making Plekanec captain might also boost his trade value in a year or two if we decide to make that move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrsmarkov Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 This is Marky's only opportunity and it's about time. He's earned it, that's for sure. The only question is...does he want to be captain? Pk is just not ready, maybe in some years. But he still has so much growth. I couldn't imagine Marky being led by Pk. Marky is one of the only people that puts PK in his place and can actually set the guy straight when he's acting like a kid and just not thinking straight. Marky for the win...Pleky is my second choice. But for me it would be a slap in the face to Marky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 This is Marky's only opportunity and it's about time. He's earned it, that's for sure. The only question is...does he want to be captain? Pk is just not ready, maybe in some years. But he still has so much growth. I couldn't imagine Marky being led by Pk. Marky is one of the only people that puts PK in his place and can actually set the guy straight when he's acting like a kid and just not thinking straight. Marky for the win...Pleky is my second choice. But for me it would be a slap in the face to Marky. I have a feeling he was the choice going forward after we lost Saku, but he declined. No source,,,,just a feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob616 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Think it's gonna be Markov with Pleks and Subban getting the A. I'd love to see Subban get the C just for how mad it'll make the good ol' boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs_93 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Think it's gonna be Markov with Pleks and Subban getting the A. I'd love to see Subban get the C just for how mad it'll make the good ol' boys. My sentiments exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Think it's gonna be Markov with Pleks and Subban getting the A. I'd love to see Subban get the C just for how mad it'll make the good ol' boys. I just feel like Markov will turn it down again... so I see Plekanec, with Markov and Pacioretty getting the A's. I think Subban will get a letter eventually but he'll need to wait for Plekanec or Markov to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I picked Patches,,,, just going by what MB said at the presser, about the younger players, and the fact that he doesn't shy away from the press. Markov, IMO, is too introverted to be a good captain, although he certainly has earned it. Pleks could be, but is he here for the long haul? Subban could be in a few years (maybe an "A" first). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicochetII Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I hope Markov is willing to take on the C for a couple of years. He has an air of "calm in a storm" and the respect of the fans and players, even if he isn't a media darling. I don't think Plekanec is a good fit. While he's an effective player, he doesn't elevate those around him, and he has hurt his reputation with officials. Subban isn't ready. He doesn't yet understand that discretion is often the better part of valor. His fire makes him an elite player, but doesn't necessarily instill confidence or passion in others, and makes it difficult to be an effective communicator. Pacioretty could make a good "A", but isn't captain material (at least not yet). The compete isn't always there. He has more potential to be a driving force, but seems content to be a passenger at times. Prust would be a good "C", but wouldn't have the same impact. He doesn't play the minutes a captain should, and he isn't an "un-scratchable" player (and you should never have to scratch your captain). He could serve as an alternate. Eller hasn't yet identified himself as a core member of the roster (at least as far as management appears to be concerned). If he signs for several years for less than Pacioretty, then I would start him with an "A". Gallagher is good captain material, but is too young and "irritating" in others' eyes, carrying that "pest" and "agitator" moniker. ... In conclusion: Markov © Prust (A) Pacioretty (A) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Habs will go with 3 A's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrsmarkov Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 I have a feeling he was the choice going forward after we lost Saku, but he declined. No source,,,,just a feeling. My feeling for years has been that he's never become captain because of how long he was injured. He became injury prone and now he's proven that he's able to stay healthy and is an iron man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted July 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Habs will go with 3 A's. I like the idea of having a captain. Identify someone who's job it is to be responsible for the performance of his team and to hold players accountable. Yes, there are other leaders that aren't lettered, but I think it's a nice rallying point to have a strong captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MergenTatara Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Most likely Markov. But the correct choice should be Brandon Prust. Can grind, fight and rouse the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Most likely Markov. But the correct choice should be Brandon Prust. Can grind, fight and rouse the team. Maybe the correct choice for an amnesty buyout, if we had one left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBIGGESTHABSFAN123 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Maybe the correct choice for an amnesty buyout, if we had one left. Lol, but he is probably tradeable and might fetch a decent return because grit. Just look at what Engelland got LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewfoundlandHab Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 I have a feeling he was the choice going forward after we lost Saku, but he declined. No source,,,,just a feeling. I definitely remember hearing that last time around, though it was never confirmed. Regardless, I think it should be at least offered to Markov. We all know he deserves it. Plus, I feel like in a few years some of our younger players (PK, Patches, Eller) will have matured enough to be able to take on that responsibility. Markov is a perfect short term solution until then. If it goes to Pleks, though he is deserving, in a few years if we have better options, I wouldnt want to have to strip him of the C. If it goes to Marky, he keeps it for the next 3 seasons, likely retires, and the torch gets passed. Plus, like someone already mentioned, is Pleks here for the long haul? The diving incidents in the PO's kind of make me second guess him as well. BT, I do like the idea of Lars Eller. Obviously not now, but in a few years he will be a strong candidate. Plays hard, plays a two way game, and doesnt avoid the media. He can lead by example and with his voice. Plus, if he dopes stay here long term and gets the number 2 C spot that most of us think he will have, then he will have fought through a fair bit early in his career. He was clearly not given much confidence from his coach, bounced around on the 3rd and 4th lines with loads of different linemates. I think he could be a future captain. Whether MB and MT decide to choose the captain, or have a player vote.. I think the C first gets offered to Markov. If he accepts, great. If not, it likely goes to Pleks. I think we see Marky and Pleks with the C and A (depending on if Markov wants it) and the second A goes to Patches or PK. I REALLY like the way PK handled himself during these playoffs. He put the team on his back, faced the media with confidence, and stepped his game up when it really mattered. He's vocal, is a leader on the ice and liked in the locker room. Although, I'd certainly understand overlooking him for now while he's still maturing and giving it to a guy like Pac. C-Markov A-Pleks A-Patches/Subban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPPAPUMPED Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 I would have to say that Pleky should get the knod for Captain as he is a player that put it all out there on a nightly basis & is a leader by example. I am not happy with MB trading Josh Gorges it is going to take time for my loyalties were very strong & I admired Gorges hard play & dedication on & off the ice. I am looking forward too seeing Jorges playing in November when the Sabres play the Habs I hope Gorges does well & is happy in Buffalo he does have Gionta there with him too help with the adjustment. Go Habs Go !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob616 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Maybe the correct choice for an amnesty buyout, if we had one left. He'll be a great leader from the IR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee-X Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 I don't think Plekanec is a good fit. While he's an effective player, he doesn't elevate those around him, and he has hurt his reputation with officials. I went with Plekanec, with Markov being a very, very close second. With that said, though, you do bring up a good point with the bolded part. As much as I really like him, Plekanec has taken a few phantom "high sticks" in his career and seems to get called pretty harshly sometimes by the officials. I'm not sure how much impact a captain talking to a referee actually has on the course of the game, but that could be a legitimate knock against him. As far as the team itself is concerned, though, I still think Plekanec is the best choice. I disagree that he doesn't elevate those around him. He doesn't take scrubs and make them into 30 goal scorers, true, but he's shown that he can form an effective two-way line with literally anybody that we stick him with (and over the years there have been far too many examples). He also strikes me as a pretty straight-shooting 'tells-it-like-it-is' kinda guy. Even with himself - remember the "little girl" comments? I think he would be an effective leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptWelly Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 This is Marky's only opportunity and it's about time. He's earned it, that's for sure. The only question is...does he want to be captain? Pk is just not ready, maybe in some years. But he still has so much growth. I couldn't imagine Marky being led by Pk. Marky is one of the only people that puts PK in his place and can actually set the guy straight when he's acting like a kid and just not thinking straight. Marky for the win...Pleky is my second choice. But for me it would be a slap in the face to Marky. I agree with this and would say Pleks 2nd. Marky © Pleks (A) Pacs (A) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicochetII Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 I went with Plekanec, with Markov being a very, very close second. With that said, though, you do bring up a good point with the bolded part. As much as I really like him, Plekanec has taken a few phantom "high sticks" in his career and seems to get called pretty harshly sometimes by the officials. I'm not sure how much impact a captain talking to a referee actually has on the course of the game, but that could be a legitimate knock against him. As far as the team itself is concerned, though, I still think Plekanec is the best choice. I disagree that he doesn't elevate those around him. He doesn't take scrubs and make them into 30 goal scorers, true, but he's shown that he can form an effective two-way line with literally anybody that we stick him with (and over the years there have been far too many examples). He also strikes me as a pretty straight-shooting 'tells-it-like-it-is' kinda guy. Even with himself - remember the "little girl" comments? I think he would be an effective leader. The thing about having a good relationship with the officials, is that one of the captain's responsibilities is to represent his team in on-ice discussions. If you have a point to make to the referee, he is more likely to hear you out and listen to your argument if he has respect for you, and you show him respect in return. Say someone is cheating at face-offs, or has been getting away with a lot of extra-curricular activity ... If you point this out and ask them to keep an eye on it, they are just going to brush you off if they think you are just seeking a call or an advantage. I'm not saying it precludes him from captaincy, just that it is a factor to consider, and he wouldn't be my choice at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 The guy I actually think could be a good captain here long-term is Eller. He is accountable to the media, he seems well-liked, and he plays hard. I don't know if he's 100% ready yet and it also remains to be seen if the Habs are going to sign him long-term and give him the chance to be part of the core. He's certainly earned that chance, but he hasn't received it yet. To me, Eller's a little bit less controversial than Subban (who I see as an "A" down the road and maybe some day a "C" but not yet) and a little bit more of an on-ice example than Pacioretty (who like most snipers is more of a streaky player). At present, I'd give the C to someone as a bridge to Eller (or Subban/Gallagher if they don't keep Eller long-term). Markov seems like he'll be here another three years but I don't know that he wants the job. I think Plekanec has earned the title for now based on how solid an effort he puts in and how long he's been here. He's someone other players can look up to, and I think we can afford to put him in a two-way role and not have to ask him to worry about being the captain and scoring 30 goals, like we might Pacioretty. In other words, he's the one least likely to be questioned for his performance. Making Plekanec captain might also boost his trade value in a year or two if we decide to make that move. 100% agree. There's a reason why 2 way players are often the best choice for Captain - they do whatever it takes to win and they appeal to both types of players (offensive and defensive around them). If Eller hadnt had such a horrible regular season last year Id have no problem giving him the C. Yes, he's young but he's very mature and I think he'd do fine with it. The fact he did have such a poor stretch coupled with the fact that I think he's only worn the A like one game ever makes me think he's a longshot at best. I think PK may end up with it (although like you, im not sure he's ready) or else it will go to a "safe" bet like Plekanec. If he were more vocal, Id consider a guy like Galchenyuk... and while I think Gallagher has the makings of a captain I dont think they'd do it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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