jedimaas Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 I have no issue with how the Subban thing turned out or the Gallagher deal. Maybe just a learning experience about the PR of it all? There's no question MB has had some learning to do. The positive thing is that he seems to be learning from his mistakes but I agree, i dont love the chronology of it, hopefully that changes in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 There's no question MB has had some learning to do. The positive thing is that he seems to be learning from his mistakes but I agree, i dont love the chronology of it, hopefully that changes in the future. Especially since Galchenyuk's agent has stated the Habs haven't approached him about negotiating a new deal. Maybe he's next, but hopefully the Habs realize Galchenyuk is the better player (skill > grit) and lock him up for 8 years. If they go back to the bridge philosophy with Galchenyuk, it doesn't make any sense to have gone long-term with Gallagher but hard-balled the better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Especially since Galchenyuk's agent has stated the Habs haven't approached him about negotiating a new deal. Maybe he's next, but hopefully the Habs realize Galchenyuk is the better player (skill > grit) and lock him up for 8 years. If they go back to the bridge philosophy with Galchenyuk, it doesn't make any sense to have gone long-term with Gallagher but hard-balled the better players. We'll have to see what they come up with but i could certainly see them (habs brass) intentionally holding off to see what sort of season Galchenyuk has. WIth Gallagher - i mean he hasnt peaked yet, but you have to figure he doesnt have a ton higher ceiling, while Chucky likely has a lot of potential growth yet. If they are indeed planning to offer Galchenyuk a 5 or 6 year deal then waiting a little longer this year makes some sense. Wait & see how it all plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 We'll have to see what they come up with but i could certainly see them (habs brass) intentionally holding off to see what sort of season Galchenyuk has. WIth Gallagher - i mean he hasnt peaked yet, but you have to figure he doesnt have a ton higher ceiling, while Chucky likely has a lot of potential growth yet. If they are indeed planning to offer Galchenyuk a 5 or 6 year deal then waiting a little longer this year makes some sense. Wait & see how it all plays out. But that's exactly the opposite of what a good GM should be doing. You don't want to pay out long term when a guy has already hit what you think is his peak. If Gallagher's already as good as he's going to get, you're paying for that value right now. If you think a guy like Subban or Galchenyuk or so on is only going to get better, you WANT to lock him up now before he hits that peak and demands more. There's a gamble in doing that, but that's why you're paying your GM: he's meant to give some insight into the odds a guy has of giving you great value when you buy low. Anyone can give Subban 9M a year once he's won the Norris, but how many people would have locked him up for 5-6M a year for 10 years two summers before, when he might have been had for that deal. In Galchenyuk's case, I think he's also a near-lock to become a star player. If you offer him 8 years, 5-5.5M a year now, would he take that? It would be comparable to what the young guns in Edmonton were given, so it's not an unfair deal. And I think it would end up saving us money in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 But that's exactly the opposite of what a good GM should be doing. You don't want to pay out long term when a guy has already hit what you think is his peak. If Gallagher's already as good as he's going to get, you're paying for that value right now. If you think a guy like Subban or Galchenyuk or so on is only going to get better, you WANT to lock him up now before he hits that peak and demands more. There's a gamble in doing that, but that's why you're paying your GM: he's meant to give some insight into the odds a guy has of giving you great value when you buy low. Anyone can give Subban 9M a year once he's won the Norris, but how many people would have locked him up for 5-6M a year for 10 years two summers before, when he might have been had for that deal. In Galchenyuk's case, I think he's also a near-lock to become a star player. If you offer him 8 years, 5-5.5M a year now, would he take that? It would be comparable to what the young guns in Edmonton were given, so it's not an unfair deal. And I think it would end up saving us money in the long run. Chucky hasn't had the production those guys have had. I'm perfectly fine with a bridge deal. I'm okay with an 8 year deal but in chucky's case I don't even know where to start. You say 5 million, is Chucky okay with that? You think he doesn't know that in 2 years he could easily be making 11 million a year? I think I would do your 5 million, but where does it stop? 6? 7? Those would still save us money in the long run but given the risk, is it worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBIGGESTHABSFAN123 Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 The thing with Galchenyuk is that he's only 20. An 8 year deal would make him a UFA at 28 but a 2 year bridge deal plus an 8 year deal after would take him to 30. It's a different situation then Gallagher or Subban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Congrats on point 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramcharger440 Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 great game for brendan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 According to Louis Jean, no fine for Gallagher for diving... league judged it was not a dive in retrospect. Pretty much admitting the ref screwed us over with that call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 According to Louis Jean, no fine for Gallagher for diving... league judged it was not a dive in retrospect. Pretty much admitting the ref screwed us over with that call. That one was a brutal call & im glad they didnt fine him. Im the first to admit that Gallagher walks the line that would make me hate him if he were on another team but to call that a dive? Getting hit from behind from a much larger player? Whats next, if a guy drops his stick he's embellishing his ability to hold onto it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 According to Louis Jean, no fine for Gallagher for diving... league judged it was not a dive in retrospect. Pretty much admitting the ref screwed us over with that call. Just hypothetical,,,, game 7 against Nash. Gallagher (or another player) gets called for diving. Nash scores to win the game and the cup. Next day the league says it wasn't a dive. So,,,does that mean we get a freebie 2 min. PP in our next game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Just hypothetical,,,, game 7 against Nash. Gallagher (or another player) gets called for diving. Nash scores to win the game and the cup. Next day the league says it wasn't a dive. So,,,does that mean we get a freebie 2 min. PP in our next game? Well Justin Abdelkader just scored a winning goal for Detroit with a broken stick, which was illegal but apparently non-reviewable. If the league won't overturn that result, it definitely won't go back to overturn a Gallagher penalty. There were also a handful of games where the puck clearly hit the netting out of play right before a goal was scored, and those weren't overturned either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Well Justin Abdelkader just scored a winning goal for Detroit with a broken stick, which was illegal but apparently non-reviewable. If the league won't overturn that result, it definitely won't go back to overturn a Gallagher penalty. There were also a handful of games where the puck clearly hit the netting out of play right before a goal was scored, and those weren't overturned either. i was just being facetious, Ted, cuz I knew that the NHL doesn't admit wrongdoing. The NHL had better figure these things out before the POs. start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff33 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 http://www.tsn.ca/radio/montreal-690/fraser-subban-and-gallagher-need-falling-lessons-1.238438 "they need to fall properly" unbelievable. im gonna post this in subbans thread too. 1. i loved what nilan had to say , how about next time theres a call like that i go down there and whip you around by your face and you tell me if you "fall properly" 2. i think this is an absolute joke that this guy can openly talk about "a list" and "a perception". NO. no. you call the game how it happens. i absolutely despise this mentality. its right along the lines of "you cant call a penalty because theres only a minute left" and the "even up" call. no no and no. you call what happens at the moment, in reality, or you are cheating. period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 It'd be really nice if he can get to 25 goals before the end of the regular season. Really nice season for Brendan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 It'd be really nice if he can get to 25 goals before the end of the regular season. Really nice season for Brendan! Outstanding IMO and considering he can't catch a break most nights with the officials quite the achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColRouleBleu Posted March 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Outstanding IMO and considering he can't catch a break most nights with the officials quite the achievement. And, he certainly cant catch a break from the opposing 6'3" to 6'6" D men every night so outstanding indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Kessel 80GP, 24 goals, -34, $10M Gallagher 80GP, 24 goals, +21, $650.000 Kessel 80GP, 24 goals, -34, $10M Gallagher 80GP, 24 goals, +21, $650.000 Kessel 80GP, 24 goals, -34, $10M Gallagher 80GP, 24 goals, +21, $650.000 Phil Kessel 80GP, 24 goals, -34, 10 mil salary Gallagher 80 GP, 24 goals, +21, 650K salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habberwacky Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Are you saying A) Brendan should get 10 mil instead of the 3 or 4 he has signed for. B)Toronto mangement are _______ for signing this guy C) Phil Kessel is nowhere near as good as Gallagher, D) Bergevin made a great signing E) Gallagher may have gotten fleeced or F) All of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Are you saying A) Brendan should get 10 mil instead of the 3 or 4 he has signed for. B)Toronto mangement are _______ for signing this guy C) Phil Kessel is nowhere near as good as Gallagher, D) Bergevin made a great signing E) Gallagher may have gotten fleeced or F) All of the above I would probably go with option G: Phil Kessel is an incredibly talented player but one who needs a little 'finesse' when handling. He cannot carry a team himself and needs a good supporting cast (ie one that Toronto seems incapable to build) and therefore he will be traded to a team where he will most likely thrive and win a cup one day. Meanwhile, Gallagher isnt on the same playing-field, talent-wise, but he's still an great secondary player and, unlike Phil he needs no babying, no supporting cast, no massaging he just needs someone to keep his skates sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 I'm with jedi! I pick G too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckPundit Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 He's going to get bumped and tripped a lot, but his goals will be absolutely critical in this play-offs. Sadly, he's the only consistent net-crasher we've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Thank goodness Gallagher can take the physical stuff, 'cause he's going to get mugged ALL SERIES LONG against Ottawa. And if last night's officiating was anything to go by, he's not going to get many calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff33 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Thank goodness Gallagher can take the physical stuff, 'cause he's going to get mugged ALL SERIES LONG against Ottawa. And if last night's officiating was anything to go by, he's not going to get many calls. by last nights officiating you mean this entire season. its a joke. even HNIC leaf blowers were making comments on it, thats when you KNOW its serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 "Five on five we've been the better team. We're playing good hockey. We're doing everything we want to do." But... with the exception of Brendan... no other forwards are scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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