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#32 Travis Moen 2014-2015


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Not a lot of love anywhere for our old workhorse,everybody wants to see him gone,but he has taken on a lot on guys for this team,I don't like the disrespect we give our worn out players after they have given so much,alright he has been fairly well paid,but I wonder what his quality of life will be when he's old.

GO MO GO :(:( :( :(

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Not a lot of love anywhere for our old workhorse,everybody wants to see him gone,but he has taken on a lot on guys for this team,I don't like the disrespect we give our worn out players after they have given so much,alright he has been fairly well paid,but I wonder what his quality of life will be when he's old.

GO MO GO :(:( :( :(

He's a smart cat, I think he'll be fine post-hockey. As for the 'disrespect' thing... I get what you're saying but a lot has to do with the other players signed to the team. Its MB's fault he has 4 guys like Moen (all younger) and that puts a guy like Moen (who isnt ridiculously paid but certainly one of the higher ones, for what he brings, on the team) in a precarious position with regards to trade bait.

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He is one of the few guys that truly has pride in what he does, is humble and wears his heart on his sleeve. He isn't ever flashy but he sure is sound defensively and can create some havoc around the net. The problem is the fans love the big hits and the energy but how often do you see a guy go for, or make, a big hit but then is way out of position and it creates an odd man rush or a scoring chance (PK, I am looking at you). Trapper doesn't take these chances because he knows that there is a time and place for that. That may not win over fans in the "exciting player" category but this guy can be on my 3rd or 4th line any day. Not to mention the PK capability he brings. I think he is poorly used by MT....unfortunately.

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He is one of the few guys that truly has pride in what he does, is humble and wears his heart on his sleeve. He isn't ever flashy but he sure is sound defensively and can create some havoc around the net. The problem is the fans love the big hits and the energy but how often do you see a guy go for, or make, a big hit but then is way out of position and it creates an odd man rush or a scoring chance (PK, I am looking at you). Trapper doesn't take these chances because he knows that there is a time and place for that. That may not win over fans in the "exciting player" category but this guy can be on my 3rd or 4th line any day. Not to mention the PK capability he brings. I think he is poorly used by MT....unfortunately.

I think he's actually used more appropriately by MT than by Randy Cunneyworth or Jacques Martin, who both continually thrust him onto the 2nd and 3rd lines and asked him to produce some offence. Moen's game has been solid in general, but in much the way DD's game is uni-dimensionally offensive, Moen's is fairly uni-dimensional defensively. He doesn't hit enough, he doesn't provide any offence or skating ability, he can't take face-offs, and he rarely fights. As I've said before, a player like that really needs to be spot-on in that one element of his game he's good at, or he becomes completely replaceable by someone who gives more. In Subban's case, I'll take those big hits, knowing they sometimes result in chances against, because he creates an element of hesitation on the part of the winger coming down against him, and that likely decreases chances against in the long run, even if you can't witness those non-chances as clearly. I've seen it time and again that a player comes down the wing and simply lets the puck trickle into the corner behind Subban rather than seeing him trying to carry it past him. I'm not sure too many players are scared to play against Moen any more.

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I think he's actually used more appropriately by MT than by Randy Cunneyworth or Jacques Martin, who both continually thrust him onto the 2nd and 3rd lines and asked him to produce some offence. Moen's game has been solid in general, but in much the way DD's game is uni-dimensionally offensive, Moen's is fairly uni-dimensional defensively. He doesn't hit enough, he doesn't provide any offence or skating ability, he can't take face-offs, and he rarely fights. As I've said before, a player like that really needs to be spot-on in that one element of his game he's good at, or he becomes completely replaceable by someone who gives more. In Subban's case, I'll take those big hits, knowing they sometimes result in chances against, because he creates an element of hesitation on the part of the winger coming down against him, and that likely decreases chances against in the long run, even if you can't witness those non-chances as clearly. I've seen it time and again that a player comes down the wing and simply lets the puck trickle into the corner behind Subban rather than seeing him trying to carry it past him. I'm not sure too many players are scared to play against Moen any more.

I think this sums up Moen perfect. Unfortunatley, given his current skillset and price tag, I dont think we have room for him. If Moen is on you third line, your team is going nowhere because you have absolutly no depth.

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I think this sums up Moen perfect. Unfortunatley, given his current skillset and price tag, I dont think we have room for him. If Moen is on you third line, your team is going nowhere because you have absolutly no depth.

I feel the same way. I don't think Moen is good enough to be a 3rd liner on this team, especially if we have 3-4 centers who can create offence, since Moen playing with them effectively nullifies that line's offensive capability. So it leaves him as a 4th line player, and while I'm happy to keep Travis in that role, we have Prust, Malhotra, and Weise who all give us more versatility, in addition to possibly having to find room for a rookie in the line-up somewhere.

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I've always found he actually has pretty good hockey sense in the offensive zone, he just doesn't have the skill set to convert it into goals/points. He can still be pretty effective working the cycle; it's why he was sometimes a nice option to slot with Plekanec late in a game when we were protecting a league. It's easy to forget that before he got his concussion last year he was giving us some really good possession hockey, actually had the best Corsi on the team for most of that stretch. The unfortunate thing is, the wear and tear and concussions always mean he might not be at 100%.

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I've always found he actually has pretty good hockey sense in the offensive zone, he just doesn't have the skill set to convert it into goals/points. He can still be pretty effective working the cycle; it's why he was sometimes a nice option to slot with Plekanec late in a game when we were protecting a league. It's easy to forget that before he got his concussion last year he was giving us some really good possession hockey, actually had the best Corsi on the team for most of that stretch. The unfortunate thing is, the wear and tear and concussions always mean he might not be at 100%.

Wow, that's raising Pleki's jack of all trades role to a whole new level ;):lol:

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I like Moen but feel Therrien will have a tough time fitting him in this lineup. He is still an asset defensively, but his role as a fighter or hard hitter may be no longer there due to his concussions. We can fill his role with someone like Bowman and I can see a trade happenning before the start of the year. The competion to make this team is getting much tougher, which means we are continuing to improve. Moen still has another year on his contract too so he should be easy to move.

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I like Moen but feel Therrien will have a tough time fitting him in this lineup. He is still an asset defensively, but his role as a fighter or hard hitter may be no longer there due to his concussions. We can fill his role with someone like Bowman and I can see a trade happenning before the start of the year. The competion to make this team is getting much tougher, which means we are continuing to improve. Moen still has another year on his contract too so he should be easy to move.

I have no doubt that probably 10 - 15 teams would have interest in Moen. I think we have enough depth to let him go without regretting it once injuries happen. That said, the question is whether we can get value for him. You have to wonder if MB has the opportunity to package a few players & make this team better, vs. just dumping players for picks or long-shot prospects. Time will tell.

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I have no doubt that probably 10 - 15 teams would have interest in Moen. I think we have enough depth to let him go without regretting it once injuries happen. That said, the question is whether we can get value for him. You have to wonder if MB has the opportunity to package a few players & make this team better, vs. just dumping players for picks or long-shot prospects. Time will tell.

I'm not sure how much value Moen has now except to save his salary cap hit. I think this is a case of improving the team through subtraction with the possibility of younger players getting a shot throughout the season. If we're not going to use Moen I don't want to take the chance of having a disgruntled player hanging around.

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Moen will have value when 2, 3, 4 players are out with injuries, flu, bereavement leave, first child delivery, etc.

I seem to recall in the 2013 play-offs the Habs being down six (6) starters .... yeah, stuff happens. The Habs don't need to free up the cap space at the moment, and trading Moen now doesn't get anything useful for the Habs now (low future draft pick(s)). If the Molson's are OK "not saving the money" and Moen is OK platooning, then I only see upside in having him about. He's responsible at both ends of the rink, good on the PK, he's also the kind of player that can keep the likes of Prust (or Wiese) on their toes. Prust slacks off for a couple of games, Moen slides in and Prust sits (and gets the message).

All good, as long as Moen is OK with this role. I expect he would be OK enough.

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I would, honestly, rather keep him (right now!). If we're going to end up taking salary back in any deal for Moen, then what's the point? Someone will be injured soon enough and THEN we can call-up youngsters from Hamilton for some NHL action. Moen has been a very dependable bottom six forward for us. I'm not sure why we want to deal him away so badly.

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I think at this point you trade him only if you can package him for something substantial OR if you're trying to free up salary for some other move.

^ this dude is super smart!

Bob Mckenzie said that they are making him available. I still think its only worth doing to free up space for someone else though... but that's just me... and this guy ;)

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this guy should be sent to Hamilton too

He should have been the first one to be sent down, if we felt it necessary to send anyone. That being said, demoting players doesn't really save us money, and I don't see Bowman as being an upgrade on Bourque nor Moen, so we were probably better off just keeping our line-up intact. I'd be all for trading Moen, but I'm nor sure demoting him helps much.

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He should have been the first one to be sent down, if we felt it necessary to send anyone. That being said, demoting players doesn't really save us money, and I don't see Bowman as being an upgrade on Bourque nor Moen, so we were probably better off just keeping our line-up intact. I'd be all for trading Moen, but I'm nor sure demoting him helps much.

I wonder if a team would have picked Moen up off waivers? His contract is much better than Bourque's

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