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#22 Dale Weise 2014-2015


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It could be that many of us considered Dale as a permanent fixture for the 4th line right-wing... barring injury of course. But after one game he was replaced by Travis Moen. I have nothing against Moen in particular other than the fact he is a natural left-winger. In fact if I'm not wrong Weise did have success last play-offs playing 3rd line with Bourque and Eller. With the addition of PAP and Sekac, Dale was bumped down a notch or two I guess.

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It could be that many of us considered Dale as a permanent fixture for the 4th line right-wing... barring injury of course. But after one game he was replaced by Travis Moen. I have nothing against Moen in particular other than the fact he is a natural left-winger. In fact if I'm not wrong Weise did have success last play-offs playing 3rd line with Bourque and Eller. With the addition of PAP and Sekac, Dale was bumped down a notch or two I guess.

not to take it too far off topic but in Moens case: If you want to trade him you have to show him off and play him.

Dale will work his way in to the line up in due time. I can see MT keeping the rookies on a somewhat short leash. If things start to go south fast he will bring in the vets.

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not to take it too far off topic but in Moens case: If you want to trade him you have to show him off and play him.

Dale will work his way in to the line up in due time. I can see MT keeping the rookies on a somewhat short leash. If things start to go south fast he will bring in the vets.

Yes, I expect this has more to do with the 'switch' than anything else. This season game tapes matter more than last season game tapes. Weise will be back in soon enough, whether or not any team bites on Moen.

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Yes, I expect this has more to do with the 'switch' than anything else. This season game tapes matter more than last season game tapes. Weise will be back in soon enough, whether or not any team bites on Moen.

So does Brandon Prust draw out as well... or is he the 4th line defacto left-wing?

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So does Brandon Prust draw out as well... or is he the 4th line defacto left-wing?

Yeah, I'm not sure. I have a hunch that there is a measure of Therrien wanting to retain one or two guys in the line-up for now, that can step in and fight / defend the team's core (and generally small) players in this early part of the season ... not have any instances being broadcast around the league that teams can take liberties with the Habs' stars and young-uns. Tinordi's not going to dress much until injuries/flu's, and the remainder of Therrien's defense corps are 'skaters, not haters'. Same with forward lines 1 through 3. That leaves the 4th line.

In exhibition season, we saw Ottawa (Neil and his buddies) having a go at some of the Habs' better players (Patches, Pleks, Galchenyuk, Subban). I'm hunching the Hab braintrust aren't keen on more of that. They don't want their players that are going to be relied on winning games being intimidated.

We may not see Bournival switching in for a short while. Maybe we'll see him against the Avalanche or Red Wings (games 6 and 7, both at home). That's my take. My hope too; I like watching him -- love his skating. Bournival in for Prust at that point would be my guess.

The Habs' 4th line to this early stage (2 games), has not hurt them at all. They are even on plus-minus, and Malhotra has been doing his face-off wizadry stuff. As we know, the task for the 4th line is not to win the team games; it's other things, including not losing the team games.

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I think it is mostly to about getting the boys some ice time at the moment and agree Bournival may have to wait a little longer but I think he and Weise are best suited for moving up to the third if needed. It is nice to see we have a pretty balanced attack do not take much of a step back with any of these guys filling in. Moen may be starting to show short comings but he still has a wealth of experience to draw from and the way Prust plays he may need a night off in a bit.

This is a very nice problem, but not for the boys in Hamilton as this line-up looks like it is getting a lot harder to crack. When we can roll the four lines we have now we are going to be hard to play against and the D is not too bad either.

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Yeah, I'm not sure. I have a hunch that there is a measure of Therrien wanting to retain one or two guys in the line-up for now, that can step in and fight / defend the team's core (and generally small) players in this early part of the season ... not have any instances being broadcast around the league that teams can take liberties with the Habs' stars and young-uns. Tinordi's not going to dress much until injuries/flu's, and the remainder of Therrien's defense corps are 'skaters, not haters'. Same with forward lines 1 through 3. That leaves the 4th line.

In exhibition season, we saw Ottawa (Neil and his buddies) having a go at some of the Habs' better players (Patches, Pleks, Galchenyuk, Subban). I'm hunching the Hab braintrust aren't keen on more of that. They don't want their players that are going to be relied on winning games being intimidated.

We may not see Bournival switching in for a short while. Maybe we'll see him against the Avalanche or Red Wings (games 6 and 7, both at home). That's my take. My hope too; I like watching him -- love his skating. Bournival in for Prust at that point would be my guess.

The Habs' 4th line to this early stage (2 games), has not hurt them at all. They are even on plus-minus, and Malhotra has been doing his face-off wizadry stuff. As we know, the task for the 4th line is not to win the team games; it's other things, including not losing the team games.

So there is most likely more behind dressing Travis than Weise (even though I would hope as a big boy himself he could play that role) as you suggest.

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Two best Hab players against Boston on 2014-11-13, in 5-1 win: Weise (Gordie Howe hat-trick, in maybe NHL record limited TOI) and Emelin (8 hits, at least 4 of which were big-time, another couple of just misses, which can often be just as bad for the opposing player's psyche).

Now, just exactly who killed who, Lucy?

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^ we need more of this. Keep doing this and the other teams will not try anything .

That was awesome! Campbell basically jumped Weise and Weise dropped him with his first punch. :)

And an honourable mention goes to Bo for his knockout punch as well. Was it Fraser or Miller who he fought Tuesday night?

My favorite fight to date was Prust. When he was jumped and while on his back took 2 sucker punches to the face, only to get up and win the fight. How many more advantages do you need, seriously?

Even Tinordi isn't afraid to drop them. Bruins aren't as quick to manhandle us as they did in the past. Back when we had Gio, MAB, Gomez, Pyatt, etc... Boston use to take advantage of our small stature and turn it into a goonfest anytime they needed a boost to win a game.

We can finally stand up to the toughest teams in the league.

And that's what made our 70's habs such a success. Not only did we have the skill to beat any team in the league, we had some really tough players, Bouchard, Robinson, big M, Savard, Lapointe,etc... During the 75-76 season the flyers were winning games through intimidation. They also had skill, with Clarke and Co, but Dave "the hammer" Schultz, who was essentially Bobby Clarke's bodyguard, was a feared enforcer. That is, until Robinson destroyed him. Then he lost his reputation as a top enforcer and his career slowly fizzled away. Believe the flyers traded him the very next season and he only survived a season or 2 after his Philly days.

Habs have always been a skilled team, but they weren't a small team who was easily pushed around, they could match any team with skill and punches, when the game went in that direction.

Prust to me, reminds me a bit of Chris Nilan. Nilan had a bit more offensive upside to his game, believed he scored close to 30 goals one season, but both weren't one dimensional players. If they aren't/weren't fighting, they helped the team in other ways.

And Weise is showing that he can be placed anywhere in the lineup, use his speed, grit and drive to help his linemates and can also throw punches with the best of them.

Nice. :)

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That was awesome! Campbell basically jumped Weise and Weise dropped him with his first punch. :)

And an honourable mention goes to Bo for his knockout punch as well. Was it Fraser or Miller who he fought Tuesday night?

My favorite fight to date was Prust. When he was jumped and while on his back took 2 sucker punches to the face, only to get up and win the fight. How many more advantages do you need, seriously?

Even Tinordi isn't afraid to drop them. Bruins aren't as quick to manhandle us as they did in the past. Back when we had Gio, MAB, Gomez, Pyatt, etc... Boston use to take advantage of our small stature and turn it into a goonfest anytime they needed a boost to win a game.

We can finally stand up to the toughest teams in the league.

Amen to that! B) . Weise is no goon, even though Vancouver tried to use him as one. When he came to Montreal, this team finally gave him the chance to play to his skills. However, if need be, he can put up a good fight as well :P .

I also believe teams are moving away from the enforcer modus from this season onwards. There is going to be less deliberate on-ice intimidation unless it's one of those heated rivalry matchups.

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I know it's not going to keep up at this pace, but I absolutely love his game recently. Overall, not just the goals. He's passing, he's skating. He's real smart out there. When the points slow down, here's hoping the quality play can stay.

He's got much better skills than his history suggests. Makes you wonder whether we had a genius scout that saw his potential when he was being sparingly used in vancouver - or if we just got lucky.

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He's got much better skills than his history suggests. Makes you wonder whether we had a genius scout that saw his potential when he was being sparingly used in vancouver - or if we just got lucky.

This,,, almost a "power forward" :lol::lol:

Lucy,, 19GP, 3G,, 7A, +3
Dale,,,16GP, 3G, 5A, +4
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That was awesome! Campbell basically jumped Weise and Weise dropped him with his first punch. :)

And an honourable mention goes to Bo for his knockout punch as well. Was it Fraser or Miller who he fought Tuesday night?

My favorite fight to date was Prust. When he was jumped and while on his back took 2 sucker punches to the face, only to get up and win the fight. How many more advantages do you need, seriously?

Even Tinordi isn't afraid to drop them. Bruins aren't as quick to manhandle us as they did in the past. Back when we had Gio, MAB, Gomez, Pyatt, etc... Boston use to take advantage of our small stature and turn it into a goonfest anytime they needed a boost to win a game.

We can finally stand up to the toughest teams in the league.

And that's what made our 70's habs such a success. Not only did we have the skill to beat any team in the league, we had some really tough players, Bouchard, Robinson, big M, Savard, Lapointe,etc... During the 75-76 season the flyers were winning games through intimidation. They also had skill, with Clarke and Co, but Dave "the hammer" Schultz, who was essentially Bobby Clarke's bodyguard, was a feared enforcer. That is, until Robinson destroyed him. Then he lost his reputation as a top enforcer and his career slowly fizzled away. Believe the flyers traded him the very next season and he only survived a season or 2 after his Philly days.

Habs have always been a skilled team, but they weren't a small team who was easily pushed around, they could match any team with skill and punches, when the game went in that direction.

Prust to me, reminds me a bit of Chris Nilan. Nilan had a bit more offensive upside to his game, believed he scored close to 30 goals one season, but both weren't one dimensional players. If they aren't/weren't fighting, they helped the team in other ways.

And Weise is showing that he can be placed anywhere in the lineup, use his speed, grit and drive to help his linemates and can also throw punches with the best of them.

Nice. :)

the next day i listened to tsn690 and marinaro was on with the boston analysts from over there

their analysis of the fight was that weise sucker punched the innocent mr campbell who was only skating aggressively towards him to congratulate him on a wonderful body check laid, fair play, and dale sucker punched him!! and as soon as campbell was ready to fight again, weise ran behind the referee!! what a cowardly typical montrealer.

i have to say objectively that being from a town (toronto) where homerism is pretty strong.....i might stop myself here and suggest this is something deeper than homerism. boston tv and radio personalities are by far the most delusional homers out there, its a spin even beyond being biased. its like revisionist history. this is not an uninformed opinion, ive been watching the habs on centre ice for the last 2 years, any hab road game in that time i saw from the other teams local broadcast. it might only be with us, out of hatred, but its like listening to a 6 year old tattling on his older brother.

anyway loved what weise did, he set the tone so so well. dont even think about taking a liberty. that game by him and by the team has set a tone for us going forward. we are not going to be bullied this year

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the next day i listened to tsn690 and marinaro was on with the boston analysts from over there

their analysis of the fight was that weise sucker punched the innocent mr campbell who was only skating aggressively towards him to congratulate him on a wonderful body check laid, fair play, and dale sucker punched him!! and as soon as campbell was ready to fight again, weise ran behind the referee!! what a cowardly typical montrealer.

i have to say objectively that being from a town (toronto) where homerism is pretty strong.....i might stop myself here and suggest this is something deeper than homerism. boston tv and radio personalities are by far the most delusional homers out there, its a spin even beyond being biased. its like revisionist history. this is not an uninformed opinion, ive been watching the habs on centre ice for the last 2 years, any hab road game in that time i saw from the other teams local broadcast. it might only be with us, out of hatred, but its like listening to a 6 year old tattling on his older brother.

anyway loved what weise did, he set the tone so so well. dont even think about taking a liberty. that game by him and by the team has set a tone for us going forward. we are not going to be bullied this year

lol yeah the Boston media are a bunch of insufferable whiners and hypocrites. I'm sure it has a great deal of influence on the ignorance and double-standards held by the general fanbase down there. Thankfully, mute buttons exist.

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lol for tv absolutely. to hear marinaro make these guys sound like fools, its the best time you will have listening to a radio in your life. highly recommended ;)

Thank goodness for the TuneIn app, I can listen from Alberta!

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